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outrider@despammed.com - 18 Nov 2004 21:33 GMT
Wonder why department

http://www.suntimes.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi

"To date, the FDA has not given us any indication of a major concern
regarding Crestor," said {AstraZeneca}."

"I would argue that the FDA as currently configured is incapable of
protecting America against another Vioxx," said David Graham, who
warned that the arthritis drug had been linked to an increased risk of
heart attack and stroke."

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/double_standards_on_drugs.php

Double Standards On Drugs
Stephen Pizzo
November 16, 2004

The FDA just issued a warning  on RU-486-the drug used to cause
medical abortions-after two women died from secondary infections
after taking the pill to end their pregnancies. But the FDA waited
until about 27,000 people had died from heart attacks and strokes while
taking arthritis drug Vioxx before pulling that drug. Why the
discrepancy? Stephen Pizzo finds that it has a lot to do with whose
campaign benefits from pharmaceutical profits.

-----snip-------

Compare that FDA response to its handling of Merck's hot-selling
arthritis pill, Vioxx. Warnings on that pill have been flooding in from
around the world for more than two years-warnings the FDA ignored.
The pill worked fine at alleviating pain-especially for the estimated
27,000 users it killed. It seems Vioxx had some nasty side affects:
heart attacks and strokes.
Jim Chinnis - 18 Nov 2004 22:32 GMT
outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:

>Double Standards On Drugs
>Stephen Pizzo
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>27,000 users it killed. It seems Vioxx had some nasty side affects:
>heart attacks and strokes.

These statements are inconsistent: "But the FDA waited until about 27,000
people had died from heart attacks and strokes while taking arthritis drug
Vioxx" AND "The pill worked fine at alleviating pain-especially for the
estimated 27,000 users it killed."

To what does the 27,000 number refer?
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 01:25 GMT
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> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu

I think the writer is being sarcastic. Disgusted, sarcastic and very
angry; as we all should be. The regulatory body mandated to protect us
is instead protecting corporate interests; in this case, pharma.

Twenty-seven thousand was the estimated number of Vioxx users who died
of heart attack or stroke caused by this drug (marketed with negative
information withheld) while the FDA looked the other way: profit before
healthcare. And in the allegations of the writer, profit for Bush.

However, in the congress hearings today, and the NY Times articles on
same, the number of deaths is estimated to be much higher. This numbers
are given by FDA whistleblower Graham:

"I would argue the FDA as currently configured is incapable of
protecting America against another Vioxx. We are virtually
defenseless,'' said Graham, associate director for science in the FDA's
Office of Drug Safety.

Graham estimated Vioxx had caused between 88,000 and 139,000 excess
cases of heart attack and stroke.

Graham said he felt pressured by supervisors to water down his
findings, from a study of patient insurance records, that Vioxx users
had a 50 percent greater chance of heart attack and sudden cardiac
death than people who took Pfizer Inc.'srival Celebrex.

Graham named five medicines currently on the market that he believes
need closer scrutiny for safety: Abbott Laboratories Inc.'s (ABT.N)
weight-loss drug Meridia, AstraZeneca Plc's (AZN.L)
cholesterol-lowering drug Crestor, Pfizer Inc.'s (PFE.N) painkiller
Bextra, Roche's (ROG.VX) acne drug Accutane, and GlaxoSmithKline Plc's
(GSK.L) asthma drug Serevent."

Zee
John S. Dyson - 19 Nov 2004 06:28 GMT
>> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
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> information withheld) while the FDA looked the other way: profit before
> healthcare. And in the allegations of the writer, profit for Bush.

Remember, the process to deceive started during Clinton (akin to the
plans for the Al Queda attacks and the severe weakening of the CIA
during BJ Clinton.)

It is becoming a rather common pattern:  Blame Bush for Clinton's misbehavior
and mistakes.  If the left could get by with it, they'd blame Bush for
BJ's screwing around with the young woman, Monica, with whom he claimed
that he didn't have 'sex'...  Well, I guess that it is fairly obvious that
the incredibly dishonest left had been trying to spin the facts so that
history might claim that it was Ken Starr's fault that BJ Clinton messed
around with the young girl...

