India exporting nurses to UK and US
The Hindu
Thursday, September 23, 2004
Indraprasth, Sept.23 (Guardian News Service) -- From
hearsay and a single photograph, staff nurse Sabitha
Nambiar has a mental picture of Antrim, in the north of
Northern Ireland. It is soon to be her home and, in her
mind, it is very much like Shillong -- a hill station in
Meghalaya, north-east India's tea growing region -- with
Victorian bungalows, the world's wettest championship
golf course, and daily power cuts. All she knows for sure
are the maths. In Britain, nurses earn in one year what
in India takes them a decade to earn.
Before her night shift, over sweet tea, the din of car
horns and a monsoon downpour in central Delhi, Nambiar
explains that the idea of working in Britain came from
her cousin, a nurse who left India to work in a private
nursing home.
''My cousin in Surrey (south-east England) told me the
experience is better than working in India,'' she says.
''There's a higher standard of living. I also thought I'd
benefit from mingling with different sorts of people. I'm
totally ignorant about Ireland. I'm told it's not like
London. That it's much slower. That it's green and
pleasant.''
Nambiar, who is planning to arrive in Antrim by the end
of the year, is fast becoming the modern face of nursing
in Britain. Four years ago, just 30 Indian nurses were
registered to work in the UK.
Today, more than 2,000 have registered. For the UK's
health service (NHS), India is one of the main areas
where it can poach health workers.
Britain imports nurses because it does not have enough,
and because India, according to its government, has too
many -- more than 8 million today, against 3.8 million 10
years ago.
The country also has an edge over many other developing
nations; English is widely spoken and it has a ''youth
bulge'', with more than half the population under 30.
Getting to the UK is not easy. With guidance from her
cousin, Nambiar jumped with relative ease the two crucial
hurdles that enable Indian nurses to apply for jobs in
Britain -- provisional registration with the UK's Nursing
and Midwifery Council and achieving the necessary grade
in an international English language test.
While controversy in Britain over poaching nurses from
the developing world last month prompted health ministers
to accept that the NHS should leave sub-Saharan Africa's
scarce supply of health workers alone, India's nursing
workforce -- thanks to an intergovernmental agreement --
is still fair game. India has, officially, a surplus of
nurses. But even so, some hospitals are beginning to feel
the strain.
To work in the NHS, nurses need at least three years'
general nursing experience.
Several nursing directors in India stated that poaching
means hospitals are perpetually training nurses they
barely get to use. ''I feel we train them, then we lose
them,'' says Sudesh David, nursing superintendent of the
prestigious Christian Medical College hospital in
Ludhiana, Punjab.
In the past four years, the hospital has seen at least 50
of its 430 nurses go to the UK each year.
The migration of nurses may have costs for India's health
system, but it is also becoming big business. Outsourcing
and nursing labour are new corporate buzzwords.
Private hospitals are setting up companies for the sole
purpose of grooming Indian nurses for foreign export.
There has been a huge increase in the number of training
schools in India compared with a decade ago, when there
were only 60.
Companies have built centres and hired language and
cultural etiquette coaches to school local nurses in the
ways of developed world nursing. They are chasing
contracts -- big ones -- and making deals to supply
nurses to hospitals thousands of miles away.
One hospital group, Apollo Life, has contracted a company
that prepared IT and call centre workers to teach nurses
headed for the US in ''voice and accent neutralising'',
''presentation skills'' and ''dining etiquette''.
Britain, which has long dominated the poaching game, will
face stiff competition for nursing labour.
Among Indian nurses, the US is increasingly becoming the
country of choice. It grants them the elusive green card
and, it is believed, a better living standard than in
Britain.
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harmony - 23 Sep 2004 00:36 GMT
lot of depression going on uk after loss of loot opportunities.
> India exporting nurses to UK and US
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Dr. Jai Maharaj - 23 Sep 2004 03:30 GMT
> lot of depression going on uk after loss of loot opportunities.
Depressed Brits will increase the demand for head nurses.
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> Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
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Max Muir - 26 Sep 2004 03:35 GMT
usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote
> > lot of depression going on uk after loss of loot opportunities.
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> http://www.mantra.com/jai
> Om Shanti
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3590847.stm
"Suicide rates among young people in southern India are the highest in
the world, researchers say.
A study published in the British medical journal The Lancet says
family conflicts, domestic violence and mental illness are the most
common triggers.
The survey of 10- to 19-year-olds in the region around Vellore found
that the average rate for women was 148 per 100,000, and 58 per
100,000 for men.
The average suicide rate worldwide is 14.5 per 100,000."
rizvioct@optonline.net - 26 Sep 2004 03:51 GMT
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3590847.stm
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>The average suicide rate worldwide is 14.5 per 100,000."
Are you gloating Max?
Torpedo - 26 Sep 2004 14:46 GMT
Why? Saudis are exporting Pakis to Pakiland for your information.
