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Vioxx and the BUSH campaign
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outrider@despammed.com - 18 Nov 2004 21:33 GMT Wonder why department
http://www.suntimes.com/cgi-bin/print.cgi
"To date, the FDA has not given us any indication of a major concern regarding Crestor," said {AstraZeneca}."
"I would argue that the FDA as currently configured is incapable of protecting America against another Vioxx," said David Graham, who warned that the arthritis drug had been linked to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke."
http://www.tompaine.com/articles/double_standards_on_drugs.php
Double Standards On Drugs Stephen Pizzo November 16, 2004
The FDA just issued a warning on RU-486-the drug used to cause medical abortions-after two women died from secondary infections after taking the pill to end their pregnancies. But the FDA waited until about 27,000 people had died from heart attacks and strokes while taking arthritis drug Vioxx before pulling that drug. Why the discrepancy? Stephen Pizzo finds that it has a lot to do with whose campaign benefits from pharmaceutical profits.
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Compare that FDA response to its handling of Merck's hot-selling arthritis pill, Vioxx. Warnings on that pill have been flooding in from around the world for more than two years-warnings the FDA ignored. The pill worked fine at alleviating pain-especially for the estimated 27,000 users it killed. It seems Vioxx had some nasty side affects: heart attacks and strokes.
Jim Chinnis - 18 Nov 2004 22:32 GMT outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
>Double Standards On Drugs >Stephen Pizzo [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >27,000 users it killed. It seems Vioxx had some nasty side affects: >heart attacks and strokes. These statements are inconsistent: "But the FDA waited until about 27,000 people had died from heart attacks and strokes while taking arthritis drug Vioxx" AND "The pill worked fine at alleviating pain-especially for the estimated 27,000 users it killed."
To what does the 27,000 number refer? -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 01:25 GMT > outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu I think the writer is being sarcastic. Disgusted, sarcastic and very angry; as we all should be. The regulatory body mandated to protect us is instead protecting corporate interests; in this case, pharma.
Twenty-seven thousand was the estimated number of Vioxx users who died of heart attack or stroke caused by this drug (marketed with negative information withheld) while the FDA looked the other way: profit before healthcare. And in the allegations of the writer, profit for Bush.
However, in the congress hearings today, and the NY Times articles on same, the number of deaths is estimated to be much higher. This numbers are given by FDA whistleblower Graham:
"I would argue the FDA as currently configured is incapable of protecting America against another Vioxx. We are virtually defenseless,'' said Graham, associate director for science in the FDA's Office of Drug Safety.
Graham estimated Vioxx had caused between 88,000 and 139,000 excess cases of heart attack and stroke.
Graham said he felt pressured by supervisors to water down his findings, from a study of patient insurance records, that Vioxx users had a 50 percent greater chance of heart attack and sudden cardiac death than people who took Pfizer Inc.'srival Celebrex.
Graham named five medicines currently on the market that he believes need closer scrutiny for safety: Abbott Laboratories Inc.'s (ABT.N) weight-loss drug Meridia, AstraZeneca Plc's (AZN.L) cholesterol-lowering drug Crestor, Pfizer Inc.'s (PFE.N) painkiller Bextra, Roche's (ROG.VX) acne drug Accutane, and GlaxoSmithKline Plc's (GSK.L) asthma drug Serevent."
Zee
John S. Dyson - 19 Nov 2004 06:28 GMT >> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: >> [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > information withheld) while the FDA looked the other way: profit before > healthcare. And in the allegations of the writer, profit for Bush. Remember, the process to deceive started during Clinton (akin to the plans for the Al Queda attacks and the severe weakening of the CIA during BJ Clinton.)
It is becoming a rather common pattern: Blame Bush for Clinton's misbehavior and mistakes. If the left could get by with it, they'd blame Bush for BJ's screwing around with the young woman, Monica, with whom he claimed that he didn't have 'sex'... Well, I guess that it is fairly obvious that the incredibly dishonest left had been trying to spin the facts so that history might claim that it was Ken Starr's fault that BJ Clinton messed around with the young girl...
