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Truth Speaker - 07 Jan 2004 23:52 GMT Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a lot of legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much stressed to respond adequately. :)
There is ...a sphere within which the individual may assert the supremacy of his own will and rightfully dispute the authority of any human government, especially of any free government existing under a written constitution, to interfer with the excercise of that will. Jacobsen v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 29 (1905).
(Not Jeff Jacobsen, he doesn't write smart, but he could be that old, probably wearing Depends and that gave him perhaps the idea to dramatize Gandhi.)
A person's intellect is surely within that protected sphere. The right of a person to liberty, autonomy and privacy over his or her own thought process is situated at the core of what it means to be a free person. It is essential to the most elementary concepts of human freedom, dignity, and self-expression, and demands this court's steadfast protection. The right to sovereignty over one's own thought processes is the quintessence of freedom, and is protected by the First Amendment.
This is important for the people to know, who scream that I should be forcefully medicated, and committed, because I dare to speak my mind. ARS extremist and friends, can you follow? Try at least...
The First Amendment protects communciation of virtually all kinds whether in writing, verbal, pictural, or any symbolic form, and whether cognitive or emotive in nature.
The First Amendment, declared by the court in West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), gives a constitutional preference for "individual freedom of mind" over "officially disciplined uniformity for which history indicates a disappointing and disastrous end".
Professor Thomas Emerson said in The System of Freedom of Expression 21-22: "Forming or holding a belief occurs prior to expression. But it is the first stage in the processes of expression, and it tends to progress into expression. Hence safeguarding the right to form and hold beliefs is essential in maintaining a system of freedom of expression. Freedom of belief, therefore, must be held included within the protection of the First Amendment.
We can have intellectual individualism and the rich cultural diversities that we owe to exceptional minds only at the price of occasional eccentricity and abnormal attitudes. 319 U.S. 624.
Do you hear that Karin Spaink who talks people into committing suicide? Abnormal attitude...
I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the exceptional mind, while you hecklers have the kind of remaining kind of minds.
Are you still with me, Tory Christman, Tigger, Sally Goodman, Frederic Rice, Garry Scarff and all the other people that live in the dark? I know you have a hard time understanding that, but apply L. Ron Hubbard's study technology and things will become clearer. :)
And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric drugs. These drugs "alter the chemical balance in a patient's brain, leading to changes...in his or her cognitive processes". Harper, 494 U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your drugs you can't have the cognitions that you need to turn your life around and to become truly something worth.
"...the physical and mental side effects of the drugs might be unacceptable, even dangerous". Harper, 494 U.S. at 238. Even in the absence of physical and mental "side effects" the fact remains that anti psychotic drugs strongly affect thought processes.
It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental illness; rather they suppress the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed 2001).
If that is not enough reasons to spit that stuff out, but be careful when Garry Scarff spits, he has AIDS.
By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her will, the government is commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly changing his or her alibity to formulate particular thoughts. In re Guardianship of Roe, 421 N.E.2d 40, 52-3 (1981), ("the impact of the chemcials upon the brain is sufficient to undermine the foundation of personality.)
Are you now finally a bit smarter, Dave Touretzky, Arnie Lerma, Roger Gonnet and Barb Graham Warr?
The First Amendment protects the communication of ideas, which itself implies protection of the capacity to produce ideas. Antipsychiotic drugs have the capacity to severly and even permanently affect an individual's to think and communicate. Bee, 744 F2d at 1393-94.
That's why so many ARS posters post as they have an impaired brain and mind. They pop those stupid and dangerous drugs.
Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely and frequently on what constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and symptoms, on cure and treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis & Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins in the courtroom, 62 Cal. L. rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974).
See, Joe Lynn, you and the other extremists below were just lucky that you are not in an institution forcefully medicated. Hey, and think about Dave Bird roaming streets with his pants down!
There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results in a "massive curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504, 509.
No, that is not Kady O'Malley, but her actions are pretty crazy. Who knows, perhaps Mountain Police want to institutionalize her and that is why she fears them?
Anyway, Persons incarcerated in mental hospitals are not only deprived of their physical liberty, they are also deprived of friends, family and community. 442 U.S. 584, 627.
Tilman Hausherr, can you please make sure that the German psychs, the butchers of Munich get a copy of that and stick it behind their blood crusted mirrors? So should you, as you are such a fan of those butchers, right?