Spinning the facts so that it was claimed to be the GOPs fault
that excuse BJ Clinton perpetual lies about his own behavior (including an
illegally dishonest statement in a deposition that led to BJ's disbarment)
doesn't change the fact that the Demoncrats have been fairly successful
at convincing their idiot leftist Dembulb constituency that BJ Clinton's
misbehavior is almost always someone else's fault.

Frankly, the personally pathetic lefties should just blame their problems
against God, because it is fairly clear that he has indeed taken
sides -- but not really for advocating the left or right, but to simply
direct us all away from the typical leftist behaviors by using the left
itself as absurd examples of 'modest' dishonesty that eventually lead
to the disgusting evil and total lack of integrity that manifests as
the larger Democrat party (similar to demonic infiltration or infiltration
of spies into specific portions of free society.)

John
Jim Chinnis - 19 Nov 2004 16:59 GMT
outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:

>> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
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>Zee

When discussing the relative risks and benefits of a drug, it isn't ethical or
useful or effective to twist the data to support a view, even if one is
serving a "higher truth." That approach is the heart of much poetry and art,
but doesn't belong here.

The evidence against Merck, the FDA, and Vioxx is crystal clear. It is
weakened by misrepresentations of *any* kind.

(Not speaking of YOUR words--just what you quoted...)
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 19:44 GMT
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> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu

Well you've made it clear it's not me who "twisted the data".

But who did in your opinion? Graham, the FDA whistleblower?

And which data exactly are you referring to?

The case is incontrovertible Jim and to split hairs minimizes this
serious and dangerous practise which has gone on far too long, amid
scorn and ridicule of those who would draw attention to same.
Zee
Jim Chinnis - 19 Nov 2004 21:25 GMT
outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:

>> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
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>But who did in your opinion? Graham, the FDA whistleblower?

Pizzo, the journalist.

>And which data exactly are you referring to?

"27,000." Add in the reference to FDA pulling the drug, as another poster
pointed out. Sloppy journalism concerning an important topic.

>The case is incontrovertible Jim and to split hairs minimizes this
>serious and dangerous practise which has gone on far too long, amid
>scorn and ridicule of those who would draw attention to same.
>Zee
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 23:38 GMT
> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
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> "27,000." Add in the reference to FDA pulling the drug, as another poster
> pointed out. Sloppy journalism concerning an important topic.

The "27,000" was the correct figure the day the article was written and
when I posted. When the congressional hearings made ink the new figure
emerged.

The FDA didn't pull the drug. Yes. They should have. That they didn't
is the POINT of all these stories and will be the POINT of the families
of the dead.

Is the topic important enough for you to have an opinion on whether or
not the FDA carried out its mandate Jim? On whether or not science is
not being practised and regulated as it should be? And if that should
be changed, how do you think it should?

Or are you only interested in extemporaneous editing and hit-and-run
commentary.

Zee
Jim Chinnis - 20 Nov 2004 01:07 GMT
outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:

>The "27,000" was the correct figure the day the article was written and
>when I posted. When the congressional hearings made ink the new figure
>emerged.

The correct figure for which: the number of people who died of heart attacks
or whatever while taking Vioxx, or the number that Vioxx killed? They
certainly aren't the same!

>The FDA didn't pull the drug. Yes. They should have. That they didn't
>is the POINT of all these stories and will be the POINT of the families
>of the dead.

It's NOT the point of the story by Pizzo. According to him, the FDA DID pull
the drug!

>Is the topic important enough for you to have an opinion on whether or
>not the FDA carried out its mandate Jim? On whether or not science is
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>Or are you only interested in extemporaneous editing and hit-and-run
>commentary.

I'm interested in the whole lot.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 22:45 GMT
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> >Zee

After reading though today's analysis of this issue Jim I have some
other comments to make, in regards to your post...

