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Antibiotics for Sinusitis?

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MS - 20 Nov 2004 23:34 GMT
Curious if there are any new ones, that work particularly well for
sinusitis.

I used to be on antibiotics for chronic sinusitis a good part of the year,
so I know all the ones that were prescribed as of a few years ago.

Since my last sinus surgery in 2002, I have not had as many infections, and
have not taken antibiotics much at all. At this moment I cannot remember
when the last time was.

However, lately I have been sick for a couple of months, worse than my usual
rhinosinusitis, and I think I might indeed have a bacterial infection. I see
my general practitioner on Monday for a follow-up to a general physical, to
check up on results to recent blood tests, not at all related to sinusitis.
However, I intend to tell him about it, and ask about the possibility of
getting an antibiotic.

Therefore, I would like to know if there are any new ones that work
especially well for the condition, to suggest to him. Of course, he might
not take my suggestion, and he might not want to prescribe an antibiotic at
all, as doctors are very reluctant about them these days, with all the
publicity about antibiotic resistance. It wouldn't hurt for me to mention
any names of them, though, ones that I have taken before and sometimes
worked well for me without bad side effects, or new ones I have read about.

Therefore, if there is anything new in this area, I would be interested in
hearing about it.

(Also, with the general reluctance about antibiotics these days, I think
they are usually not prescribed for more than ten days at a time, especially
by a GP. I think chronic sinusitis often takes longer to completely clear up
the infection, no? And isn't it true that if the antibiotic is not taken
long enough to clear up the infection, that could increase antibiotic
resistance?)
Karen Kording - 21 Nov 2004 01:55 GMT
Have you ever been on Zithromax (a Z Pack)?

> Curious if there are any new ones, that work particularly well for
> sinusitis.
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> long enough to clear up the infection, that could increase antibiotic
> resistance?)
MS - 21 Nov 2004 03:50 GMT
Yes, I have. Overrated (overmarketed), IMHO. They think that the "Pack" will
appeal to people, and once per day dosing.

I think Biaxin, which I think is from the same family, worked better for me.
Twice per day dosing is fine for me. The antibiotics that require 4 or 5
times per day, now that's a hassle to remember when to take. Twice per day
is no problem for me.

Also, they usually only prescribe Zithromax in a 5 day pack, because
supposedly 5 days of it is as good as 10 days of other types. I'm not sure
if that's really true though. And five days is certainly very short for
chronic sinusitis, with any antibiotic.

It's not new, in any case. Zithromax has been out for several years at
least.

> Have you ever been on Zithromax (a Z Pack)?
>
[quoted text clipped - 41 lines]
> > long enough to clear up the infection, that could increase antibiotic
> > resistance?)
Pell Nilly - 03 Dec 2004 04:51 GMT
> Yes, I have. Overrated (overmarketed), IMHO. They think that the "Pack" will
> appeal to people, and once per day dosing.
[quoted text clipped - 62 lines]
> > > long enough to clear up the infection, that could increase antibiotic
> > > resistance?)

Zithromax is not indicated for sinusitis. Biaxin is. (You can find
this info online if you look for prescribing info for the specific
med.) The doctor who just put me on Biaxin for 14 days said exactly
what you've indicated, that I might not be totally over the infection
in that time, and that I should call her for a refill if it doesn't
feel completely gone. I don't know how to tell, but in any case, I
think I'll go for her refill.
CanDo - 21 Nov 2004 15:58 GMT
After suffering with multiple sinus infections, year after year, for
decades, I experimented with flooding my nasal passages with a mixture of
diluted 3% hydrogen peroxide, baking soda and kosher salt. In order to flood
my nasal passages and keep them flooded, I keep my forehead pointed
downward. I keep my forehead down for quite a while, hoping that the
anti-infective mixture can get to the infected area(s) within my sinuses and
nasal passages.
.
It works! I have been sinus infection free for about 3 years. I think that I
had chronic infection problems with my turbinates, so flooding my nasal
passages with the anti-infective mixture worked very well, for me, since the
infected areas were fairly easy to reach.
.
I have fully documented my experience and how I did it at Healthboards.com.
There are posts there by people who have tried my "upside down sinus
flooding" and have received either partial relief or total relief. There are
also posts there from those who it hasn't helped, and by those who don't
think that it is a good idea. I have no connection at all with Healthboards.
I use it because I consider it to be the best facility for discussing health
problems on the Internet.
.
To find out more, select one of the following links:
.
Here is the link to the detailed documentation of the "Upside Down Sinus
Flooding" and also discussion:
.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=139765
.
.
Here is the link to discussion about the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding" in the
Allergy Board:
.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=129210
.
Here is the link to discussion about the "Upside Down Sinus Flooding" in the
Colds/Flu Board:
.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=124803
.
.
"If you save one life, it is as though you save the world"
Steven Litvintchouk - 21 Nov 2004 21:50 GMT
> Curious if there are any new ones, that work particularly well for
> sinusitis.

