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Vytorin not the real rival to Lipitor, but Hoodia and Sanofi diet pills

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Archimedes Plutonium - 23 Nov 2004 18:45 GMT
Vioxx disaster is shining light of the ills of drug company pills. They
are after the easy money rather than the health of the world public. We
saw it in Vioxx and we see it still in Celebrex and Bextra.

But we should see it now in cholesterol pills. What good are they? Is it
better to take Lipitor or Vytorin when all they do is lower a percentage
of cholesterol when the real problem is obesity and overweight? Should
not the doctor prescribe that the patient lose weight to where they are
between 130 and 140 lbs rather than prescribe some cholesterol drug.

Is not cholesterol pills just a band-aid for the real problem of
overweight and wrongful diet.

There is a natural plant cactus when eaten a person loses appetite for
an entire day. As a scientist, if a cactus chemistry can be an effective
diet drug then some other more common plant extract should do the same
thing as the cactus of Hoodia. Perhaps horseradish sauce so that if
eaten a tablespoon in the morning then no desire for any food for the
rest of the day.

But my main message is that Vioxx like Lipitor like Vytorin are they
really needed by human society? I say no. I say they are just merely
costly diversions. Lipitor alone costs humanity over 10 billion dollars
a year and it does nothing to lose weight from people. The real answer
is a pill that gets people's weight into the 130 to 140 lbs weight range
for men and for women I do not know their ideal range.

So once you get weight into the ideal range then cholesterol pills are
nonsense.

It troubles me to see the Health dept of the USA govt promoting
cholesterol drugs when they should be promoting diet drugs that really
work. Because with a diet drug that really works you do not need
cholesterol drugs.

It troubles me to see people go into doctors office and frequently come
out with a cholesterol prescription when it really does not solve their
problem which is overweight and bad eating habits.

I do not suppose anyone has isolated the active ingredients of Hoodia
and made a search for a common plant that has the same effectiveness. I
would think that Horseradish may have that common effect.

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Archimedes Plutonium - 23 Nov 2004 18:56 GMT
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> There is a natural plant cactus when eaten a person loses appetite for
> an entire day. As a scientist, if a cactus chemistry can be an effective
> diet drug then some other more common plant extract should do the same
> thing as the cactus of Hoodia. Perhaps horseradish sauce so that if
> eaten a tablespoon in the morning then no desire for any food for the
> rest of the day.

(snipped)

> I do not suppose anyone has isolated the active ingredients of Hoodia
> and made a search for a common plant that has the same effectiveness. I
> would think that Horseradish may have that common effect.

I am guessing that the Hoodia cactus is acidic in content but that
horseradish is alkali in content, so that the active diet ingredient of
Hoodia is not to be found in horseradish.

Perhaps the Hoodia chemistry is found in the skins of grapefruit. For I
have noticed that after eating the skins and white peel of grapefruit that
my appetite for anything else falls off remarkably.

Just a wild guess.....

Archimedes Plutonium
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Archimedes Plutonium - 23 Nov 2004 19:57 GMT
> I am guessing that the Hoodia cactus is acidic in content but that
> horseradish is alkali in content, so that the active diet ingredient of
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>
> Just a wild guess.....

I am running an experiment today, starting today. I do not have Hoodia
available. But I do have available organic grapefruit. Not the regular
grapefruit found in grocery stores because they have chemical spray and
beeswax coatings and other coatings.

So use only organically grown grapefruit and organically grown lemons. They
are expensive but for the purpose they are cheap. You need buy only one
organic grapefruit and one organic lemon, because the peel is what suppresses
the appetite to eat.

Today I cut a peel or rind from a grapefruit the size of my thumb. I chewed
and chewed until my mouth and throat had a burning sensation and then I spit
out the chew. End result, I am no longer hungry to eat either breakfast or
lunch.

I will wait to see by the end of the day whether this thumb sized chew of
grapefruit rind had suppressed my appetite for the entire day and not just a
meal.

If it did, then I must seek an organic lemon and try it out.

I am guessing that some astringent chemical in grapefruit rind is comparable
to Hoodia cactus appetite suppression.

I am assuming that grapefruit and lemon rind are edible even though they are
astringent for I see them sometimes prepared in candies and jams.

Until later tonight to see if the grapefruit peel or rind has been effective
for the entire day.

Archimedes Plutonium
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