> When discussing the relative risks and benefits of a drug, it isn't ethical or
> useful or effective to twist the data to support a view,  even if one
is
> serving a "higher truth." That approach is the heart of much poetry and art,
> but doesn't belong here.

While I do not defend the hyperbole of a second-rate e-zine writer, I
hardly think that's the issue here.

When you speak of twisting data Jim you are of course referring to how
Merck has forgone usefullness, effectiveness, not to mention ethics, to
twist the data on Vioxx?

Still defending the stained grail of science?

It is science that is shrouded in shame here today, Jim. Not the arts.

Zee

> The evidence against Merck, the FDA, and Vioxx is crystal clear. It is
> weakened by misrepresentations of *any* kind.
>
> (Not speaking of YOUR words--just what you quoted...)

As an afterthought Jim, and 'after' reading through today's stories on
this issue: it is not the arts that has twisted data here Jim. It is
science that is shrouded in shame.
> --
> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
Jim Chinnis - 20 Nov 2004 00:57 GMT
outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:

>While I do not defend the hyperbole of a second-rate e-zine writer, I
>hardly think that's the issue here.
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>
>Zee

There's nothing shameful when an artist uses distortion and artifice to reveal
a higher truth. It is a mistake for someone to attempt to use science that
way, whether that person be a scientist or a journalist.

Science isn't stained by the distortions that businesses like Merck have
engaged in. Neither is it stained by the twists that journalists use in their
pursuit of higher truths or--maybe--just bigger sales figures.

I think Merck and other companies that have twisted or obscured the science
and thus sacrificed the public health in order to save their wallets are
guilty, guilty, guilty. I only ask that their critics be very careful in what
they say about the science and data. Making obvious errors and making obvious
misstatements that make Merck and company look bad has the reverse effect in
many cases.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 20 Nov 2004 01:46 GMT
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> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu

Obvious errors and making obvious misstatements: that's not what
happened here as I pointed out.

And it's my understanding from people who've worked with Health Canada
that these regulatory bodies give the drug company an ultimatum. Merck
gets to say it pulled the drug. FDA/Health Canada should have done it,
but leave it up to Merck et al, after "suggesting."  If that's the case
it's wrong.

The article that you should have read was the one for which the link
didn't work and for which I posted a correct link.

Incidentally, today I received a communciation about a study that will
be published in JAMA saying Bayer did the same thing with Baycol. I
wonder if then, people were focussed on the issue, or a comma out of
place somewhere by a journalist.

Tsk tsk. Jim. And yes Jim. This is science bowed low.

When it comes right down to it, neither Merck nor FDA pulled Vioxx.
Graham did and when the FDA wouldn't listen, he went to the
journalists. And that's how this began and will end.

Not with the scientists who were willing to look the other way doing
what was right.

But one man. And one journalist.  

Zee
Jim Chinnis - 20 Nov 2004 02:02 GMT
outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:

>Tsk tsk. Jim. And yes Jim. This is science bowed low.

I'd say it is business bowed low. The science is unchanged.

Yes, the journalists did a good thing. I only warned that they will stumble if
they begin to write incoherent or just plain wrong material such as the bit
you quoted by Pizzo.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 20 Nov 2004 02:24 GMT
> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
>
> >Tsk tsk. Jim. And yes Jim. This is science bowed low.
>
> I'd say it is business bowed low. The science is unchanged.

Well yes. Science has willingly allowed itself to be co-opted by
business.

> Yes, the journalists did a good thing. I only warned that they will stumble if
> they begin to write incoherent or just plain wrong material such as the bit
> you quoted by Pizzo.

It was not the point. I gave you two: one 'straight', one sarky. They
each made pithy and factual points. They were different styles, from
different publications, but neither was 'wrong'.

It was the issue that was 'wrong'.

Zee

> --
> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu

Sorry no url:

FDA Official Assails Agency
On Monitoring of Risks

At Hearing on Vioxx Recall,
Safety Expert Cites Lapses,
And Points to Other Drugs

By ANNA WILDE MATHEWS and HEATHER WON TESORIERO
Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
November 19, 2004; Page A1

WASHINGTON - A debate over how the Food and Drug Administration
responds to newly discovered risks in drugs escalated yesterday, as an
FDA official criticized his agency's approach and raised concerns about
a handful of medications already on the market.

David Graham, associate director for science and medicine in the
agency's drug-safety office, told the Senate Finance Committee that his
agency discounts recommendations from its own safety researchers and
doesn't give sufficient weight to safety concerns once drugs are
approved.

Some other witnesses echoed his critique at the hearing, which focused
largely on the history of Vioxx, a painkiller with $2.5 billion in
annual sales that was withdrawn by Merck& Co. on Sept. 30 because it
was tied to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke with long-term
use.

Dr. Graham, who said he clashed with FDA officials about his
conclusions on Vioxx's safety, cited five other drugs that he believes
require stronger regulatory action: Pfizer Inc.'s Bextra, a painkiller
in the same class of medications as Vioxx; Crestor, a cholesterol drug
made by AstraZeneca PLC; Meridia, Abbott Laboratories' obesity drug;
Accutane, an acne drug made by Roche Holding AG and available
generically; and Serevent, an asthma medicine from GlaxoSmithKline PLC.

Those drugs already have drawn heightened scrutiny of the FDA as well
as the attention of consumer advocates and some regulatory agencies
abroad. The companies that make those five drugs defended their
products, most of which already have warnings on their labels about the
safety issues he raised.

Although Dr. Graham's sharp criticism of his agency and his public
warning about specific drugs was unusual, his concerns about the FDA's
drug-safety policies reflect a longstanding tension within the agency.
It has been accused of both dragging its feet in getting some drugs to
market - a complaint heard regarding approvals of some AIDS
medicines, for instance - and of moving too quickly to accommodate
new drugs backed by big pharmaceutical companies.

Sandra Kweder, deputy director of the FDA's office of new drugs, who
testified on behalf of the agency, said the drug-review divisions of
the FDA "work extremely closely with our colleagues in drug safety" and
scientific disagreements are dealt with properly. But, she added,
"There is clearly concern that somehow the system is not working as
well as it could. ... We need to address that."

In an interview, Steven Galson, acting director of the FDA's drug
center -- of which the drug-safety office is a part -- said that each
of the five drugs "does have safety issues that need to be addressed
and discussed," and added that he feels the agency is "on top of them."

The Vioxx withdrawal -- which has driven Merck stock down to about $27
a share from the prior $45 -- is adding new weight to the idea that the
FDA should develop an independent process for overseeing drugs once
they are on the market, to help it strike a balance between the
benefits offered by important new treatments and the sometime-serious
side effects.

Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican, said
he supports greater independent authority for the office that oversees
drugs' safety after they go on the market. "I intend to keep pressing
for reforms inside the FDA," he said during yesterday's hearing. "An
independent office of drug safety would be a positive change."

The FDA's Dr. Kweder said the agency has commissioned an outside review
of how it handles drug safety and "we look forward to change if that is
deemed needed."

The broader theme of the FDA's handling of drug safety provided a
backdrop for testimony that centered mostly on Vioxx. Two academic
researchers offered a detailed timeline of the growing evidence of
concerns about the drug, drawing largely on Merck and FDA documents
that have been previously reported. Questions about the drug's
cardiovascular safety arose before it went on the market in May 1999.
"The failure to conduct large long-term safety studies subjected
millions of patients over four years to a drug whose safety had been
questioned by the FDA even before its approval," said Gurkirpal Singh,
an adjunct clinical professor of medicine at Stanford, who was
testifying by a live video hookup.

Raymond Gilmartin, chief executive of Merck, said at the hearing that
his company acted responsibly by studying Vioxx extensively, disclosing
data about the drug and pulling it from the market when the latest
results appeared to demonstrate increased risk. "Merck puts patients
first," he said.

