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Medical Forum / General / General / February 2004Psychiatric drugs change the outcome of trails!
I did some more legal reading and found below in regards of anti-psychoric drugs. The cases were mainly about that the government has no right to force psychiatric drugs on anybody, esp. not anybody not violent and how much those drugs change the personality and endanger people. I believe the same applies also for people that are not waiting for a trail or are incarcerated. Psychiatric drugs are dangerous, might they be anti-psychiatric drugs or anti-depressants or whatever drugs. The FDA currently is investigating in anti-depressants drive kids into suicide. I can't imagine that they are only dangerous to children. Other ways must be found to handle those problems. Most importantly, psychiatry failed to investigate that those "disorders" are man-made, and how they are being man made. They don't investigate as secret mindcontrol, talking into people's subconcious minds to make them depressed, hyperactive, crazy and whatever, is also a psychiatric invention. It is a fundamental assumption of the adversary system that the trier of fact observes the accused throughout the trial. At all stages of the proceedings, the defendant's behavior, manner, facial expressions, and emotional responses, or their absence, combine to make an overall impression on the trier of fact. The side effects of antipsychotic drugs may alter demeanor in a way that will prejudice all facets of the defense. Serious due process concerns are implicated when the government manipulates the evidence this way. Moreover, "[t]he side effects of antipsychotic drugs can hamper the attorney-client relation, preventing effective communication and rendering the defendant less able or willing to take part in his defense. The State interferes with this relation when it administers a drug to dull cognition." Riggins, 504 U.S. at 143-44 (Kennedy, J., concurring) at 144. If the antipsychotic medications forcibly administered to a Defendant cause him to be unable to express remorse for his actions or to control his facial expressions at trial, or to fully communicate with his attorneys, the fairness of the trial may rightly be doubted. Id. at 144. Because these potential effects on the pretrial detainee call into question the fairness of the trial, the government's interest in a fair and impartial trial is compromised. More importantly, because the government's interest is in administering a fair and impartial trial, the government should be required to bear the burden of demonstrating that its forcible administration of antipsychotic drugs on a pretrial detainee for the purpose of restoring his competency will not cause the types of side effects discussed above that could result in a prejudiced trial. If the government cannot make such a showing, then it has failed to assert a compelling government interest that violates the pretrial detainee's fundamental rights. Barbara Schwarz (the only real one) P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identities "Barbara_Schwarz", "the real Barbara Schwarz de Rothschild" and "Truth Speaker 2" are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected, gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff who is a fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. Scarff persecutes me from thread to thread often using my name as identity for those crimes (!) and verbally assaults me, threatens me, harasses me, sexually harasses me, tries to intimidate me, libels, insults and lies about me. He also lied that he spoke to a roomate of mine in the Utah mental health hospital. I never was in that hospital, but he probably escaped from one. Scarff is active member of the gay WeHo "church", that according to Scarff applaudes Scarffs lawless behavior against me. An ex-WeHo member wrote me that this "church" sanctions and promotes dishonorable behavior and that he and his friends were raped and drugged by one of their active members, and that one of their active members murdered others under the guise of "drug overdose". The ex-WeHo wrote that the gay men make sexual innuendo during sermon and "church" leadership doesn't see what's wrong with that. ---------------------------------------------- Linda Anderson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html Gerald Armstrong http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html Jim Beebe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html Graham Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html David Bird http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html Tory Christman http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html Ursula Caberta http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html Ida Camburn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html Joe Cisar http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html Robert Clark http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html Mark Dallara http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html Steven Fishman http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html Phil Georgi http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html Scott Goehring http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html Roger Gonnet http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html Barbara Graham http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html Gregg Hagglund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html Steve Hassan http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html Tilman Hausherr http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html Keith Henson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html Deana Holmes http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html Patrick Jost http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html Charlotte Kates http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html Rod Keller http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html Steven Kent http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html Arnie Lerma http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html Joe Lynn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html Ted Mayett http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html Frank Oliver http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html Kady O'Malley http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html Zenon Panoussis http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html Ted Patrick http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html Michael Pattinson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html Jesse Prince http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html David Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html Fred Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html Rick Ross http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html