It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit permission of the trial judges, regularly lie in court to obtain involuntary commitment and forced medication orders. Michael L. Perlin, Journal of Law and Health 1993/1994, 8 JLHealth 15, 33-34 in "Can Sanist Attitudes Be Undone?" The psychiatric profession explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists regularly lie to the courts in order to obtain forced treatment orders.
Those "saints"... and what a destructive cult psychiatry is!
E. Fuller Torrey, M.D. one of the prominent proponent of involuntary psychiatric treatment said: "It would probably be difficult to find any American psychiatrist working with the mentally ill who has not, at a minimum, exaggerated the dangerousness of a mental ill person's behavior to obtain a judicial order for commitment. Torey E. Fuller, 1997 Out of the Shadows.
What is no doubt shocking to Americans who have experienced the referred to psychiatry process, it turns out that the legal protections for people diagnosed as mentally ill are not worth the paper they are written on and the court proceedings are fairly characterized as a sham. The effect of it is described by Professor Perlin:
"Its toxin infects all participants in the judicial system, breeds cynicism and disrespect for the law. Demeans participants, and reinforces shoddy lawyering, blase judging, and, at times, perjurious and/or corrupt testifying. The reality is well known to frequent customers of judicial services in this area: to mental health advocates and other public defender/legal aid/legal service lawyers assigned to represent patients and criminal defendants who are mentally disabled, to prosecutors and state attorneys assigned to represent hospitals, to judges who regularly hear such cases, to expert and lay witnesses
" Sanist Attitudes, supra.
Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be committed or drugged, just because she is of other opinions and thinks differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate within the laws.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.
---------------------------------------------- Linda Anderson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html Gerald Armstrong http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html Jim Beebe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html Graham Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html David Bird http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html Tory Christman http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html Ursula Caberta http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html Ida Camburn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html Joe Cisar http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html Robert Clark http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html Mark Dallara http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html Steven Fishman http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html Phil Georgi http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html Scott Goehring http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html Roger Gonnet http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html Barbara Graham http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html Gregg Hagglund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html Steve Hassan http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html Tilman Hausherr http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html Keith Henson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html Deana Holmes http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html Patrick Jost http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html Charlotte Kates http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html Rod Keller http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html Steven Kent http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html Arnie Lerma http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html Joe Lynn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html Ted Mayett http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html Frank Oliver http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html Kady O'Malley http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html Zenon Panoussis http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html Ted Patrick http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html Michael Pattinson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html Jesse Prince http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html David Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html Fred Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html Rick Ross http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html Karin Spaink http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html David Touretzky http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html Alan Walter http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html Grady Ward http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html Johan Wevers http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html Larry Wollersheim http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html Sten-Arne Zerpe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html -- http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org --
Corkscrew - 08 Jan 2004 00:54 GMT > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and > smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. I don't give a tinker's cuss about $cientology, but for God's sake stop bothering ASH with this sh.t.
 Signature Corkscrew Life is a sexually transmitted disease - Anonymous, grafitti found on the London Underground
Sam Hill - 08 Jan 2004 01:40 GMT Barbara Schwarz Truth Speaker,
Well done, compiling quotations for a topic, including credits and hyperlinks. Maybe we'd take the advice if we had access to these documents, but definitely we'd bother to take a "College Level English Composition Course" before attempting to make a credible argument on a professional level. Then, we'd write on a level appropriate for the audience. This is like taking Shakespeare to Harlem expecting to carry on a conversation with a crack addict. Truth Speaker won't follow her postings anyway, so a response is mute.
Sam Hill, Last Grade Completed: 3rd Grade
> "Its toxin infects all participants in the judicial system, breeds > cynicism and disrespect for the law. Demeans participants, and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate > within the laws. Truth Speaker - 08 Jan 2004 18:34 GMT > Barbara Schwarz Truth Speaker, Go e.g. to www.findlaw.com, Sam and everybody else, type in the topic mentioned or go to your law library and ask a librarian to find those references.
