>Hello.
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>thanks
>Michael
>>Hello.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
>Paul
If there is neurological deficit (specific muscle weakness, reflex
change, and/or sensory loss) and nonsurgical treatment (traction,
medicines, physical therapy) has not been effective; and if the level
of the disc compression agrees with the neurological deficit, surgery
is indicated.
Properly chosen, and properly done, such surgery is effective in 90%
of cases. Make sure that the surgeon is experienced; usually that
means a Board-certified neurosurgeon.
Best,
Bob
Robert A. Fink, M.D., FACS, P. C.
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, California 94704-2636 USA
Telephone: 510-849-2555
FAX: 510-849-2557
<http://www.rafink.com>
"Ex Tristitia Virtus"
--------------------------------------
NOTE: The above message is not to be considered as
"medical advice". Medical advice can be given only
after a "hands-on" examination of the patient by a
physician.
========================================
KyroDoc - 21 Feb 2004 20:50 GMT
>If there is neurological deficit (specific muscle weakness, reflex
>change, and/or sensory loss) and nonsurgical treatment (traction,
>medicines, physical therapy) has not been effective; and if the level
>of the disc compression agrees with the neurological deficit, surgery
>is indicated.
Not sure I agree with the loss of reflex/sensory loss in of itself being a
criteria for surgery Bob.
Intractable pain failing ALL courses of conservative care...Yes...progressive
muscle deficit that is unresponsive to ALL methods of conservative
care...certainly...loss of bowel/bladder function...absolutely.
Finf yourself a skilled, reputable
(insert wise crack here Jeff) :o)
chiropractor young man.
Onre that is who uses non rotational maneuvers.
DC
anon - 21 Feb 2004 21:05 GMT
> Finf yourself a skilled, reputable (insert wise crack here Jeff) :o)
> chiropractor young man.
I'll save the wisecracks. Most herniated discs will regress on their
own, given enough time and proper conservative therapy. If all else has
failed and you're ready to try chiropractic, see your family doctor for
a recommendation. Most F.P.s can recommend a good chiropractor in your
area if it's appropriate. Any safe, conservative treatment is worth a
try before having surgery for your back pain.
KyroDoc - 23 Feb 2004 01:04 GMT
>From: anon anon@anon.com
>Date: 2/21/2004 4:05 PM Eastern
>Most herniated discs will regress on their
>own, given enough time and proper conservative therapy.
agreed>See your family doctor for
>a recommendation.
Mmmmm....Disagree.
Most FP's have no clue about chiropractic or their role in helping patients
with bad discs...although the new generation of MD's want to know more.
There are a tremendous number of patients being managed medically for a variety
of problems who should have been to the chiropractors office first.
Although it wouldnt hurt to ask your FP I'd ask fellow workers, family members
etc. for a recc. of a good DC....one who doesnt use torsional forces when
adjusting the spine.
Good Luck!
anon - 23 Feb 2004 01:24 GMT
> There are a tremendous number of patients being managed medically for a variety
> of problems who should have been to the chiropractors office first.
I'm sure you think so. Not everyone would agree with you, however.
Interested parties may want to visit http://www.chirobase.org to
educate themselves.
Steven Bornfeld - 23 Feb 2004 03:00 GMT
>> There are a tremendous number of patients being managed medically for
>> a variety
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Interested parties may want to visit http://www.chirobase.org to educate
> themselves.
You're very, um diplomatic! ;-)
Steve
KyroDoc - 25 Feb 2004 12:07 GMT
>From: Steven Bornfeld
>I'm sure you think so. Not everyone would agree with you, however
There are exactly 4 who do not
That buffoon Steven Barrett, William Jarvis the x chiropractor affiliated with
that malicious website who simply couldnt cut it in practice so he started
doing insurance work and you :o)