Spinning the facts so that it was claimed to be the GOPs fault that excuse BJ Clinton perpetual lies about his own behavior (including an illegally dishonest statement in a deposition that led to BJ's disbarment) doesn't change the fact that the Demoncrats have been fairly successful at convincing their idiot leftist Dembulb constituency that BJ Clinton's misbehavior is almost always someone else's fault.
Frankly, the personally pathetic lefties should just blame their problems against God, because it is fairly clear that he has indeed taken sides -- but not really for advocating the left or right, but to simply direct us all away from the typical leftist behaviors by using the left itself as absurd examples of 'modest' dishonesty that eventually lead to the disgusting evil and total lack of integrity that manifests as the larger Democrat party (similar to demonic infiltration or infiltration of spies into specific portions of free society.)
John
Jim Chinnis - 19 Nov 2004 16:59 GMT outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
>> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: >> [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > >Zee When discussing the relative risks and benefits of a drug, it isn't ethical or useful or effective to twist the data to support a view, even if one is serving a "higher truth." That approach is the heart of much poetry and art, but doesn't belong here.
The evidence against Merck, the FDA, and Vioxx is crystal clear. It is weakened by misrepresentations of *any* kind.
(Not speaking of YOUR words--just what you quoted...) -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 19:44 GMT > outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 82 lines] > -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu Well you've made it clear it's not me who "twisted the data".
But who did in your opinion? Graham, the FDA whistleblower?
And which data exactly are you referring to?
The case is incontrovertible Jim and to split hairs minimizes this serious and dangerous practise which has gone on far too long, amid scorn and ridicule of those who would draw attention to same. Zee
Jim Chinnis - 19 Nov 2004 21:25 GMT outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
>> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: >> [quoted text clipped - 106 lines] > >But who did in your opinion? Graham, the FDA whistleblower? Pizzo, the journalist.
>And which data exactly are you referring to? "27,000." Add in the reference to FDA pulling the drug, as another poster pointed out. Sloppy journalism concerning an important topic.
>The case is incontrovertible Jim and to split hairs minimizes this >serious and dangerous practise which has gone on far too long, amid >scorn and ridicule of those who would draw attention to same. >Zee -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 23:38 GMT > outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 115 lines] > "27,000." Add in the reference to FDA pulling the drug, as another poster > pointed out. Sloppy journalism concerning an important topic. The "27,000" was the correct figure the day the article was written and when I posted. When the congressional hearings made ink the new figure emerged.
The FDA didn't pull the drug. Yes. They should have. That they didn't is the POINT of all these stories and will be the POINT of the families of the dead.
Is the topic important enough for you to have an opinion on whether or not the FDA carried out its mandate Jim? On whether or not science is not being practised and regulated as it should be? And if that should be changed, how do you think it should?
Or are you only interested in extemporaneous editing and hit-and-run commentary.
Zee
Jim Chinnis - 20 Nov 2004 01:07 GMT outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
>The "27,000" was the correct figure the day the article was written and >when I posted. When the congressional hearings made ink the new figure >emerged. The correct figure for which: the number of people who died of heart attacks or whatever while taking Vioxx, or the number that Vioxx killed? They certainly aren't the same!
>The FDA didn't pull the drug. Yes. They should have. That they didn't >is the POINT of all these stories and will be the POINT of the families >of the dead. It's NOT the point of the story by Pizzo. According to him, the FDA DID pull the drug!
>Is the topic important enough for you to have an opinion on whether or >not the FDA carried out its mandate Jim? On whether or not science is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Or are you only interested in extemporaneous editing and hit-and-run >commentary. I'm interested in the whole lot. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 22:45 GMT > outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > > > >Zee After reading though today's analysis of this issue Jim I have some other comments to make, in regards to your post...