Dr. Graham has in the past clashed with other FDA scientists who have
disagreed with his interpretations of data, and he has raised early
alarms internally on drugs that were eventually pulled from the market
because of their risks. In his testimony yesterday, he argued that FDA
is "incapable of protecting America against another Vioxx," and the
FDA's drug center "overvalues the benefits of the drugs it approves and
seriously undervalues, disregards, and disrespects drug safety." The
FDA divisions that review drugs for approval become too attached to
them, he said.

Dr. Kweder yesterday defended the agency's handling of Vioxx and other
safety matters. The agency "pursued ... vigorously" a label change that
added cardiovascular concerns to Vioxx's label in 2002, she said: "We
did not sit back."

The agency's Dr. Galson said that the office of drug safety is already
separate from the review divisions -- though it doesn't have
independent authority over drugs -- and "we think it would be really
dangerous to separate the assessment of benefits of drugs too much from
the assessment of risks."

Separating the FDA's drug-review divisions from its post-approval
safety oversight wouldn't be simple to implement. Currently, the
drug-review divisions generally oversee labeling and other decisions
even after the medicines go on the market, with the drug-safety office
in an advisory role. Doctors in the review divisions, which are made up
of medical specialists, are often the most familiar with how a drug
works and where it fits in clinical practice. They are used to relying
on placebo-controlled trials, the "gold standard" of scientific
evidence, to make their approval decisions.

However, once a drug is approved, the FDA typically has to rely largely
on reports of incidents that come in through its "adverse event"
reporting system. By some estimates, that system captures just 10% of
the problems. Sometimes, the agency does studies such as one Dr. Graham
worked on, which troll through large databases for trends. The FDA
can't order a drug maker to do another safety trial after the product
is approved, though it has strong indirect influence.

There has long been concern -- sometimes expressed by FDA officials --
that the agency has limited resources to detect safety problems once a
drug is approved. The other question, raised by Dr. Graham, is whether
the FDA acts aggressively enough to obtain data and respond to the
safety information it does get.

In defending the other drugs mentioned in Dr. Graham's testimony,
GlaxoSmithKline said Serevent "is safe and effective when used
appropriately" according to labeling guidelines, and has a "black box"
warning on its label. A spokeswoman for Abbott said that Meridia is one
of the few effective drugs available for treating obesity and has been
"extensively studied" in more than 12,000 patients. A Pfizer
spokeswoman said that a recent analysis had found no increased
cardiovascular risk in Bextra.

A spokeswoman for AstraZeneca said Dr. Graham's comments were
"inconsistent with past statements of the FDA" and the drug's safety
profile is "comparable" to competing drugs. A Roche spokeswoman said
that the company and other manufacturers are working on a new registry
to monitor Accutane prescriptions: "It's a high priority for all of
us," she said.

Write to Anna Wilde Mathews at anna.mathews@wsj.com6 and Heather Won
Tesoriero at heather.tesoriero@wsj.com7
Jim Chinnis - 20 Nov 2004 04:11 GMT
outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:

>Well yes. Science has willingly allowed itself to be co-opted by
>business.

Science can't be co-opted. That's the mistake in thinking that Merck and the
like have made.

I really am not your adversary here.
--
Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 20 Nov 2004 04:28 GMT
> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
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> >Well yes. Science has willingly allowed itself to be co-opted by
> >business.

> Science can't be co-opted.

Hmmm. Interesting...I'll think on that a bit.

Zee

That's the mistake in thinking that Merck and the
> like have made.
>
> I really am not your adversary here.
> --
> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 01:48 GMT
Top posting to repair broken link for pull quotes in original post:

Associated Press
http://tinyurl.com/4wfyz

And NYTimes in full:

November 18, 2004
Congress Told F.D.A. Failed Public on Vioxx
By REUTERS

Filed at 6:33 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration failed to
protect the public from Merck & Co. Inc.'s (MRK.N) now-withdrawn
painkiller Vioxx and is incapable of guarding America from dangerous
drugs, a veteran FDA researcher told Congress on Thursday.

Dr. David Graham, a 20-year FDA scientist who had warned about heart
risks with the Vioxx arthritis pill, called the agency's oversight of
the drug ``a profound regulatory failure.''