Karin Spaink http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html David Touretzky http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html Alan Walter http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html Grady Ward http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html Johan Wevers http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html Larry Wollersheim http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html Sten-Arne Zerpe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html -- http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org -- Rubbish! Drugs can help those who need help :: I did some more legal reading and found below in regards of :: anti-psychoric drugs. The cases were mainly about that the government [quoted text clipped - 183 lines] :: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org :: -- Well them take them yourself (probably do) cause you need help man if you think psych meds help anyone. Nelson > Rubbish! Drugs can help those who need help > [quoted text clipped - 185 lines] > :: http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org > :: -- > Well them take them yourself (probably do) cause you need help man if you > think psych meds help anyone. > Nelson Don't expect much of a Vodoo man or woman, Nelson. One day it will be proved that Vodoo is a secret arm of psychiatry and same effective. :) Barbara Schwarz (the only real one) P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identities "Barbara_Schwarz", "the real Barbara Schwarz de Rothschild" and "Truth Speaker 2" are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected, gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff who is a fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. Scarff persecutes me from thread to thread often using my name as identity for those crimes (!) and verbally assaults me, threatens me, harasses me, sexually harasses me, tries to intimidate me, libels, insults and lies about me. He also lied that he spoke to a roomate of mine in the Utah mental health hospital. I never was in that hospital, but he probably escaped from one. Scarff is active member of the gay WeHo "church", that according to Scarff applaudes Scarffs lawless behavior against me. An ex-WeHo member wrote me that this "church" sanctions and promotes dishonorable behavior and that he and his friends were raped and drugged by one of their active members, and that one of their active members murdered others under the guise of "drug overdose". The ex-WeHo wrote that the gay men make sexual innuendo during sermon and "church" leadership doesn't see what's wrong with that. Frederic Rice, another fierce David Touretzky defender, posted also with the stolen identity de Rothschild. He is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man. He threatened governmental officials over the Internet, wants to celebrate when both President Bush's are dead and has tips on his website on how to kill bikers. His brother David Rice, posts with "Dr." or "Reverend" Desertphile and also with the stolen identity de Rothschild. He suggested to kill members of the FBI. (Go to www.religiousfreedom.watch.org, the extremist pages on David Touretzky, page 9, his connections and click on the PDF file.) Dave Rice also posted a long time with the identity "Prozac filled gay terrorist psycho", which tells a lot about him. Barbara Graham Warr, self-proclaimed "caplain" of the A.R.S. newsgroup and snakepit, another David Touretzky promoter, is a DUI offender and pleaded guilty to possession and manufacturing of prohibited weapon under California penal code. She congratulated the WeHo "congregation" accepting Scarff's criminal behaviors against me. However, she posted before that there is no God. She also posts with stolen identity de Rothschild. - For more, click on the below links. ---------------------------------------------- Linda Anderson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html Gerald Armstrong http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html Jim Beebe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html Graham Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html David Bird http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html Tory Christman http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html Ursula Caberta http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html Ida Camburn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html Joe Cisar http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html Robert Clark http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html Mark Dallara http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html Steven Fishman http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html Phil Georgi http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html Scott Goehring http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html Roger Gonnet http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html Barbara Graham http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html Gregg Hagglund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html Steve Hassan http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html Tilman Hausherr http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html Keith Henson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html Deana Holmes http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html Patrick Jost http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html Charlotte Kates http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html Rod Keller http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html Steven Kent http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html Arnie Lerma http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html Joe Lynn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html Ted Mayett http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html Frank Oliver http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html Kady O'Malley http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html Zenon Panoussis http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html Ted Patrick http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html Michael Pattinson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html Jesse Prince http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html David Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html Fred Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html Rick Ross http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html Karin Spaink http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html David Touretzky http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html Alan Walter http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html Grady Ward http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html Johan Wevers http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html Larry Wollersheim