These are claimed to work well for sinusitis:

Ketek (telithromycin)
(Despite its name, it's a brand new class--ketolide, not a macrolide
like Biaxin)

Avelox (moxifloxacin)
(Another one in the fluoroquinolone family)

> (Also, with the general reluctance about antibiotics these days, I think
> they are usually not prescribed for more than ten days at a time, especially
> by a GP. I think chronic sinusitis often takes longer to completely clear up
> the infection, no? And isn't it true that if the antibiotic is not taken
> long enough to clear up the infection, that could increase antibiotic
> resistance?)

Correct on all counts.
For chronic sinusitis, a minimum of 3 weeks of antibiotics.  Often much
longer.

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MS - 22 Nov 2004 02:40 GMT
Thanks for the info, Steve.

I think I took Avelox before, a few years ago.  I don't recall how well it
worked.

Never took Ketek. Anyone here who has, or physicians who have prescribed it?
How effective has it been for chronic sinusitis?

> > Curious if there are any new ones, that work particularly well for
> > sinusitis.
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> For chronic sinusitis, a minimum of 3 weeks of antibiotics.  Often much
> longer.
tollertwins - 03 Dec 2004 22:51 GMT
Took avelox for about a month. Cleared up the sinuses - but left me
with gastritis that took 6 months to clear up after that!
MS - 22 Nov 2004 02:54 GMT
> Ketek (telithromycin)
> (Despite its name, it's a brand new class--ketolide, not a macrolide
> like Biaxin)
>
> Avelox (moxifloxacin)
> (Another one in the fluoroquinolone family)

> Correct on all counts.
> For chronic sinusitis, a minimum of 3 weeks of antibiotics.  Often much
> longer.

Interesting--in looking up both of the above antibiotics, the recommended
dosage given for both is once per day for five days. I think many are trying
to copy the Z-pack dosage, thinking that patients find that convienent, and
come in "packs" of five tablets, etc. As you point out, chronic sinusitis is
supposed to have a much longer dosing regimen--but I'm not sure that
everyone (including docs) is aware of that.
Steven Litvintchouk - 22 Nov 2004 20:08 GMT
>>Ketek (telithromycin)
>>(Despite its name, it's a brand new class--ketolide, not a macrolide
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Interesting--in looking up both of the above antibiotics, the recommended
> dosage given for both is once per day for five days.

That's probably the recommended dosage for "acute maxillary sinusitis."

AFAIK, there is no FDA-approved dosage for chronic sinusitis, for any
antibiotic.

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MS - 23 Nov 2004 05:41 GMT
> AFAIK, there is no FDA-approved dosage for chronic sinusitis, for any
> antibiotic.

Probably true, but many docs don't know about the long courses for chronic
sinusitis. With the meds that come in the five pill "pacs", they will most
likely prescribe one such "pac".

Anyhow--I saw the doc today, and he prescribed Cefzil, 500 mg, twice per
day. I don't recall if I have ever taken that one before. When I used to be
on antibiotics frequently for frequent prolonged infections, those I was on
the most were Biaxin (clarithromycin), the various flouroquinolones, and a
few times Augmentin (amoxicillin-clavunate). I might have been prescribed
Cefzil sometime before, but I don't recall it.

Have others (both patients and prescribers) found that to be a very
effective one for chronic sinusitis?

He prescribed it for two weeks, but with one refill, so it will be possible
to take for a month if necessary.
 
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