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John Spevacek - 17 Feb 2004 15:39 GMT
I'm looking for a 5 -10 cc syringe that has a highly tapered plunger.
The plungers on most syringes is only slightly angled (nearly 90
degrees). I would like to find something that is angled quite a bit
more.

I am aware of the tapered tips that can be added to syringes, and they
certainly help, but a tapered plunger would be better yet. I am trying
to expel a water/solid slurry (similar to unset concrete), and so
reducing/eliminating that 90 bend at the end of the syringe will
greatly increase the amount of material that I can get out, and also
reduce the required pressure.

A Luer-Lock end would also be helpful.

John
bob - 17 Feb 2004 21:25 GMT
> I'm looking for a 5 -10 cc syringe that has a highly tapered plunger.
> The plungers on most syringes is only slightly angled (nearly 90
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>
> A Luer-Lock end would also be helpful.

Is the device to be used as a manufacturing aid or as part of a
product? Is it possible for you to use something other than a syringe?
I used to work at a company that made syringes and everything I've
seen so far had pretty much the same style tip.

If this is a manufacturing aid you might want to look into automatic
dispensers and if it's part of a finished product I'd suggest looking
into bone cement dispensers.

I've checked out some of your past posts though and I have a feeling
you'd already considered these things if they were viable.

Good luck!
C A Brown - 17 Feb 2004 23:35 GMT
You might also look into dental lab impression materials dispensers.

> > I'm looking for a 5 -10 cc syringe that has a highly tapered plunger.
> > The plungers on most syringes is only slightly angled (nearly 90
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>
> Good luck!
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. - 18 Feb 2004 12:51 GMT
John,

I am having trouble picturing this ~ most plungers are 180 degrees ~
that is, in-line with the barrel ,,,,,, ,what am I missing here?

Wait! You mean like a funnel plunger as in a cake decorating thinggie
,,,,, right?

JOEL

>I'm looking for a 5 -10 cc syringe that has a highly tapered plunger.
>The plungers on most syringes is only slightly angled (nearly 90
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>
>John

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Mark Tarka - 18 Feb 2004 19:13 GMT
> John,
>
> I am having trouble picturing this ~ most plungers are 180 degrees ~
> that is, in-line with the barrel ,,,,,, ,what am I missing here?

That, under your scheme, the stuff comes back at ya.

> Wait! You mean like a funnel plunger as in a cake decorating thinggie
> ,,,,, right?

Also a rectilinear device...simple piston and outlet...
like a calking whachamacallit (can't say "gun" under
the "new rules")

> JOEL
[snip...]

For a "retired" practitioner (I did not say "dentist"),
your sig apparently is proportional to your ego  :-)

 Mark (Should we ask what the original poster's purpose is?)
Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. - 19 Feb 2004 13:32 GMT
Now I have to check my sig .... I forgot what it is .......

>> John,
>>
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>
>  Mark (Should we ask what the original poster's purpose is?)

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Joel M. Eichen D.D.S. - 19 Feb 2004 13:34 GMT
>> John,
>>
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>For a "retired" practitioner (I did not say "dentist"),
>your sig apparently is proportional to your ego  :-)

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Hey Mark!

I missed that. I use a pretty standard disclaimer, no?

By the way, its necessary because of the fact that some people who
read what I write are not in Pennsylvania, the only state where I am
currently licensed.

JOEL

>  Mark (Should we ask what the original poster's purpose is?)

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Mark Tarka - 19 Feb 2004 19:44 GMT
> >> John,
> >>
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>
> JOEL

Hey.  Thanks for not top-posting.
Much easier to comprehendito.

I probably should get my lawyers to put
together a disclaimer for me.  So far, all
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protect me:

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Maybe I should start out by saying, just because I post
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Naw...I have servants that can do that  :-)

 Mark
Bruce Hamilton - 19 Feb 2004 19:11 GMT
>I'm looking for a 5 -10 cc syringe that has a highly tapered plunger.
>The plungers on most syringes is only slightly angled (nearly 90
>degrees). I would like to find something that is angled quite a bit
>more.

Have you looked at the disposable medical plastic syringes?.
The different manufacturers seem to have some variations of taper and
most have luer lock needle connections. The 5ml ones we use have a
plunger that has a 90 degree tip ( <=== ) with mating body end, and
anything with a smaller angle may be likely to result in material
breaking the plunger/wall seal.

Bruce Hamilton
 
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