Posted the below several days ago. I suspect the Pitts. compound is
not open for discussion as to what it is due to legal patentability.

Just yesterday on PBS of "Ask this old house" was a look into tap
water in some region of Massachusetts and that the brown stain was
mostly Manganese compound in the drinking water.

So, is manganese and especially MagneticManganese so all pervasive in
modern society?

Can someone tell me if Germany when Doctor Alzheimer made the first
discovery of this disease on a women patient named Auguste (excuse the
spelling). Question: was tap water in Germany at that time a new
social phenomenom, unlike well water. And does modern day tap water
from cities in the industrial world concentrate manganese and
especially magnetic-manganese?

Perhaps Alzheimers disease is the result of modern day tap water with
its overload of Manganese compounds and especially magnetic-manganese?
So, is there a European country whose people drink water that is
manganese removed and do they have a low incidence of Alzheimers?

Anyone who has experienced bathtub rings and glass stains because of
the tap water could well appreciate that their bodies drink that water
every day and that although the body does not have dirty rings or
stains, nevertheless the body needs to rid itself of the constant
daily input of unwanted chemicals.

Yes, humans are living longer, but they are also accumulating unwanted
chemicals in their bodies longer.

In that TV program on PBS on Alzheimers it pictorially sketched out
the APP protein and how the cell scissors normally cuts the protein,
and how in Alzheimers that scissors becomes roguish and cuts the APP
in 2 segments where the tiny segment is toxic and becomes beta amyloid
plaque. So the immediate question is whether a brain that takes in
MagneticManganese can alter the Scissors so much that the scissors
starts to cut APP abnormally and thus creates the disease of
Alzheimers.

Subject:
             Pittsburgh compound deal with Mn ?? Re: metal-ions cause
modern diseases of Alzheimers, Parkinson, Prion
        Date:
             21 Jan 2004 20:03:41 -0800
       From:
             a_plutonium@hotmail.com (Archimedes Plutonium)
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    delcrow@uniserve.com (Del Crow) wrote in message news:<6b500d90.0401211029.1e6390e5@posting.google.com>...
    (snipped)
    >
    > #### Hi, Archi.....Theoretically, because the governments are
hedging
    > on testing for BSE, and the similarity between the human slow
    > neuromuscular diseases are not a popular place for
pharmaceutical
    > cartels to fund transparent research, I suggest that a lot of
    > spontaneous remissions are possible by (1) avoiding manganese
    > pollution, specially where the manganese might have been
electrified
    > or triggered otherwise into its magnetic state; ferromagnetic
    > manganese in drinking water probably causes a black film on
electric
    > kettles and, if you get that, certainly do not microwave with
the same
    > water source.(2) checking ones diet for reasonable intake of
copper is
    > a must; excess copper usually causes symptoms like migraines
(3)don't
    > forget that all the trace minerals have their proper bodily
functions,
    > though there is adjustment and cellular memory involved.
Coenzyme Q10
    > (CoQ10)and Acetyl L-Carnitine should be included in any
    > neuromusculature treatment schedules which one might consider
adding.
    >
    > There are probably lots of cows being slaughtered with
low-grade BSE.
    > Catching CJ from low-grade BSE from eating it, if a person is
    > fortified with a reasonable balance of vitaminns and minerals
is
    > probably quite unlikely.
    >
    > The "inclusion bbodies" probably, even with a core of magnetic
    > manganese would have something of a size limit, being able to
directly
    > "stick" a limited number of iron molecules.
    >
    >  I have to disagree with Bob. Magnetic forcefield is so much
greater
    > than the electron transfer fields in the mitochondrial
functions that
    > it IS more likely than he thinks that the mitochondria is
affected,
    > and oxygen transfer suffers as iron movement is affected.  
Del Crow
    > ######

    Hi DelCrow, I just finished watching Alzheimers profile on PBS. I
    assume the schedule of PBS stations for the 50 states of the USA
are
    about the same and that all 50 states aired this Alzheimers
program
    tonight.

    Anyway I was an intriguing model for the progression of that
disease
    when the APP protein is clipped normally and when it is clipped
    abnormally and results in disease. In that the APP protein when
    abnormally clipped is clipped into 2 segments and the tiny
segment
    goes off toxic and is the beta amyloid.

    So I wonder if in Prion disease a similar sort of model follows
where
    the prion protein is sort of like this protruding out protein
that
    should be clipped but in Prion disease an abnormal clipping may
    result. I just wonder if that clipping model from Alzheimers
transfers
    across to Prion disease. But of course no-one actually knows what
the
    prion protein function is, unlike APP protein where its function
is
    somewhat better known.

    I gain the sense that perhaps prion disease is just a milder form
of
    Alzheimers and this would be especially true if the function of
prion
    protein is anyway similar to the function of APP in Alzheimers.

    DelCrow-- from watching that program I was hoping to make some
sort of
    link with magnetic Manganese and the research to date on
Alzheimers.
    It was mentioned that a University of Pittsburg team of
researchers
    pursued a compound that stuck to the amyloid plaques, was able to
    trespass the blood-brain-barrier, stick to the plaques briefly
and
    then exit. I wonder if the Pittsburgh compound has anything to do
with
    Manganese, and especially magnetic manganese?

    From looking at the Periodic Chart of Chemical Elements I see
iron
    surrounded by not only Mn but also Re, Os, Ru, Rh, and Co. So I
wonder
    whether these metals have ions and magnetic ions. I also wonder
    whether Iron itself has metal ions that are magnetic and whether
they
    are toxic to brain tissue.

    From watching this program, I wonder how Magnetic Manganese
*could
    cause* Alzheimers. Perhaps when the molecular shears or clippers
or
    scissors to cut the APP protein is deformed by magneticmanganese.
In
    this way the disease is caused both genetically in that certain
    scissors are vulnerable and by environment when magnetic
manganese
    gets into the body.

    Archimedes Plutonium
    whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots
    of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies