> Read last night that Lipitor garnered Pfizer over 19 billion dollars
> last year. That is ridiculous and a sign of the stupidity of modern day
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> that obesity is number one health problem and that Lipitor is not a
> decrease in obesity but a facilitator of obesity.
But _a priori_ it's possible that statins could decrease the incidence of
heart disease w/o decreasing the incidence of obesity.
> The real test of all cholesterol drugs is not one against another. But
> all cholesterol drugs against FASTING. Given a group of 5,000 people who
> eat cholesterol pills and a second group of 5,000 people who never eat
> any cholesterol pills but who constantly diet and FAST for 1 day or 2
> days in a row and who keep their weight _under 140lbs_
Huh?
You have to factor in likelihood of compliance for the two treatments (pills
and fasting).
> So the real science test is how many of the FASTing group lives beyond
> 75 years of age and how many of them die to heart troubles compared to
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> www.archimedesplutonium.com
> www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
> Read last night that Lipitor garnered Pfizer over 19 billion dollars
> last year. That is ridiculous and a sign of the stupidity of modern day
> humans.
How so? Aids treatments probably cost even more. Is that stupid too?
If one in the future reads that a drug company garnered 19
> billion dollars from a cholesterol pill one would think that people of
> the 21st century were lean slim and trim. But no, what the reality is
> that obesity is number one health problem and that Lipitor is not a
> decrease in obesity but a facilitator of obesity.
Spoken like a true circuitus moron.
> The real test of all cholesterol drugs is not one against another. But
> all cholesterol drugs against FASTING.
Ahh yes, here we go. You could read something about a dildo and eventually
bring it back to fasting.
Yeah. I guess if you take in NOTHING your cholesterol will drop, as will
your weight and health (if taken to extremes).
Given a group of 5,000 people who
> eat cholesterol pills and a second group of 5,000 people who never eat
> any cholesterol pills but who constantly diet and FAST for 1 day or 2
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> how many on Lipitor die before they reach 75 years of age. That is the
> real test.
How about we compare a group a fasters to a group of normal people, who eat
healthy diets daily, don't smoke, live in the country, and excercise
regularily. But that regime would be too strange for you - I'm sure you'd
prefer fasting.
> The drug companies are loathe to run this real test because they are
> laughing to the bank every year. And would you not be laughing all the
> way to the bank after being paid 19 billion dollars for sham medicine in
> my opinion.
Remember that whever YOU attach "in my opinio" to a statement it means
"according to my derranged perception of things".
It is also my opinion that modern day man and woman are as
> easily fooled and tricked as was snake oil buyers of the 19th century,
> for it is my opinion that all cholesterol drugs are just 21st century
> snake-oil-medicine.
Of course, you have independent clinical studies to support your DO
(derranged opinion).
> The guy from Harvard
thanks for the detailed reference.
who conducted the recent Lipitor versus Pravachol
> test should resign for in my
derranged opinion he is no man of science or medicine
> but a man of economic huckstering of the general public. Lipitor raises
> blood pressure and no cholesterol medication decreases obesity.
Does Lipitor at least lower cholesterol?
Fasting
> decreases obesity. And this man from Harvard who is pandering Lipitor
> and other cholesterol pills and who want to see everyone on the planet
> eating these pills should resign from medicine and from science. Fasting
> solves the problem.
>
> So get this man from Harvard to run a test comparing Lipitor to FASTing
How about you run a test comparing fasting to a dildo?.
> Archimedes Plutonium
> whose entire brain is just a dot
> www.archimedesplutonium.com
> www.iw.net/~a_plutonium
anon - 09 Apr 2004 23:47 GMT
> Ahh yes, here we go. You could read something about a dildo and eventually
> bring it back to fasting.
This guy is a classic tinfoil-hat nutbag. Why argue with him?
tech27 - 12 Apr 2004 02:29 GMT
> > Ahh yes, here we go. You could read something about a dildo and eventually
> > bring it back to fasting.
>
> This guy is a classic tinfoil-hat nutbag. Why argue with him?
I suspected that, but got sucked in anyway. I was just trying to see what
side of the "genius/insane line he was on.