Have a nice day, and try to get to the 4th Grade. :)
I am applying L. Ron Hubbard's study technology, so can everybody else. If you do, no text is difficult anymore.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one) P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.
http://www.aros.net/~barbarasch ---------------------------------------------- Linda Anderson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html Gerald Armstrong http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html Jim Beebe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html Graham Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html David Bird http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html Tory Christman http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html Ursula Caberta http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html Ida Camburn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html Joe Cisar http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html Robert Clark http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html Mark Dallara http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html Steven Fishman http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html Phil Georgi http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html Scott Goehring http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html Roger Gonnet http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html Barbara Graham http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html Gregg Hagglund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html Steve Hassan http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html Tilman Hausherr http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html Keith Henson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html Deana Holmes http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html Patrick Jost http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html Charlotte Kates http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html Rod Keller http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html Steven Kent http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html Arnie Lerma http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html Joe Lynn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html Ted Mayett http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html Frank Oliver http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html Kady O'Malley http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html Zenon Panoussis http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html Ted Patrick http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html Michael Pattinson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html Jesse Prince http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html David Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html Fred Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html Rick Ross http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html Karin Spaink http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html David Touretzky http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html Alan Walter http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html Grady Ward http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html Johan Wevers http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html Larry Wollersheim http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html Sten-Arne Zerpe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html -- http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org --
> Well done, compiling quotations for a topic, including credits and > hyperlinks. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate > > within the laws. kleverbastard - 08 Jan 2004 02:40 GMT Oh dear.............Barbara troll, you need to get out more
>Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and >smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit [quoted text clipped - 283 lines] >-- >http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org Barbara_Schwarz - 08 Jan 2004 09:37 GMT > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and > smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. LOL. Boobie Schwartz is the reason why critics have migraines.
snip of Schwartz-spew
> Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be > committed or drugged, just because she is of other opinions and thinks > differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate > within the laws. LOL. Yep, telling gross lies and filing frivolous lawsuits is operating within the laws, alright. <snicker>
> Barbara Schwartz (the pathetically dumbass one) > > P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and > identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Those are forgeries of > criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles. THIS IS A CRIMINAL FORGERY. I HAVE COMPLAINED TO YOUR ISP...THE SAME ONE THAT CANCELLED YOUR WEBPAGE, YOU PSYCHOTIC WORM.
MadHatter - 08 Jan 2004 10:00 GMT <snipped bullshit>
for f.ck's sake, why can't she just crash in her car and never write to this or any other group again! who has the attention span to read pages of this f.cking idiocy! how many times to i have to PLONK that bitch!
PLONK
Truth Speaker - 08 Jan 2004 18:26 GMT > <snipped bullshit> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > PLONK That is not me, you idiot. Barbara_Schwarz is cyber criminal Garry Scarff. Can't you read? Just is the AIDS virus, he is everywhere! Barbara Schwarz (the real one) P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.
---------------------------------------------- Linda Anderson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html Gerald Armstrong http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html Jim Beebe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html Graham Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html David Bird http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html Tory Christman http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html Ursula Caberta http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html Ida Camburn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html Joe Cisar http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html Robert Clark http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html Mark Dallara http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html Steven Fishman http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html Phil Georgi http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html Scott Goehring http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html Roger Gonnet http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html Barbara Graham http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html Gregg Hagglund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html Steve Hassan http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html Tilman Hausherr http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html Keith Henson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html Deana Holmes http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html Patrick Jost http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html Charlotte Kates http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html Rod Keller http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html Steven Kent http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html Arnie Lerma http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html Joe Lynn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html Ted Mayett http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html Frank Oliver http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html Kady O'Malley http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html Zenon Panoussis http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html Ted Patrick http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html Michael Pattinson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html Jesse Prince http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html David Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html Fred Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html Rick Ross http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html Karin Spaink http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html David Touretzky http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html Alan Walter http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html Grady Ward http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html Johan Wevers http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html Larry Wollersheim http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html Sten-Arne Zerpe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html -- http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org --
Truth_Speaker_2 - 08 Jan 2004 10:06 GMT > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and > smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit > smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a lot of > legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much > stressed to respond adequately. :) Hogwash. Every single psychiatrist that has ever talked to you or analyzed you claimed you to be a hopeless lunatic.
TS
Truth Speaker - 08 Jan 2004 18:24 GMT > > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and > > smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > TS Lol. And who might those psychiatrists be, Garry Scarffbag? They are all in your AIDS pus filled head and nowhere else.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one) P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Same applies for the Truthspeaker 2.Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.
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orkeltatte@hotmail.com - 08 Jan 2004 13:59 GMT > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and > smart.Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit > smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a lot of > legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much > stressed to respond adequately. :) This is called lacking insight, when the insane declares him/her self sane and anyone opposing - insane.No matter what majority of people - whole world even - then the world is insane but not "me". Get it?
