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'Radical Life Extension'  lecture by Ray Kurzweil, Chicago, August 22

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Leonid Gavrilov - 17 Jul 2004 03:17 GMT
Greetings,

Here is a new info on 'Radical Life Extension'  lecture by Dr. Ray
Kurzweil in Chicago on August 22:

"Immortality:
Three Bridges to Radical Life Extension"

Ray Kurzweil Ph.D., CEO & Founder of Kurzweil Technology, Wellesley,
MA
(for more details see the Congress website at
http://www.worldhealth.net/event/conf_program.php)

Ray Kurzweil is a legendary dynamo of human innovation. He's founded
nine businesses in everything from speech recognition to artificial
intelligence. Now Ray Kurzweil's restless mind is focused on human
life.

Immortality is just around the corner, according to Kurzweil. The
super-charged convergence of biology, computing, and nanotechnology,
he says, is about to radically extend human life. And it may be just a
matter of a couple of decades, not centuries, before the human
lifespan becomes essentially unlimited-- not 100 but many centuries.

[This is what I have found, not what I believe in ... yet ].

Kind regards,

-- Leonid Gavrilov
Author of the book "The Biology of Life Span"
http://longevity-science.org/index.html#Book
Wolfbrother - 17 Jul 2004 22:26 GMT
> Greetings,
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> matter of a couple of decades, not centuries, before the human
> lifespan becomes essentially unlimited-- not 100 but many centuries.

keep on dreaming.
Rob Colby - 20 Jul 2004 17:10 GMT
> Ray Kurzweil Ph.D., CEO & Founder of Kurzweil Technology, Wellesley,
> MA
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> intelligence. Now Ray Kurzweil's restless mind is focused on human
> life.

No offense to the great designer but programming neural nets and using
fuzzy logic et al doesn't translate into expertise on human biology
and longevity. Even though I'm in medical school, until I've actually
treated someone professionally, I'm just an apprentice on the
journeyman road and not a doctor. Kurzweil, as a software designer,
should realize the same thing.


> Immortality is just around the corner, according to Kurzweil. The
> super-charged convergence of biology, computing, and nanotechnology,
> he says, is about to radically extend human life. And it may be just a
> matter of a couple of decades, not centuries, before the human
> lifespan becomes essentially unlimited-- not 100 but many centuries.

I have a feeling that biologists with some biomed/chemical engineering
(i.e. drug delivery and tissue engineering) experiences will be the
first to extend life into the healthy 130-180 years range before any
of this nanotech hype delivers on Drexler's promises.
Joe Blow - 20 Jul 2004 20:03 GMT
>>Ray Kurzweil Ph.D., CEO & Founder of Kurzweil Technology, Wellesley,
>>MA
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> first to extend life into the healthy 130-180 years range before any
> of this nanotech hype delivers on Drexler's promises.

I see that you are well on your way to have learned that only
MDs have anything worthwhile to say.

Joe
Rob Colby - 21 Jul 2004 15:52 GMT
> >>Ray Kurzweil Ph.D., CEO & Founder of Kurzweil Technology, Wellesley,
> >>MA
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Joe

Actually, I'd said biologists with biomedical a/o chemical engineering
experiences in drug delivery and tissue engineering which would mainly
be comprised of masters and PhDs in those interdisciplinary areas. MDs
are only patient care custodians except for the MDs or MD/PhDs who
pursue research as a career path.
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS - 21 Jul 2004 15:54 GMT
>>>>Ray Kurzweil Ph.D., CEO & Founder of Kurzweil Technology, Wellesley,
>>>>MA
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> be comprised of masters and PhDs in those interdisciplinary areas. MDs
> are only patient care custodians

(!)

Steve

 except for the MDs or MD/PhDs who
> pursue research as a career path.
Joe Blow - 22 Jul 2004 19:03 GMT
> > >>Ray Kurzweil Ph.D., CEO & Founder of Kurzweil Technology, Wellesley,
> > >>MA
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> are only patient care custodians except for the MDs or MD/PhDs who
> pursue research as a career path.

I see.  Even with that clarification, I would hope that you would
not prejudge ideas originating outside of that clique.

Joe
tcomeau - 21 Jul 2004 21:43 GMT
> Greetings,
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Author of the book "The Biology of Life Span"
>  http://longevity-science.org/index.html#Book

The medical establishment can't even figure out basic nutrition, how
the hell are they going to figure out how to apply nanotechnology to
the human organism.

Well, this should make for a good science fiction novel anyways.

TC
Rob Colby - 22 Jul 2004 16:30 GMT
> The medical establishment can't even figure out basic nutrition, how
> the hell are they going to figure out how to apply nanotechnology to
> the human organism.

The medical establishment has turned a blind eye towards vitamins. In
other words, if one can't book revenue (a.k.a. insurance submission)
then one ignores it. An MRI machine, however, is extremely complex and
is widely used by doctors for soft tissue analysis and part of the
reason for it is that one can book $2000 per half-hour of scan time.

Realize, this is only one of the reasons why doctors, unlike regular
scientists and engineers, have near full employment and job security.
 
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