http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html Sten-Arne Zerpe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html -- http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org -- Psychiatry is the worst delusion of all, and the drug Olanzapine doesn't work either. Who would have guessed? :) The Eighth Circuit recognized that "we cannot say with 100% certainty whether Sell will regain competency with this treatment." Dr. Wolfson testified that he had not been successful in restoring competency to patients with the drug Olanzapine. Nevertheless, this is one of the two drugs that he suggested as treatment for Dr. Sell. (He is a dentist.) Dr. Sell has been diagnosed with the persecutory subtype of delusional disorder. The Eighth Circuit described his diagnosis as follows: Delusional disorder is characterized by the presence of one or more nonbizarre delusions that persist for at least one month. The delusions are generally plausible ideas that can conceivably occur in real life. The persecutory subtype of delusional disorder is characterized by a person's belief that he is being conspired against, cheated, spied on, followed, poisoned or drugged, malicioulsy maligned, harassed, or obstructed....282 F.3d at 563, n.3 (emphasis supplied; citations omitted.) It is a supreme irony that it is in order to relieve Dr. Sell of such delusions that the government proposes to forcibly inject him with antipsychotic drugs would be placed at risk of the dangerous, potentially life-altering and even deadly side-effects of the medications as well as having his mental state chemically altered. The government should not be allowed to force Dr. Sell to bear the burden of these risks. What is also odd is that conspiracies and crimes against people indeed exist. If a governmental official, a judge, a psych come themselves to the wrong conclusion, they say that they erred. Other people are being declared "delusional". Why are they are not allowed to err? People may assume something false for more than a month, nevertheless they still might just err. Moreover, if the psychs label people delusional, several will be afraid to report certain criminal activities as they don't want to be called delusional and don't want the psychs comming after them. However, the worst delusion of all is that psychiatry is a real science and heals people. Barbara Schwarz (the only real one) P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identities "Barbara_Schwarz", "the real Barbara Schwarz de Rothschild" and "Truth Speaker 2" are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected, gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff who is a fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. Scarff persecutes me from thread to thread often using my name as identity for those crimes (!) and verbally assaults me, threatens me, harasses me, sexually harasses me, tries to intimidate me, libels, insults and lies about me. He also lied that he spoke to a roomate of mine in the Utah mental health hospital. I never was in that hospital, but he probably escaped from one. Scarff is active member of the gay WeHo "church", that according to Scarff applaudes Scarffs lawless behavior against me. An ex-WeHo member wrote me that this "church" sanctions and promotes dishonorable behavior and that he and his friends were raped and drugged by one of their active members, and that one of their active members murdered others under the guise of "drug overdose". The ex-WeHo wrote that the gay men make sexual innuendo during sermon and "church" leadership doesn't see what's wrong with that. ---------------------------------------------- Linda Anderson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html Gerald Armstrong http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html Jim Beebe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html Graham Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html David Bird http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html Tory Christman http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html Ursula Caberta http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html Ida Camburn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html Joe Cisar http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html Robert Clark http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html Mark Dallara http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html Steven Fishman http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html Phil Georgi http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html Scott Goehring http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html Roger Gonnet http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html Barbara Graham http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html Gregg Hagglund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html Steve Hassan http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html Tilman Hausherr http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html Keith Henson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html Deana Holmes http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html Patrick Jost http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html Charlotte Kates http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html Rod Keller http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html Steven Kent http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html Arnie Lerma http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html Joe Lynn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html Ted Mayett http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html Frank Oliver http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html Kady O'Malley http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html Zenon Panoussis http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html Ted Patrick http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html Michael Pattinson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html Jesse Prince http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html David Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html Fred Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html Rick Ross http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html Karin Spaink http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html David Touretzky http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html Alan Walter http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html Grady Ward http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html Johan Wevers http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html Larry Wollersheim http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html Sten-Arne Zerpe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html -- http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org -- |
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