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Unusual type of depression,advice needed

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Arib - 29 Aug 2004 15:46 GMT
Hi everyone.I need some help and advice.About 5 years ago i suffered
from an extremely traumatic experience.This trauma lasted for roughly
9 months.Due to the length and intensity of it I began to feel
depressed.However this depression is not of the normal variety.I mean
I did not feel any melancholia/sadness,but felt the other physical
symptoms associated with depression:lack of energy,lack of
motivation,intense prolonged anxiety over otherwise normally trivial
worries,complete absence of sex drive,total inability to feel
emotions,such as anger and sadness, and a general inablity to feel any
physical/bodily pleasure.I think there is a name for this kind of
depression which manifests itself physically without any sadness.
I have been suffering from this for roughly 5 years,even though the
original trauma is over,my brain refuses to move on.What i want advice
on is the best type/combination of anti-depressants for this type of
depression.There are so many,from Prozac to Wellbutrin to Zoloft that
i'm very confused.I already have access to Bromocriptine tablets,and
would consider taking them in combination with any other tablets.
I know that some might advice me to see a doctor instead of posting on
google,but the reasons for me not seeing a doctor are quite
complicated and for now i am just getting an idea of what tablets
might be suitable for me.
Thanks a lot for reading my email and bye.
% - 29 Aug 2004 16:43 GMT
> Hi everyone.I need some help and advice.About 5 years ago i suffered
> from an extremely traumatic experience.This trauma lasted for roughly
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> might be suitable for me.
> Thanks a lot for reading my email and bye.

no matter how you slice it , you'll still have to see a doctor to get a
perscription for whatever you decide to take , so i won't suggest going to
see a doctor , but you will
Whiskers - 29 Aug 2004 18:32 GMT
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> I know that some might advice me to see a doctor instead of
> posting on google,but the reasons for me not seeing a doctor are quite
> complicated and for now i am just getting an idea of what tablets might be
> suitable for me.

Self-medicating will be more likely to make things worse than to help.

Why can't you go to a doctor - even a charity clinic?

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Lisa - 29 Aug 2004 21:20 GMT
You DO realize we're not doctors, right?
Hell, I'm not a beautician, so would you let me cut your hair? I have no
idea how to, but I've had my own hair cut a bunch of times!
If you want real treatment, go to a professional.

> Hi everyone.I need some help and advice.About 5 years ago i suffered
> from an extremely traumatic experience.This trauma lasted for roughly
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> might be suitable for me.
> Thanks a lot for reading my email and bye.
Hap Arnold - 30 Aug 2004 01:31 GMT
> You DO realize we're not doctors, right?

Speak for yourself.
My sock puppet can not only get me a good used car, but he tells me he can
practice medicine in 42 states.

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=^.^= - 30 Aug 2004 10:38 GMT
>You DO realize we're not doctors, right?
>Hell, I'm not a beautician, so would you let me cut your hair? I have no
>idea how to, but I've had my own hair cut a bunch of times!
>If you want real treatment, go to a professional.

yeah?  one almost got me into a hole in the ground

and another gave me stuff that was like bad acid

others don't believe in Schedule II, only naproxen

and still another would like to see what death from
benzo withdrawals would look like.  that ain't pretty

I've hozed Mr. Death off a couple of times and ain't
been pulled over by a cop in a decade. no licence

but I ain't gonna push whatever luck I have left...
Griffin - 29 Aug 2004 21:32 GMT
> However this depression is not of the normal variety.

Sure it is. You just don't know very much about depression, which also
probably explains your bizarre preoccupation with bromocriptine. Do
youself a *huge* favor: get off the computer and get to a doctor.
Emma Chase VanCott - 29 Aug 2004 21:42 GMT
In sci.med Arib <sawal_4500@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
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: I have been suffering from this for roughly 5 years,even though the

That is a long time to delay treatment.

