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Good Pulmonary Specialist in Newnan/Atlanta Area???
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John Jones - 13 Apr 2004 14:02 GMT Hello. Can anyone help with locating a good pulmonary specialist in the Newnan/Atlanta, Georgia area?
I'm having problems with my asthma again and there are tons in the area to choose from. I live in Newnan and there is a guy by the name of Vijay Patel here in town. Does anyone have an opinion of him?
I would be willing to travel for a good doctor, so any recommendations for a good pulmonologist in the south Atlanta area (Jonesboro, Fayetteville, Peachtree City, etc) would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks. John doobitup@yahoo.com
Joy - 13 Apr 2004 21:19 GMT John,
I know someone who went to him and was NOT happy. I can't recall the details, but she has a very complex case, so it could be there were just too many issues going on for anyone to really help her. If you do a web search, you will find some hits (hint, hint).
Not to discourage you, but there have been several requests for specialist information on this newsgroup over the years for the Atlanta area, and I have never seen a post where someone wanted to recommend an asthma doctor. I personally have seen several in Riverdale, Fayetteville/Peachtree City and Emory and I couldn't suggest any of them to you. It does seem that the better Docs in the Southern Crescent are associating themselves with Henry Medical Center, not Fayette or Newnan if you don't mind a drive and that is where I would start if I needed one again.
Joy
> Hello. > Can anyone help with locating a good pulmonary specialist in the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > John > doobitup@yahoo.com Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 14 Apr 2004 18:20 GMT > John, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > personally have seen several in Riverdale, Fayetteville/Peachtree City and > Emory and I couldn't suggest any of them to you. Who did you see at Emory?
> It does seem that the > better Docs in the Southern Crescent are associating themselves with Henry > Medical Center, not Fayette or Newnan if you don't mind a drive and that is > where I would start if I needed one again. Why Henry Medical Center, in your opinion?
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Joy - 14 Apr 2004 21:53 GMT Dr Chung,
Both my kids' Cardiologist (Dr McConnell also of Emory) and my ENT have moved to Henry and they are both good Docs. Do you know Dr McConnell? When my daughter had her last ambulance trip to the ER, the drivers told her they were glad she was not going to Fayette-that they didn't think the ER at Fayette was very good, but the one at Henry was.
I saw Dr Pine at Emory. He told he couldn't help me, and that no one could help me. Actually at the point I gave up seeing specialist because he was supposed to be the best. He did me a favor in a way. I ended up finding my own answer.
Joy
> > John, > > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Is this spam? > http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 14 Apr 2004 22:33 GMT > Dr Chung, > > Both my kids' Cardiologist (Dr McConnell also of Emory) and my ENT have > moved to Henry and they are both good Docs. Do you know Dr McConnell? No. Is s/he a pediatric cardiologist?
> When > my daughter had her last ambulance trip to the ER, the drivers told her they > were glad she was not going to Fayette-that they didn't think the ER at > Fayette was very good, but the one at Henry was. > > I saw Dr Pine at Emory. Yes, I know Dr. Jeffrey Pine. He's an intelligent man.
> He told he couldn't help me, and that no one could > help me. What was your diagnosis?
> Actually at the point I gave up seeing specialist because he was > supposed to be the best. Sorry to hear that your experience at Emory was suboptimal.
> He did me a favor in a way. I ended up finding my > own answer. Glad to hear that, Joy.
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Joy - 15 Apr 2004 14:39 GMT Dr Chung,
> No. Is s/he a pediatric cardiologist? Yes, his practice is Pediatric, but at Emory Dr McConnell sees adults with congenital heart problems.
> Yes, I know Dr. Jeffrey Pine. He's an intelligent man. I was aware, before my visit, that Dr Pine was very good, but lacked bedside manner.
> What was your diagnosis? My diagnosis was changed from asthma to Chronic Bronchitis when I saw Dr Pine. As a nonsmoker, I thought that unlikely, and additionally I had triggers like thunderstorms. On the other hand, I was spending hours each day standing over the garbage can coughing stuff up. So I don't know what I had. I was clearly going downhill.
> Glad to hear that, Joy. Thanks! I owe a great deal to Dr Hahn of Wisconsin for finding the answer. Joy
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 15 Apr 2004 17:29 GMT > Dr Chung, > > > No. Is s/he a pediatric cardiologist? > > Yes, his practice is Pediatric, but at Emory Dr McConnell sees adults with > congenital heart problems. That would be unusual. I don't believe I have ever met Dr. McConnell though I have met many of the pediatric cardiologists at Emory.