> When discussing the relative risks and benefits of a drug, it isn't ethical or > useful or effective to twist the data to support a view, even if one is
> serving a "higher truth." That approach is the heart of much poetry and art, > but doesn't belong here. While I do not defend the hyperbole of a second-rate e-zine writer, I hardly think that's the issue here.
When you speak of twisting data Jim you are of course referring to how Merck has forgone usefullness, effectiveness, not to mention ethics, to twist the data on Vioxx?
Still defending the stained grail of science?
It is science that is shrouded in shame here today, Jim. Not the arts.
Zee
> The evidence against Merck, the FDA, and Vioxx is crystal clear. It is > weakened by misrepresentations of *any* kind. > > (Not speaking of YOUR words--just what you quoted...) As an afterthought Jim, and 'after' reading through today's stories on this issue: it is not the arts that has twisted data here Jim. It is science that is shrouded in shame.
> -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu Jim Chinnis - 20 Nov 2004 00:57 GMT outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
>While I do not defend the hyperbole of a second-rate e-zine writer, I >hardly think that's the issue here. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Zee There's nothing shameful when an artist uses distortion and artifice to reveal a higher truth. It is a mistake for someone to attempt to use science that way, whether that person be a scientist or a journalist.
Science isn't stained by the distortions that businesses like Merck have engaged in. Neither is it stained by the twists that journalists use in their pursuit of higher truths or--maybe--just bigger sales figures.
I think Merck and other companies that have twisted or obscured the science and thus sacrificed the public health in order to save their wallets are guilty, guilty, guilty. I only ask that their critics be very careful in what they say about the science and data. Making obvious errors and making obvious misstatements that make Merck and company look bad has the reverse effect in many cases. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 20 Nov 2004 01:46 GMT > outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu Obvious errors and making obvious misstatements: that's not what happened here as I pointed out.
And it's my understanding from people who've worked with Health Canada that these regulatory bodies give the drug company an ultimatum. Merck gets to say it pulled the drug. FDA/Health Canada should have done it, but leave it up to Merck et al, after "suggesting." If that's the case it's wrong.
The article that you should have read was the one for which the link didn't work and for which I posted a correct link.
Incidentally, today I received a communciation about a study that will be published in JAMA saying Bayer did the same thing with Baycol. I wonder if then, people were focussed on the issue, or a comma out of place somewhere by a journalist.
Tsk tsk. Jim. And yes Jim. This is science bowed low.
When it comes right down to it, neither Merck nor FDA pulled Vioxx. Graham did and when the FDA wouldn't listen, he went to the journalists. And that's how this began and will end.
Not with the scientists who were willing to look the other way doing what was right.
But one man. And one journalist.
Zee
Jim Chinnis - 20 Nov 2004 02:02 GMT outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
>Tsk tsk. Jim. And yes Jim. This is science bowed low. I'd say it is business bowed low. The science is unchanged.
Yes, the journalists did a good thing. I only warned that they will stumble if they begin to write incoherent or just plain wrong material such as the bit you quoted by Pizzo. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 20 Nov 2004 02:24 GMT > outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: > > >Tsk tsk. Jim. And yes Jim. This is science bowed low. > > I'd say it is business bowed low. The science is unchanged. Well yes. Science has willingly allowed itself to be co-opted by business.
> Yes, the journalists did a good thing. I only warned that they will stumble if > they begin to write incoherent or just plain wrong material such as the bit > you quoted by Pizzo. It was not the point. I gave you two: one 'straight', one sarky. They each made pithy and factual points. They were different styles, from different publications, but neither was 'wrong'.
It was the issue that was 'wrong'.
Zee
> -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu Sorry no url:
FDA Official Assails Agency On Monitoring of Risks
At Hearing on Vioxx Recall, Safety Expert Cites Lapses, And Points to Other Drugs
By ANNA WILDE MATHEWS and HEATHER WON TESORIERO Staff Reporters of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL November 19, 2004; Page A1
WASHINGTON - A debate over how the Food and Drug Administration responds to newly discovered risks in drugs escalated yesterday, as an FDA official criticized his agency's approach and raised concerns about a handful of medications already on the market.
David Graham, associate director for science and medicine in the agency's drug-safety office, told the Senate Finance Committee that his agency discounts recommendations from its own safety researchers and doesn't give sufficient weight to safety concerns once drugs are approved.
Some other witnesses echoed his critique at the hearing, which focused largely on the history of Vioxx, a painkiller with $2.5 billion in annual sales that was withdrawn by Merck& Co. on Sept. 30 because it was tied to an increased risk of heart attack and stroke with long-term use.
Dr. Graham, who said he clashed with FDA officials about his conclusions on Vioxx's safety, cited five other drugs that he believes require stronger regulatory action: Pfizer Inc.'s Bextra, a painkiller in the same class of medications as Vioxx; Crestor, a cholesterol drug made by AstraZeneca PLC; Meridia, Abbott Laboratories' obesity drug; Accutane, an acne drug made by Roche Holding AG and available generically; and Serevent, an asthma medicine from GlaxoSmithKline PLC.
Those drugs already have drawn heightened scrutiny of the FDA as well as the attention of consumer advocates and some regulatory agencies abroad. The companies that make those five drugs defended their products, most of which already have warnings on their labels about the safety issues he raised.
Although Dr. Graham's sharp criticism of his agency and his public warning about specific drugs was unusual, his concerns about the FDA's drug-safety policies reflect a longstanding tension within the agency. It has been accused of both dragging its feet in getting some drugs to market - a complaint heard regarding approvals of some AIDS medicines, for instance - and of moving too quickly to accommodate new drugs backed by big pharmaceutical companies.
Sandra Kweder, deputy director of the FDA's office of new drugs, who testified on behalf of the agency, said the drug-review divisions of the FDA "work extremely closely with our colleagues in drug safety" and scientific disagreements are dealt with properly. But, she added, "There is clearly concern that somehow the system is not working as well as it could. ... We need to address that."
In an interview, Steven Galson, acting director of the FDA's drug center -- of which the drug-safety office is a part -- said that each of the five drugs "does have safety issues that need to be addressed and discussed," and added that he feels the agency is "on top of them."
The Vioxx withdrawal -- which has driven Merck stock down to about $27 a share from the prior $45 -- is adding new weight to the idea that the FDA should develop an independent process for overseeing drugs once they are on the market, to help it strike a balance between the benefits offered by important new treatments and the sometime-serious side effects.
Finance Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican, said he supports greater independent authority for the office that oversees drugs' safety after they go on the market. "I intend to keep pressing for reforms inside the FDA," he said during yesterday's hearing. "An independent office of drug safety would be a positive change."
The FDA's Dr. Kweder said the agency has commissioned an outside review of how it handles drug safety and "we look forward to change if that is deemed needed."
The broader theme of the FDA's handling of drug safety provided a backdrop for testimony that centered mostly on Vioxx. Two academic researchers offered a detailed timeline of the growing evidence of concerns about the drug, drawing largely on Merck and FDA documents that have been previously reported. Questions about the drug's cardiovascular safety arose before it went on the market in May 1999. "The failure to conduct large long-term safety studies subjected millions of patients over four years to a drug whose safety had been questioned by the FDA even before its approval," said Gurkirpal Singh, an adjunct clinical professor of medicine at Stanford, who was testifying by a live video hookup.
Raymond Gilmartin, chief executive of Merck, said at the hearing that his company acted responsibly by studying Vioxx extensively, disclosing data about the drug and pulling it from the market when the latest results appeared to demonstrate increased risk. "Merck puts patients first," he said.
Dr. Graham has in the past clashed with other FDA scientists who have disagreed with his interpretations of data, and he has raised early alarms internally on drugs that were eventually pulled from the market because of their risks. In his testimony yesterday, he argued that FDA is "incapable of protecting America against another Vioxx," and the FDA's drug center "overvalues the benefits of the drugs it approves and seriously undervalues, disregards, and disrespects drug safety." The FDA divisions that review drugs for approval become too attached to them, he said.