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3590847.stm
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> Are you gloating Max?
Max Muir - 26 Sep 2004 16:49 GMT
"rizvioct@optonline.net" <rizvioct@optonline.net> wrote
usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote
=> In article <10l432i3rajua7e@corp.supernews.com>,
=> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
=> > lot of depression going on uk after loss of loot opportunities.
=>
=> Depressed Brits will increase the demand for head nurses.
=>
=> Jail Maharaj
=> http://www.mantra.com/jail
=> Om Shanti
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3590847.stm
> >
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> Are you gloating Max?
No, but I am very pleased to have rebutted Mummud Maharaj so
decisively, and see my suspicion that you will always defend
him from a British riposte confirmed.
Earlier, Indians were gloating about the happiness of Indians. You
see how some rhubarb about Indians being the 2nd happiest people in
the world was turned into an endorsement of Indian culture by your
gloating Indian Nationalist friends?
==
http://tinyurl.com/3ulj3
From: aryanviking@my-deja.com
Subject: Re: Americans and Indians world's happiest people!!! :-)
Date: 2000/07/07
Message-ID: <8k3t0d$5cv$1@nnrp1.deja.com>#1/1
>>Americans and Indians world's happiest people!!! :-)
>
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>-- partners !!!
==
From: mo201a@yahoo.com (Mo)
Subject: Re: Americans and Indians world's happiest people!!! :-)
Date: 2000/07/05
Message-ID: <jru85.5065$7l6.373131@nnrp3.clara.net>#1/1
References: <8jteje$s34$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
=Its only through interaction and exchange and understanding of each
=other that mankind can progress NOT through the mean vile acts of the
=Racist Rascals --- the world shoud learn such tolerance from America
=and
=India !!!
==
Which racists do you mean? Mummd Maharaj and Mummud Parekh look
pretty racist to me, Mo.
==
Jai Maharaj aka Jay Stevens.
From usenet@mantra.com Tue Aug 31 19:33:23 2004
Message-ID: <cJb4Z96nKyt1@gy068t2KFIonTs>
=>The English work? They'd rather steal, loot and plunder.
==
In soc.cultural.italian:
>In article <1005qtfj0h7nt10@corp.supernews.com>,
>"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
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>Jai Maharaj
==
Example 5.
Message-ID: <Bharat-22m8824f.20030113@news.mantra.com>
"The priority of the times was to get rid of the British barbarians."
Example 6.
Message-ID: <Bharat-21z77f.20030322@news.mantra.com>
"Mahatma Gandhi protested and the British barbarians
of the time were expelled from my motherland."
Example 7.
Subject: Re: BRIT SAVAGES OF THE PAST
<Bharat-16nw.20010724@news.mantra.com>
"What is your opinion of the British barbarians?"
==
==
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3b0959b9%40Orion&output=gplain
From: "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: UK Army Should Recruit Indians
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:19:28 -0500
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=Yes, you cold have; you all are fully capable of it.
=Europe has more than fair share of its ungrateful, unappreciative,
=sourpuss
=backstabbers. If y'll had to pay for all your wars from your own pockets,
=and pay back on marshall plan you all would still be digging ditches or
=picking cotton in my relatives' Alabama plantation. Can you all ever say
=thank you? No!!!
=
=Only good guys from there are the swedes.
==
From: ppt@viptx.net
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=Be weary of them beady eyes aussies.
=It may time for India to explode another nuke.
==
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=There go these whites again, fighting over a peace of bread.
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=They must not speak of Indians in the same breath (or sentence) with
=pakis and bds
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=The British govt ought to allocate $3bil to mommedan welfare programs and
=the rioting problem can be easily solved. In USA we have midnight
=basketball, for instance, which has resulted in significant decrease in
=crime rates in New Jersey and New York.
==
rizvioct@optonline.net - 26 Sep 2004 17:17 GMT
>=> In article <10l432i3rajua7e@corp.supernews.com>,
>=> "harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> posted:
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>decisively, and see my suspicion that you will always defend
>him from a British riposte confirmed.
It is a sad but true that in troubled times suicide rate go higher,
you can confirm this by looking at statistic during WWII.
Indians too see things about people living in the west and get
depressed by their own misery and helplessness.
>Earlier, Indians were gloating about the happiness of Indians. You
>see how some rhubarb about Indians being the 2nd happiest people in
>the world was turned into an endorsement of Indian culture by your
>gloating Indian Nationalist friends?
I don't know what standards are used to arrive at such conclusions but
I would have serious reservation about such numbers from any source.
Snoopy - 30 Sep 2004 17:21 GMT
> usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote
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> The average suicide rate worldwide is 14.5 per 100,000."
South Indian youth are probably depressed by the cultural and economic
authoritarianism of the Hindi belt, as amply exhibited in the postings
of Johnny Maharaj.