my mistake, only 3 lb loss per day of Fasting Re: lose 25lbs or 11kg

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Archimedes Plutonium - 19 Feb 2004 02:29 GMT

Just returned from Doctors office and using a good scale I was weighed
at 149 lb which last Wednesday was 157 lb. So that is about a 3 lb
loss per day committed to Fasting.

I figured out the problem with my scale of Taylor spring scale as that
I was adjusting the spring ending up with the dial starting at 10 lbs
and thus when the dial read 141 lbs, I subtracted the 10 lbs thinking
that my true weight was 131 lbs when in fact it was closer to 151 lbs.
So I really need a gravity weight scale and throw out my spring scale
for they just are never accurate and they go heywire so easily.

So, I come to the conclusion that Fasting loses on average about 3 lbs
per day of Fasting. I want to get my weight down to 62 kg or 137 lbs
which at a rate of 3 lbs per day of Fasting means I have about 3 or 4
more days of Fasting to achieve my goal. Once at 137 lbs I will eat a
fraction of what I formerly ate.

I am very surprized as how directly related bloodpressure is to weight
and perhaps nervousness. For last Wednesday my bloodpressure was 156
and today it was 126 which is totally normal.

I feel I must stay in the 137 lb range because it is best for my
heart.

Archimedes Plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

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Silentotto - 19 Feb 2004 09:33 GMT

> Just returned from Doctors office and using a good scale I was weighed
> at 149 lb which last Wednesday was 157 lb. So that is about a 3 lb
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> and perhaps nervousness. For last Wednesday my bloodpressure was 156
> and today it was 126 which is totally normal.

You're right that there are a lot of things that can effect blood
pressure.

I once had a discussion with a doctor on the matter.

For example, he told me that a common problem amongst heavy drinkers,
not suggesting that you're such, was that knowing that they were going
to see the doctor the next day, they laid off the sauce the night
before their visit.

The next day, due to the sudden stoppage of alcohol, their blood
pressure would be through the roof.

If they stayed dry for a few days, or resumed drinking, either or,
their blood pressure would return to normal.

He suggested that the best thing to do before getting one's blood
pressure tested was to make certain that one does not deviate from
their normal routine.

Deviations from one's routine can cause inaccurate reading, both high
or low, depending on the nature of the change.

Due to your fasting, it's possible that the near normal reading you
just got isn't accurate after all, and that your fasting has caused an
abnormal drop in your blood pressure.

If I were you, I'd make an attempt to have it tested again once you
resume a normal routine.

> I feel I must stay in the 137 lb range because it is best for my
> heart.
>
> Archimedes Plutonium
> whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
> of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

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Archimedes Plutonium - 19 Feb 2004 16:54 GMT

> Due to your fasting, it's possible that the near normal reading you
> just got isn't accurate after all, and that your fasting has caused an
> abnormal drop in your blood pressure.
>
> If I were you, I'd make an attempt to have it tested again once you
> resume a normal routine.

Hi Otto, will do that. In the meantime I am rather embarrassed at ever
believing that a human can lose that much weight that quickly of say
16 lbs in one day of Fasting even if one runs a marathon in that day.
Does anyone have data as to how much weight a person can lose if they
run a Marathon plus Fasting. Is it more than 3 lbs?

Otto, I wonder if about the only way a person can lose 16 lbs in one
day is to be involved in an accident where blood loss is large.

I should have realized before I poste the 25 lb loss of 15 lbs and
then 10 lbs in 3 day fasting, I should have realized that human bodies
simply do not work that way and impossible to work that way where
weight loss can be so rapid. It is evolutionary commonsense that an
animal body weight cannot be lost so rapidly to endure periods of
famine so that the body can live through the famine and that the
entire species may have gone extinct if it were ever normal to shed 16
lbs per day of Fasting + Exercise.

So, has any Medical Research given the normal rate of weight loss due
to Fasting with Exercise, and Fasting without Exercise? Is it a
maximum of 3 lbs per day?

Today I stepped onto my lousy Taylor spring scale and I lost only 1 lb
since yesterday whilst on this Fasting. I am at 67 kg or 148 lbs.

On average I am guessing that Fasting plus Exercising loses only 1 Kg
per day or roughly 2-3 lbs per day. At that rate it would take me
about 5 more days of Fasting in order to get down to 140 lbs.