Dr. Kweder yesterday defended the agency's handling of Vioxx and other safety matters. The agency "pursued ... vigorously" a label change that added cardiovascular concerns to Vioxx's label in 2002, she said: "We did not sit back."
The agency's Dr. Galson said that the office of drug safety is already separate from the review divisions -- though it doesn't have independent authority over drugs -- and "we think it would be really dangerous to separate the assessment of benefits of drugs too much from the assessment of risks."
Separating the FDA's drug-review divisions from its post-approval safety oversight wouldn't be simple to implement. Currently, the drug-review divisions generally oversee labeling and other decisions even after the medicines go on the market, with the drug-safety office in an advisory role. Doctors in the review divisions, which are made up of medical specialists, are often the most familiar with how a drug works and where it fits in clinical practice. They are used to relying on placebo-controlled trials, the "gold standard" of scientific evidence, to make their approval decisions.
However, once a drug is approved, the FDA typically has to rely largely on reports of incidents that come in through its "adverse event" reporting system. By some estimates, that system captures just 10% of the problems. Sometimes, the agency does studies such as one Dr. Graham worked on, which troll through large databases for trends. The FDA can't order a drug maker to do another safety trial after the product is approved, though it has strong indirect influence.
There has long been concern -- sometimes expressed by FDA officials -- that the agency has limited resources to detect safety problems once a drug is approved. The other question, raised by Dr. Graham, is whether the FDA acts aggressively enough to obtain data and respond to the safety information it does get.
In defending the other drugs mentioned in Dr. Graham's testimony, GlaxoSmithKline said Serevent "is safe and effective when used appropriately" according to labeling guidelines, and has a "black box" warning on its label. A spokeswoman for Abbott said that Meridia is one of the few effective drugs available for treating obesity and has been "extensively studied" in more than 12,000 patients. A Pfizer spokeswoman said that a recent analysis had found no increased cardiovascular risk in Bextra.
A spokeswoman for AstraZeneca said Dr. Graham's comments were "inconsistent with past statements of the FDA" and the drug's safety profile is "comparable" to competing drugs. A Roche spokeswoman said that the company and other manufacturers are working on a new registry to monitor Accutane prescriptions: "It's a high priority for all of us," she said.
Write to Anna Wilde Mathews at anna.mathews@wsj.com6 and Heather Won Tesoriero at heather.tesoriero@wsj.com7
Jim Chinnis - 20 Nov 2004 04:11 GMT outrider@despammed.com wrote in part:
>Well yes. Science has willingly allowed itself to be co-opted by >business. Science can't be co-opted. That's the mistake in thinking that Merck and the like have made.
I really am not your adversary here. -- Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu
outrider@despammed.com - 20 Nov 2004 04:28 GMT > outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: > > >Well yes. Science has willingly allowed itself to be co-opted by > >business.
> Science can't be co-opted. Hmmm. Interesting...I'll think on that a bit.
Zee
That's the mistake in thinking that Merck and the
> like have made. > > I really am not your adversary here. > -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 01:48 GMT Top posting to repair broken link for pull quotes in original post:
Associated Press http://tinyurl.com/4wfyz
And NYTimes in full:
November 18, 2004 Congress Told F.D.A. Failed Public on Vioxx By REUTERS
Filed at 6:33 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Food and Drug Administration failed to protect the public from Merck & Co. Inc.'s (MRK.N) now-withdrawn painkiller Vioxx and is incapable of guarding America from dangerous drugs, a veteran FDA researcher told Congress on Thursday.
Dr. David Graham, a 20-year FDA scientist who had warned about heart risks with the Vioxx arthritis pill, called the agency's oversight of the drug ``a profound regulatory failure.''
