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The 'Safe' vaccine lie

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john - 18 Nov 2004 20:58 GMT
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html
Jeff - 19 Nov 2004 01:11 GMT
> http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html

The only lie here is the whaleto site. If you notice, the author of the site
appears too ashamed to put his name on he site. Can't blame her, really.
Obviously, she has no clue about science, medicine or vaccines. Quite sad,
considering how much time this well-meaning person wasted on misinformation.

Jeff
David Wright - 19 Nov 2004 04:32 GMT
>http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html

The usual rabid hysteria -- a lot of unverifiable quotations, and
nothing much in the way of hard fact.  Typical.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
PF Riley - 19 Nov 2004 05:46 GMT
>>http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html
>
>The usual rabid hysteria -- a lot of unverifiable quotations, and
>nothing much in the way of hard fact.  Typical.

Its main premise is that if something can cause death or "numerous
diseases" or brain damage then it is not safe.

By that logic, then, eating is not safe.

Does John eat?

PF
David Wright - 20 Nov 2004 02:19 GMT
>>>http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Does John eat?

I don't even want to think about what John eats.  But your point is
well-taken, and is typical of the anti-vac loons.  They focus entirely
on the possible adverse effects of vaccines and not at all on the
adverse effects of diseases.  John travels an extra few blocks into
Loonville by basically denying that (a) vaccines ever work, and (b)
that diseases like measles are ever harmful.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
PF Riley - 19 Nov 2004 05:18 GMT
>http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html

Hey John... do you drive a car?
john - 19 Nov 2004 07:22 GMT
> >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html
>
> Hey John... do you drive a car?

Yes, that's decidedly unsafe around here, 4 people died on our local road
this year alone (and I live in the country), one being a workmate of my son,
one biker must have lost his leg, he landed on the forecourt and left a load
of blood, and so on.  Bit like vaccination.  Except you don't need to
vaccinate, you do need to drive, the next lie is that vaccines are
effective--start at the first one-- smallpox
http://www.whale.to/a/smallpox_hoax.html

Food is safe the last time I looked unless you take that poison called
aspartame that you lot turn a blind eye to, along with the rest of the junk
foods, bottlefeeding, numerous disease cause and cures etc--I call that
lying with silence http://www.whale.to/b/lying_sil.html

Is it seatbelts next?
David Wright - 20 Nov 2004 02:21 GMT
>> >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Is it seatbelts next?

John's combination of paranoia and illiteracy is such that it's
difficult to know what he meant by that last question.  Is he
suggesting that seat belts don't work, or that they do?

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
PF Riley - 20 Nov 2004 04:01 GMT
>> >http://www.whale.to/vaccines/safer.html
>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>effective--start at the first one-- smallpox
>http://www.whale.to/a/smallpox_hoax.html

No, you don't need to drive. You can ride a bike or walk. Thou
hypocrite.

>Food is safe the last time I looked unless you take that poison called
>aspartame that you lot turn a blind eye to, along with the rest of the junk
>foods, bottlefeeding, numerous disease cause and cures etc--I call that
>lying with silence http://www.whale.to/b/lying_sil.html

And how many people die of choking every year in YOUR country? And
peanut allergy?

PF
john - 26 Nov 2004 22:33 GMT
> No, you don't need to drive. You can ride a bike or walk. Thou
> hypocrite.

What small island do you live on?

> >Food is safe the last time I looked unless you take that poison called
> >aspartame that you lot turn a blind eye to, along with the rest of the junk
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> And how many people die of choking every year in YOUR country? And
> peanut allergy?

Peanut allergy--let me guess, caused by vaccines

The number of American children suffering from life threatening peanut
allergies has doubled in the past five years and the number of Americans
with food allergies has risen from 6 million to 11 million. This runs
parallel with the doubling of asthma, learning disabilities, ADHD; the
tripling of diabetes and a 200 to 7,000 percent increase in autism in every
state in the U.S. during the past 20 years. As more and more vaccines are
mandated to prevent more and more infectious diseases in early childhood,
more and more Americans are stuck on sick. So the pharmaceutical industry
produces drugs and vaccines that medical doctors sell to patients to try to
"cure" the chronic illness that vaccines and suppression of all infectious
disease helped to cause in the first place. What a racket.
http://www.whale.to/a/nvic4.html

> PF
Jeff - 27 Nov 2004 03:13 GMT
>> No, you don't need to drive. You can ride a bike or walk. Thou
>> hypocrite.
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> disease helped to cause in the first place. What a racket.
> http://www.whale.to/a/nvic4.html

The only relationship between the increasing number of kids with athsma,
ADHD, etc., and vaccines is that dead kids don't get these illnesses. And
vaccines save lives.

Jeff
PF Riley - 27 Nov 2004 22:00 GMT
>> No, you don't need to drive. You can ride a bike or walk. Thou
>> hypocrite.
>
>What small island do you live on?

Ah, so you acknowledge that sometimes people do things even though
they may never be 100% safe because they expect to benefit from them.

>> And how many people die of choking every year in YOUR country? And
>> peanut allergy?
>
>Peanut allergy--let me guess, caused by vaccines

No, idiot. Peanut allergy is caused by roasting them.

PF
David Wright - 28 Nov 2004 17:45 GMT
>> No, you don't need to drive. You can ride a bike or walk. Thou
>> hypocrite.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>allergies has doubled in the past five years and the number of Americans
>with food allergies has risen from 6 million to 11 million.

That pretty much proves that vaccination is not responsible, since
there has been no major change in vaccination schedules over the past
five years.  John can sleep better tonight.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
      "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
          were standing on my shoulders."  (Hal Abelson, MIT)
 
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