All references to the First Amendment, does , I would guess, not comply to the mentally insane, not being at their "normal" faculties and hence not able to express , because of their illnes-disease, their true will or thoughts of mind.
> I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the > exceptional mind, while you hecklers have the kind of remaining kind > of minds. This is called a touch of grandeure or megalomaniac ideation.
> And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric > drugs. These drugs "alter the chemical balance in a patient's brain, > leading to changes...in his or her cognitive processes". Harper, 494 > U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your > drugs you can't have the cognitions that you need to turn your life > around and to become truly something worth. Yes psychiatric drugs do alter brain chemical balance - from abnormal to normal. That´s the whole idea , so you can have your needed cognitions working for you instead of against you.
> It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental > illness; rather they suppress the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald > Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed 2001). Absolutely correct as stated just above!
> By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her > will, the government is commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly > changing his or her alibity to formulate particular thoughts. Especially the sick ones , as shown in symptoms of paranoia, grandeure etcetera.
> Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely > and frequently on what constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate > diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and symptoms, on cure and > treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis > & Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins > in the courtroom, 62 Cal. L. rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974). There are no exact science whatsoever- period!
> There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results > in a "massive curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504, > 509. Selfexplanatory statement - thats why commitment must be preceded by careful examination and the ethical "cost" of forced care must be clearly balanced and formulated in the gains of the upcoming care ,before commitment.
> It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit > permission of the trial judges, regularly lie in court to obtain [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists regularly lie to the courts in > order to obtain forced treatment orders. This may not be alltogether untrue. It is a well known fact that you can´t write a perfect law - that lawmakers are laypeople in all other areas than the judicial, that "interpretations" of the law sometimes are made to "bend" the law in a preferred direction , hopefully for the better.Most doctors are bound by their professional ethics (Hippocrate)and acts for the better of their patients even if it could mean braking one law to uphold another. As long as the patients benefits in the end , it could be the ethically correct action to take.
Orkeltatte
TheoneTheonly - 08 Jan 2004 19:45 GMT > > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and > > smart.Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sane and anyone opposing - insane.No matter what majority of people - > whole world even - then the world is insane but not "me". Get it? I have no troubles to get this, I hope you posted that for the other posters. :) That is exactly *their* problem.
> All references to the First Amendment, does , I would guess, not > comply to the mentally insane, not being at their "normal" faculties > and hence not able to express , because of their illnes-disease, their > true will or thoughts of mind. It is about that anybody should be allowed to think and speak out without that others gang up on that person to get her silenced in an institution or otherwise.
> > I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the > > exceptional mind, while you hecklers have the kind of remaining kind > > of minds. > > This is called a touch of grandeure or megalomaniac ideation. Huh?
> > And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric > > drugs. These drugs "alter the chemical balance in a patient's brain, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > That´s the whole idea , so you can have your needed cognitions working > for you instead of against you. You did not get it at all. They PREVENT you from having cognitions. If you would not take that stuff you probably would have a chance to understand that.
> > It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental > > illness; rather they suppress the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Especially the sick ones , as shown in symptoms of paranoia, grandeure > etcetera. Any person has the right to own ideas and psychs should not try to get into the mind forcibly.
> > Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely > > and frequently on what constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > There are no exact science whatsoever- period! Not true. Physics is rather exact. Original SCN was exact.
> > There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results > > in a "massive curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > clearly balanced and formulated in the gains of the upcoming care > ,before commitment. Psychs are unethical, as you read below. They lie to get people committed.
> > It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit > > permission of the trial judges, regularly lie in court to obtain [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > This may not be alltogether untrue. It is correct because I have also seen it happen.
It is a well known fact that you
> can´t write a perfect law - that lawmakers are laypeople in all other > areas than the judicial, that "interpretations" of the law sometimes > are made to "bend" the law in a preferred direction , hopefully for > the better. It is not about an accidential mistake. They lie to get patients!
Most doctors are bound by their professional ethics
> (Hippocrate)and acts for the better of their patients even if it could > mean braking one law to uphold another. As long as the patients > benefits in the end , it could be the ethically correct action to > take. Dream one. I met so many unethical doctors (not only psychs) and they acted as they never heard from the Hippocrate Oath. So many patients have to die or suffer under their negligence or arbitrary actions.
Hippocrate reminds me a lot to Hypocrite!
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> > > Orkeltatte orkeltatte@hotmail.com - 09 Jan 2004 08:08 GMT > > > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and > > > smart.Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > I have no troubles to get this, I hope you posted that for the other > posters. :) That is exactly *their* problem. No matter what majority of people - whole world even - then the world is insane but not "me". Get it? I rest my case!
> > All references to the First Amendment, does , I would guess, not > > comply to the mentally insane, not being at their "normal" faculties [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Huh? I rest my case!
> > > And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric > > > drugs. These drugs "alter the chemical balance in a patient's brain, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > you would not take that stuff you probably would have a chance to > understand that. I suppose , being a psychiatrist , that I just possibly know a little bit more about these things than any layman / laywoman as yourself, huh?
> > > It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental > > > illness; rather they suppress the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > into the mind forcibly. > Not even if you save thier life by doing so,huh?
> > > Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely > > > and frequently on what constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Not true. Physics is rather exact. Original SCN was exact. I rest my case!
> > > There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results > > > in a "massive curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Psychs are unethical, as you read below. They lie to get people > committed. Rests!
> > > It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit > > > permission of the trial judges, regularly lie in court to obtain [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Hippocrate reminds me a lot to Hypocrite!
> Barbara Schwarz (the real one) A forseen statement. I was just waiting on that one. How predictable!
Orkeltatte
Stefano MacGregor - 11 Jan 2004 02:10 GMT > Why I would pass any psychological examination? You might pass for a while, but eventually, the topic would get around to President Eisenhower, and how he was assassinated while in office, and how you came to acquire knowledge of this. Then it would be all over.
By the way, just =how= did you find out about Eisenhower's assassination?
 Signature Stefano "Scientology is to religion as mud-pies are to cuisine."
Truth_Speaker_2 - 11 Jan 2004 07:31 GMT > > Why I would pass any psychological examination? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > By the way, just =how= did you find out about Eisenhower's > assassination? The skank made it up like all her other wild, phony claims.
Porn-guy-Dave-Touretzky-has-bomb-instructions-on-his-website! - 11 Jan 2004 20:52 GMT > > Why I would pass any psychological examination? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > By the way, just =how= did you find out about Eisenhower's > assassination? So what you are saying? People that have another opinion or other memories are automatically crazy? It is not so easy, Stefano.
How I found out? I am very smart, and the German still active Nazi psych mincontroller secret service (SEGNPMSS) can fool people like the ARS posters but not me.
I am certain that the SEGNPMSS wants me to be declared insane. That is why they whisper in ARS posters ear drums to spread and post the lies that I am insane, so that their crimes are further covered up.
I am not the only one who knows that. There must be CIA agents around that know also what I figured out.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one) P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identity Barbara_Schwarz and Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff and fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. And Frederic Rice, another fierce David Touretzky defender is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.
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Stefano MacGregor - 12 Jan 2004 19:42 GMT > How I found out? I am very smart, and the German still active Nazi > psych mincontroller secret service (SEGNPMSS) can fool people like the > ARS posters but not me. Yes: my question was, how did you find out that President Eisenhower was assassinated? You have not answered the question by telling me that your imaginary Nazis don't want me to know anything about this event. So, you say, they can't fool you. But someone or something is preventing you from telling us how you found out about this event, and thus proving to us that it is true.
Could it be your ear implants, put there, not by your imaginary Nazis, but by the all-too-real Marcab Confederation, and it is =they= who prevent you from revealing your source of this information? Hmmmm?
 Signature Stefano "Scientology is to religion as phrenology is to anatomy."
The real Barbara Schwarz - 13 Jan 2004 00:15 GMT > > How I found out? I am very smart, and the German still active Nazi > > psych mincontroller secret service (SEGNPMSS) can fool people like the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > preventing you from telling us how you found out about this event, and > thus proving to us that it is true. Why should I waste my time explaining it to you, Stefano, after all the abuse that you had for me in earlier postings?
You apparently missed all your history lessons if you think that Nazis are imaginary.
> Could it be your ear implants, put there, not by your imaginary Nazis, > but by the all-too-real Marcab Confederation, and it is =they= who > prevent you from revealing your source of this information? Hmmmm? I don't respond to that kind of confused text.
Barbara Schwarz (the real one) P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identity Barbara_Schwarz and Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff and fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. And Frederic Rice, another fierce David Touretzky defender is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.