Concerns about a link between the medication and heart problems were building during more than four years on the market. The FDA required a warning about possible heart risks but felt the drug's benefits, few ulcers and less stomach bleeding, made it worth keeping on the market.
Merck Chief Executive Raymond Gilmartin said the company had believed wholeheartedly in Vioxx and had followed a rigorous scientific procedure every step of the way.
``In fact, my wife was taking Vioxx ... up until the day we withdrew it from the market,'' Gilmartin told the Senate Finance Committee.
Millions of Americans had used Vioxx before Merck withdrew the drug on Sept. 30 after a study showed the medicine doubled heart attack and stroke risk.
``I would argue the FDA as currently configured is incapable of protecting America against another Vioxx. We are virtually defenseless,'' said Graham, associate director for science in the FDA's Office of Drug Safety.
Graham estimated Vioxx had caused between 88,000 and 139,000 excess cases of heart attack and stroke.
Gilmartin and FDA official Dr. Sandra Kweder said those numbers were projections and there was no way of knowing the actual number.
Committee Chairman Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican, said he worried the FDA was ``far too cozy'' with drug companies and an independent drug safety office might be needed.
Kweder, deputy director of the FDA's Office of New Drugs, said the agency ``worked actively and vigorously with Merck to inform public health professionals of what was known regarding (cardiovascular risk) with Vioxx and to pursue further definitive investigations.''
Kweder also declined to fault Merck: ``I believe that Merck acted responsibly once the problem was recognized.''
Graham said he felt pressured by supervisors to water down his findings, from a study of patient insurance records, that Vioxx users had a 50 percent greater chance of heart attack and sudden cardiac death than people who took Pfizer Inc.'srival Celebrex.
Graham named five medicines currently on the market that he believes need closer scrutiny for safety: Abbott Laboratories Inc.'s (ABT.N) weight-loss drug Meridia, AstraZeneca Plc's (AZN.L) cholesterol-lowering drug Crestor, Pfizer Inc.'s (PFE.N) painkiller Bextra, Roche's (ROG.VX) acne drug Accutane, and GlaxoSmithKline Plc's (GSK.L) asthma drug Serevent.
Kweder disagreed. ``I do not have reason to believe that set of five drugs is specifically more concerning,'' she said.
Graham said during his career he had recommended 12 drugs be withdrawn from the market, and 10 of them were pulled.
In a statement on Wednesday, acting FDA Commissioner Lester Crawford said Graham had violated procedures when he submitted his Vioxx research to a medical journal without FDA clearance.
Grassley said Crawford's statement appeared intended to intimidate a witness.
Vioxx was the second example this year of the FDA not respecting its own scientists, Grassley said. Another FDA reviewer, Dr. Andrew Mosholder, had warned antidepressants were linked to suicidal behavior in youth, but supervisors initially kept him from making those views public.
Grassley also faulted Merck for aggressively marketing Vioxx in the nearly two years between submitting results of a trial to the FDA in June 2000 showing a higher incidence of cardiac problems with Vioxx, and the FDA approving a new label detailing those risks in April 2002.
Merck's Gilmartin insisted the firm had acted properly with Vioxx. ``Over the past six years, we have promptly disclosed results of numerous Merck-sponsored studies to the FDA, physicians, the scientific community and the media,'' he said.
> outrider@despammed.com wrote in part: > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > -- > Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu David Wright - 19 Nov 2004 04:34 GMT >Wonder why department > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >discrepancy? Stephen Pizzo finds that it has a lot to do with whose >campaign benefits from pharmaceutical profits. The FDA didn't pull Vioxx off the market, Merck did.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
outrider@despammed.com - 19 Nov 2004 19:55 GMT > >Wonder why department > > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > The FDA didn't pull Vioxx off the market, Merck did. Merck suppressed negative information on this killer drug for years. If they had any corporate conscience (oh what am I saying the oxymoron of the year contest ends here) they would have done the right thing anytime within the previous four years.
Baycal Redux.
Zee
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net > These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct. > "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants > were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
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