: original trauma is over,my brain refuses to move on.What i want advice
: on is the best type/combination of anti-depressants for this type of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
: might be suitable for me.
: Thanks a lot for reading my email and bye.

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I have noticed that males seem to be very poor at seeking help for
depression. My pet theory is that this is a factor in why more of them
suicide. Shame and stubborness coupled with misunderstanding of the
illness.

If your kidneys were sick, you'd get help. Why is your brain organ any
different? Hmmm?

Long-term trauma SHOULD make you depressed, numb, anhedonic, etc. In
relative terms, your current state is a -=normal=- response.

Clinical depression is not treated by trained monkey writing a
prescription, or simply taking a medication. (Although meds are one tool.)

Self-treatment is highly ineffective and should be avoided -- even by
professionals. We are not objective enough.

Delays in treating mental illness make the prognosis and outcomes less
positive.

I understand that it may be hard, at first, to find someone you are
comfortable talking to.

If it is hard for you to disclose this stuff to male doctors [pride,
etc.], find a female doctor. If the first one is not a good personality
fit, find another.

Point: Don't neglect this. Get to a doctor NOW, and trust the process.

As I have heard said in addiction and mental health: "keep coming back"
[for support].

Take care,

Emma

dennis - 29 Aug 2004 19:03 GMT
I believe that in part it is because the more common symptoms we are
told to look for are extreame and prolonged sadness and unexplained
crying. (in those little dr office flyers)  in men the sympoms run
more towards anger and irritability.
Sawal_7432 - 30 Aug 2004 13:27 GMT
Hi all.Thanks to everyone who took the time to respond to my
question.Your posts have given me cause for thought.I think i
understand the reasons no one was willing to recommend any
type/combination of anti-depressants.The reason for not going to see a
doctor are complicated,but have a lot to do with typical male
reluctance to seek help.
Having said all that i'm still going to ask the same question:which
anti-depressant do you think would be the best for my illness?the
reason i ask this question again is because you ppl in this group have
had the chance to see a lot of different kinds of depression,and so
have a broad knowledge of the illness.So before i actually go and see
a doctor i just want to know the kinds of medicines he might
prescribe.I really hpe someone can help.Thanks and bye.
Griffin - 30 Aug 2004 13:39 GMT
> The reason for not going to see a doctor are complicated,but have a lot
> to do with typical male
> reluctance to seek help.

Get over it.

> Having said all that i'm still going to ask the same question:which
> anti-depressant do you think would be the best for my illness?

There's no right answer to that question. Assuming you have unipolar
depression and not something more complicated, most physicians would
start therapy with an SSRI (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor) -
e.g., Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, etc. There is no "right"
antidepressant for everyone, so I can't comment beyond that.
Whiskers - 30 Aug 2004 16:36 GMT
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> ask this question again is because you ppl in this group have had the
> chance to see a lot of different kinds of depression,and so have a broad
> knowledge of the illness.So before i actually go and see a doctor i just
> want to know the kinds of medicines he might prescribe.I really hpe
> someone can help.Thanks and bye.

An internet search engine will turn up that sort of information; however,
the first step is diagnosis - your symptoms may not be caused by a
Depressive illness.  Please, see a doctor.

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Emma Chase VanCott - 31 Aug 2004 05:53 GMT
In sci.med dennis <later@notnow.net> wrote:

: I believe that in part it is because the more common symptoms we are
: told to look for are extreame and prolonged sadness and unexplained
: crying. (in those little dr office flyers)  in men the sympoms run
: more towards anger and irritability.

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The DSM is moving towards recognizing "irritability" as a variant to
"sadness".

Emma

Ducky - 31 Aug 2004 10:25 GMT
> In sci.med dennis <later@notnow.net> wrote:
>
> : I believe that in part it is because the more common symptoms we are
> : told to look for are extreame and prolonged sadness and unexplained
> : crying. (in those little dr office flyers)  in men the sympoms run
> : more towards anger and irritability.

I have to agree with on this, for my husband suffers from it and he will
not go get help.
 
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