Otto, one of the purposes of my Doctor visit yesterday was to remove
some molds. So I wonder about Molds. I wonder since they are not viral
and since they are not bacterial, then molds must be something genetic
inheritence. Something in the DNA blueprint that results in molds. So
I wonder if identical twins ever get similar molds. Identical twins
have reverse fingerprints, for I heard that identical twins tennis
players have mirror image left armed and right armed.

So I wonder if molds are even more Unique to a given DNA than is
fingerprints? Sort of like saying "body fingerprint" that is a mold. I
am wondering about this concerning Molds because it would tie into the
theory of Aging where aging is the accumulation of cellular mistakes.
Whether a Mold is a outcome of a bunch of cellular mistakes or whether
a mold is an outcome of genetic DNA blueprint that a person is fated
to have the mold they have. I sense some connection between molds and
between the theory of Aging as accumulation of mistakes.

Archimedes Plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

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talkback - 19 Feb 2004 17:53 GMT

> Otto, I wonder if about the only way a person can lose 16 lbs in one
> day is to be involved in an accident where blood loss is large.

Draining all fluids should help. A litre of water weighs about 2.2 lbs.

So, has any Medical Research given the normal rate of weight loss due

> to Fasting with Exercise, and Fasting without Exercise? Is it a
> maximum of 3 lbs per day?

There's no need for it. The more water you expel, the more your weight
will drop (at the rate of 2.2lbs/litre). I doesn't matter if you are
urinating or sitting in an oven.

> Today I stepped onto my lousy Taylor spring scale and I lost only 1 lb
> since yesterday whilst on this Fasting. I am at 67 kg or 148 lbs.

Stop drinking water.

> Otto, one of the purposes of my Doctor visit yesterday was to remove
> some molds. So I wonder about Molds. I wonder since they are not viral
> and since they are not bacterial, then molds must be something genetic
> inheritence.

They are fungi. You can "inherit" them from, for example, physical contact.

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Archimedes Plutonium - 20 Feb 2004 07:09 GMT

I have gone off a complete Fasting to that of 1 small meal per day
wherein I eat 2 oranges, and eat a salad, plus either popcorn or
puffed rice cereal. Reason being is that I feel citric acid is
important for fear of catching a cold.

I suspect there is a direct relationship between the weight of food
eaten with how much weight gain potential to the body. So that a bowl
of puffed rice weighs almost nothing and so it should be almost
nothing as far as weight gain. Ditto for salads with vinegar dressing
in that salads once the water is removed weigh almost nothing and so
the potential for adding on weight from such foods is tiny. Where the
danger of gaining weight is food such as sugar and especially oils and
fats because there is no water to remove and so once these substances
enter the body, their original weight becomes incorporated into the
body weight. So a glass of water is pissed out but drinking a glass of
oil or eating fatty meats or fried foods is where the weight
translated directly into body weight gain.

While Fasting and Exercising for the past 3 days I lost 3 lbs per day
and am now about 147. I still want to get back to 137 lb or 62 Kg.
Instead of taking 3-4 days to achieve that, I will do it on this
Semi-Fasting where I eat one light meal per day and should arrive at
137 lb in 5-6 days rather than 3-4 days.

One thing nice about Fasting to lose weight is that when I walk
through a grocery store, there is no need to spend money because food
is the enemy. Really nice on the pocketbook.

Archimedes Plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

(www.iw.net/~a_plutonium) website of the science of AP under revision.

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Archimedes Plutonium - 20 Feb 2004 07:17 GMT

> Otto, one of the purposes of my Doctor visit yesterday was to remove
> some molds. So I wonder about Molds. I wonder since they are not viral
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> to have the mold they have. I sense some connection between molds and
> between the theory of Aging as accumulation of mistakes.

Gee, I seem to be making alot of errors in the past week. What with
thinking I had lost 16 lbs in one day of Fasting with Exercise when it
was only 3 lbs due to my lousy Taylor spring scale where I needed to
add 10 lbs to 140 and not subtract.

But now I made another bad mistake of calling moles as molds. I think
that is a common error done by many. Mole or melanocytic nevus is what
I had removed. I do not like bumps on my skin. I do not know why the
spelling of mole and mold had to be so similar for different
phenomenon, perhaps they thought moles were molds at some past time.

Archimedes Plutonium
whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies

(www.iw.net/~a_plutonium) website of the science of AP under revision

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