> > Yes, I know Dr. Jeffrey Pine. He's an intelligent man. > > I was aware, before my visit, that Dr Pine was very good, but lacked bedside > manner. I am sorry your experience with him was not optimal.
> > What was your diagnosis? > > My diagnosis was changed from asthma to Chronic Bronchitis when I saw Dr > Pine. As a nonsmoker, I thought that unlikely, and additionally I had > triggers like thunderstorms. That is interesting. Lightning does make ozone.
> On the other hand, I was spending hours each > day standing over the garbage can coughing stuff up. So I don't know what I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Thanks! I owe a great deal to Dr Hahn of Wisconsin for finding the answer. Then you know what you had, Joy.
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Joy - 15 Apr 2004 21:16 GMT Dr Chung,
> > > Yes, I know Dr. Jeffrey Pine. He's an intelligent man. > > > > I was aware, before my visit, that Dr Pine was very good, but lacked bedside > > manner. > > I am sorry your experience with him was not optimal. I don't mind. As I said before, it helped me in the end.
> > > What was your diagnosis?
> > My diagnosis was changed from asthma to Chronic Bronchitis when I saw Dr > > Pine. As a nonsmoker, I thought that unlikely, and additionally I had > > triggers like thunderstorms. > > That is interesting. Lightning does make ozone. When I first did Medline searches about asthma and Thunderstorms, the prevailing theory was that the downdrafts would concentrate molds and pollen at the ground and that was the reason that there is an upsurge in asthma related hospital admissions. Later searches though revealed some research was shifting to thinking Ozone was the cause. Now that makes more sense to me. For instance, you would never catch me in downtown Atlanta in the summer! I am wondering if I will have any trouble this year if I go on an ozone alert day. And then, I didn't have allergic asthma, so in theory, the molds and pollens probaby were not the trigger.
> > On the other hand, I was spending hours each > > day standing over the garbage can coughing stuff up. So I don't know what I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Then you know what you had, Joy. Some kind of infection for the last 10 years. Glad that is over!
Joy
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 16 Apr 2004 22:05 GMT > Dr Chung, > [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Some kind of infection for the last 10 years. Glad that is over! What was the infectious agent?
(Just curious)
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Joy - 17 Apr 2004 13:50 GMT > > Some kind of infection for the last 10 years. Glad that is over! > > What was the infectious agent? > > (Just curious) Dr Chung,
There isn't anyway to know at this point. I got better after long term antibiotics (Zithromax) prescribed for secondary infection related to severe Psoriasis. No tests were run which could allow me to definitively point to the agent. I assume that the infection was one of the two bugs being researched by National Jewish and Dr Hahn of U of Wisconsin.
http://www.njc.org/faculty/chu.html
http://www.dean.org/researchers/hahn.html
Joy
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 17 Apr 2004 21:23 GMT > > > Some kind of infection for the last 10 years. Glad that is over! > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Joy Interesting. How long were you on the azithromycin?
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Joy - 18 Apr 2004 01:09 GMT Dr. Chung
> Interesting. How long were you on the azithromycin? The first time, I took them as they were prescribed - one 250mg every 3 days. After 3 months I was able to go without asthma meds, but it didn't last. After 2 months without, I returned to being SOB much of the day and decided to take them as Dr Hahn suggests - once a week, 1000 mg. Actually, he prescribes a 3 month regimen, but I only required 6 weeks probably due to the fact that I had already been on the med previously. I have now been off asthma meds for 4 1/2 months.
The research at National Jewish started with 6 weeks of antibiotics and the patients with infections improved, but were not cured. It apparently seems to take 3 to 6 months. The original paper authored by Dr Hahn was published in the NEJM if you want to look it up.
Joy
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 18 Apr 2004 02:51 GMT > Dr. Chung > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Joy It is too bad you haven't updated Dr. Pine on your response to azithromycin (or have you?). I think he would be interested.
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Joy - 19 Apr 2004 02:40 GMT "> It is too bad you haven't updated Dr. Pine on your response to azithromycin (or
> have you?). I think he would be interested. Dr Chung,
I never even thought about it to be honest. I never really considered myself to be his patient since I only saw him once.