Concerns about a link between the medication and heart problems were
building during more than four years on the market. The FDA required a
warning about possible heart risks but felt the drug's benefits, few
ulcers and less stomach bleeding, made it worth keeping on the market.

Merck Chief Executive Raymond Gilmartin said the company had believed
wholeheartedly in Vioxx and had followed a rigorous scientific
procedure every step of the way.

``In fact, my wife was taking Vioxx ... up until the day we withdrew it
from the market,'' Gilmartin told the Senate Finance Committee.

Millions of Americans had used Vioxx before Merck withdrew the drug on
Sept. 30 after a study showed the medicine doubled heart attack and
stroke risk.

``I would argue the FDA as currently configured is incapable of
protecting America against another Vioxx. We are virtually
defenseless,'' said Graham, associate director for science in the FDA's
Office of Drug Safety.

Graham estimated Vioxx had caused between 88,000 and 139,000 excess
cases of heart attack and stroke.

Gilmartin and FDA official Dr. Sandra Kweder said those numbers were
projections and there was no way of knowing the actual number.

Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican, said he
worried the FDA was ``far too cozy'' with drug companies and an
independent drug safety office might be needed.

Kweder, deputy director of the FDA's Office of New Drugs, said the
agency ``worked actively and vigorously with Merck to inform public
health professionals of what was known regarding (cardiovascular risk)
with Vioxx and to pursue further definitive investigations.''

Kweder also declined to fault Merck: ``I believe that Merck acted
responsibly once the problem was recognized.''

Graham said he felt pressured by supervisors to water down his
findings, from a study of patient insurance records, that Vioxx users
had a 50 percent greater chance of heart attack and sudden cardiac
death than people who took Pfizer Inc.'srival Celebrex.

Graham named five medicines currently on the market that he believes
need closer scrutiny for safety: Abbott Laboratories Inc.'s (ABT.N)
weight-loss drug Meridia, AstraZeneca Plc's (AZN.L)
cholesterol-lowering drug Crestor, Pfizer Inc.'s (PFE.N) painkiller
Bextra, Roche's (ROG.VX) acne drug Accutane, and GlaxoSmithKline Plc's
(GSK.L) asthma drug Serevent.

Kweder disagreed. ``I do not have reason to believe that set of five
drugs is specifically more concerning,'' she said.

Graham said during his career he had recommended 12 drugs be withdrawn
from the market, and 10 of them were pulled.

In a statement on Wednesday, acting FDA Commissioner Lester Crawford
said Graham had violated procedures when he submitted his Vioxx
research to a medical journal without FDA clearance.

Grassley said Crawford's statement appeared intended to intimidate a
witness.

Vioxx was the second example this year of the FDA not respecting its
own scientists, Grassley said. Another FDA reviewer, Dr. Andrew
Mosholder, had warned antidepressants were linked to suicidal behavior
in youth, but supervisors initially kept him from making those views
public.

Grassley also faulted Merck for aggressively marketing Vioxx in the
nearly two years between submitting results of a trial to the FDA in
June 2000 showing a higher incidence of cardiac problems with Vioxx,
and the FDA approving a new label detailing those risks in April 2002.

Merck's Gilmartin insisted the firm had acted properly with Vioxx.
``Over the past six years, we have promptly disclosed results of
numerous Merck-sponsored studies to the FDA, physicians, the scientific
community and the media,'' he said.

> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
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> Jim Chinnis  Warrenton, Virginia, USA  jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
David Wright - 19 Nov 2004 04:34 GMT
>Wonder why department
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>discrepancy? Stephen Pizzo finds that it has a lot to do with whose
>campaign benefits from pharmaceutical profits.

The FDA didn't pull Vioxx off the market, Merck did.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 19:55 GMT
> >Wonder why department
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> The FDA didn't pull Vioxx off the market, Merck did.

Merck suppressed negative information on this killer drug for years. If
they had any corporate conscience (oh what am I saying the oxymoron of
the year contest ends here) they would have done the right thing
anytime within the previous four years.

Baycal Redux.

Zee

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