My twins are in one of the Cardiology research studies at the Prevention Institute of the Medical College of Georgia and I had the opportunity to visit there last week. I have to say it was quite an eye opener. The questionnaires they use are really odd. For instance, my twins answered no to every question on the stress test, but you have to understand that I don't feel that could even begin to result in an accurate assessment. The questions included "Has your brother ever gotten anyone pregnant?" and "Do you worry that your Mother Abuses alcohol?". They never asked have YOU gotten anyone pregnant or does your Father abuse you in any shape form or fashion. It is beyond me how they are going to end up with a reliable result quite frankly. I can imagine all kinds of stressful situations they failed to address in this questionnaire.
The study is designed to track black and white differences in the development of heart disease over a 30 year period (my Twins are going to hate me when they are 40 and still going in to run the treadmill). Basically, I am sure they are looking at us as the NOT STRESSED whites and are comparing us to the intercity STRESSED BLACKS. They consider our family income to be high not based on questions about what we make, but based on the level of education of the parents. That doesn't take into account many factors which effect disposable income such as a lingering illness and periods out of work. Based on what I know, I'd have to question any paper coming out of that study. Just thought you should know since it is in your area.
Joy
Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Apr 2004 03:05 GMT > "> It is too bad you haven't updated Dr. Pine on your response to > azithromycin (or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I never even thought about it to be honest. I never really considered myself > to be his patient since I only saw him once. That is all it takes :-)
> My twins are in one of the Cardiology research studies at the Prevention > Institute of the Medical College of Georgia and I had the opportunity to [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > coming out of that study. Just thought you should know since it is in your > area. Thanks for the heads up, Joy.
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Dr. Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 14 Apr 2004 18:03 GMT > Hello. > Can anyone help with locating a good pulmonary specialist in the > Newnan/Atlanta, Georgia area? Some good ones that I know in Atlanta:
Eric Hoenig, MD Gerald Staden, MD Alan Plummer, MD
> I'm having problems with my asthma again and there are tons in the > area to choose from. I live in Newnan and there is a guy by the name > of Vijay Patel here in town. Does anyone have an opinion of him? A good pulmonologist.
> I would be willing to travel for a good doctor, so any recommendations > for a good pulmonologist in the south Atlanta area (Jonesboro, > Fayetteville, Peachtree City, etc) would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks. You are welcome, John.
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Joy - 14 Apr 2004 22:05 GMT John,
Make sure you know why Dr Patel is no longer practicing in Woodstock and is in Newnan now instead and ask yourself if you are OK with that.
Joy
> > Hello. > > Can anyone help with locating a good pulmonary specialist in the [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Is this spam? > http://makeashorterlink.com/?N69721867 John Jones - 25 Apr 2004 22:13 GMT > John, > > Make sure you know why Dr Patel is no longer practicing in Woodstock and is > in Newnan now instead and ask yourself if you are OK with that. I've looked online to find what you're referring to and I can't. I'm no Sherlock Holmes, so if you have some information that another prospective patient should have, why don't you just email it to me??
Joy - 26 Apr 2004 02:21 GMT > > John, > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > no Sherlock Holmes, so if you have some information that another > prospective patient should have, why don't you just email it to me? Kathy Cox, the Sec of State and not the Cox from Fayette whose actions initiated the recent Jimmy Carter repute for attempting to redefine the definition of the theory of Evolution in religious terms, has a web site which covers licensing issues.
My suggestion is that you go to someone else - perhaps someone Dr Chung suggested. Dr Alan P seems the best bet to me. I just don't know what anyone can do to help you quite frankly. I am not insensitive to your plight - I can only tell you that I received nothing from seeing specialists in the Pulm area. Medicinal practitioners have inhaled steroids and bronchodilators and that is about it to offer you, and so if you are on those already......... Unless you have allergies. In which case, you would spend your time more wisely getting desensitized. Of course, if you have asthma, no one wants to go there.
John Jones - 26 Apr 2004 20:00 GMT > Kathy Cox, the Sec of State and not the Cox from Fayette whose actions > initiated the recent Jimmy Carter repute for attempting to redefine the > definition of the theory of Evolution in religious terms, has a web site > which covers licensing issues. I did find a profile for Dr. Patel at the Composite State Board of Medical Examiners website that was linked to Cathy Cox's licensure page (https://www.gaphysicianprofile.org/profile.ShowProfileAction.action?lic_nbr=035723).
It states that Dr. Vijay Patel has had no disciplinary action, no criminal convictions, no medical malpractice judgement arbitration awards, and no medical malpractice settlements.
So, again, I implore you to provide me with the INFORMATION (not hints) you say is pertinent---otherwise, please stop wasting my time.
Joy - 26 Apr 2004 21:06 GMT "John > So, again, I implore you to provide me with the INFORMATION (not
> hints) you say is pertinent---otherwise, please stop wasting my time. Should you visit Dr Vijay M. Patel, tell him about the Healthguides error.
Joy - 26 Apr 2004 18:14 GMT > > John, > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > no Sherlock Holmes, so if you have some information that another > prospective patient should have, why don't you just email it to me?? John,
Thanks for making me look that up. I am not sure my friend was right when she said the guy in the malpractice suit is the same as her doctor.
http://www.healthgrades.com/consumer/index.cfm?fuseaction=Mod&modtype=PRC&modact =prc_profile&hgid=HGPY25323F76875647053
Healthguides is all messed up, giving his middle initial as P and showing him practicing in Tenn and Newnan, while the Papp Clinic says the middle initial is M. I am now thinking she wrong about the Dr Patel at Papp being the same one as was in the lawsuit because I think they would know at Papp what the correct middle initial would be. Additionally, there is no Dr Vijay P. Patel listed with the AMA., but Dr Vijay M. Patel is. Sorry about the misunderstanding.
Joy
CBI - 27 Apr 2004 15:29 GMT > Thanks for making me look that up. I am not sure my friend was right when > she said the guy in the malpractice suit is the same as her doctor. Two thoughts:
1) Malpractice suits can take a long time to work their way through the system. A claim filed years ago may not have gotten to the point of an award yet. Alternately, he may have won.
2) There is a very poor correlation between malpractice suits and quality of care. Not that there isn't plenty of bad medicine being practiced out there- just that the suits don't seem to be targetted where they should be. So unless you know some specific information about what happened I wouldn't put much stock in one suit being filed. It probably says more about his bedside manner than his competance.
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Joy - 27 Apr 2004 16:22 GMT This one settled in 2002 for an undisclosed amount. The plaintiff alleged that they mixed-up her blood work-up with that of another patient, causing her to undergo an unnecessary and painful procedure..............You know the rest.
> > Thanks for making me look that up. I am not sure my friend was right when > > she said the guy in the malpractice suit is the same as her doctor. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > about what happened I wouldn't put much stock in one suit being filed. > It probably says more about his bedside manner than his competance. entropy@farviolet.com - 27 Apr 2004 17:00 GMT ["Followup-To:" header set to sci.med.]
> 2) There is a very poor correlation between malpractice suits and > quality of care. Not that there isn't plenty of bad medicine being > practiced out there- just that the suits don't seem to be targetted > where they should be. So unless you know some specific information > about what happened I wouldn't put much stock in one suit being filed. > It probably says more about his bedside manner than his competance. I've often had the impression most lawsuits are based on a lottery mentality than true harm. Part of it is probably also due to the lack of any sort of national insurance here. People get hit with huge medical bills, and are faced with either bankruptcy or they can take a gamble and sue.
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CBI - 29 Apr 2004 01:48 GMT > ["Followup-To:" header set to sci.med.] >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> about what happened I wouldn't put much stock in one suit being >> filed. It probably says more about his bedside manner than his
>> competance. > > I've often had the impression most lawsuits are based on a lottery > mentality than true harm. Part of it is probably also due to the lack > of any sort of national insurance here. People get hit with huge > medical bills, and are faced with either bankruptcy or they can take
> a gamble and sue. In this case I doubt she would have been seeing a specialist and have procedures if she was uninsured.
It does raise the issue of the problem with our current system. On the one hand, if the allegations are true, then the doc should be given some kind of incentive to do better going forward. On the other hand, I doubt the procedure was all that painful (I can't imagine what would be that a pulmonologist would be doing) and it doesn't sound like any true damage was done so it is hard to justify giving her a big cash reward (other than to punish the doc). The sytem should compensate the injured and discipline the docs as two seperate issues. This would accomplish both goals, do a bettr job of policing the docs if administered well, and reduce the lottery aspect of lawsuits.
 Signature CBI, MD
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