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Stefano MacGregor - 13 Jan 2004 15:08 GMT > Why should I waste my time explaining it to you, Stefano, after all > the abuse that you had for me in earlier postings? For the same reason you waste your time posting here in the first place: to get people to believe what you say. So far, no one believes anything you have said.
But actually, you =cannot= explain where you got this information, because if you search your memory, you will notice that you did not hear it from anyone, or read it anywhere. You just know it without having learned it. This is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia.
> You apparently missed all your history lessons if you think that Nazis > are imaginary. No, the Nazis are in the past, except for a few noisy, impotent groups of misfits, who call themselves "Nazis". Your full-blown Nazi party still governing Germany and the US is totally imaginary. Again, you did not learn of your Nazis and their ear-implants from anyone; you simply know all this information without having learned it. This is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia.
 Signature Stefano "Scientology is to religion as rap is to music."
The real Barbara Schwarz - 13 Jan 2004 22:55 GMT > > Why should I waste my time explaining it to you, Stefano, after all > > the abuse that you had for me in earlier postings? > > For the same reason you waste your time posting here in the first > place: to get people to believe what you say. So far, no one > believes anything you have said. You are wrong in first and second sentence. I post mainly because I don't know how much time I have. If the SEGNPMSS blows my light out, so to speak, I at least posted what I know about them. I don't try to convince fools, Stefano. It's true that there are many fools on earth, but not all people are stupid. Only stupid people believe that all are as stupid as they are.
> But actually, you =cannot= explain where you got this information, > because if you search your memory, you will notice that you did not > hear it from anyone, or read it anywhere. Who are you to make such an allegation? You never met me, you never spoke to me. You never had access to my mind nor memory. You know nothing.
You just know it without
> having learned it. This is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia. Would you please post your credentials in the field of mental health, Stefano?
> > You apparently missed all your history lessons if you think that Nazis > > are imaginary. > > No, the Nazis are in the past, except for a few noisy, impotent groups > of misfits, who call themselves "Nazis". I lived in Germany. Did you? I know a lot more that they are not gone than you.
Your full-blown Nazi party
> still governing Germany and the US is totally imaginary. That is what all the remote controlled German Nazi agents are saying.
Again, you
> did not learn of your Nazis and their ear-implants from anyone; Why do I have to learn from anybody? Why can't I make my own discoveries? you
> simply know all this information without having learned it. This is > one of the symptoms of schizophrenia. You are wasting my time, Stefano. You are a man without IQ and character.
P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and identity Barbara_Schwarz and Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff and fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. And Frederic Rice, another fierce David Touretzky defender is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.
---------------------------------------------- Linda Anderson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html Gerald Armstrong http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html Jim Beebe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html Graham Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html David Bird http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html Tory Christman http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html Ursula Caberta http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html Ida Camburn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html Joe Cisar http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html Robert Clark http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html Elizabeth Ann Cox http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html Mark Dallara http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html Alexander Dvorkin http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html Valerie Emanuel http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html Steven Fishman http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html Vickki Ford Cook http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html Phil Georgi http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html Scott Goehring http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html Roger Gonnet http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html Barbara Graham http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html Gregg Hagglund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html Steve Hassan http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html Tilman Hausherr http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html Andreas Heldal-Lund http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html Keith Henson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html Deana Holmes http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html Jeff Jacobsen http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html Patrick Jost http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html Charlotte Kates http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html Rod Keller http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html Steven Kent http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html Arnie Lerma http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html Joe Lynn http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html Ted Mayett http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html Frank Oliver http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html Kady O'Malley http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html Zenon Panoussis http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html Ted Patrick http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html Michael Pattinson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html Robert Peterson http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html Jesse Prince http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html Roland Rashleigh-Berry http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html David Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html Fred Rice http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html Rick Ross http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html Karin Spaink http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html David Touretzky http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html Alan Walter http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html Grady Ward http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html Johan Wevers http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html Hana/Jerry Whitfield http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html Larry Wollersheim http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html Sten-Arne Zerpe http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html -- http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org --
Stefano MacGregor - 14 Jan 2004 04:18 GMT >> But actually, you =cannot= explain where you got this information, >> because if you search your memory, you will notice that you did not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > spoke to me. You never had access to my mind nor memory. You know > nothing. I may never have met you, but I see much of what you post here, and I accuse you of not being =able= to tell us where you heard that President Eisenhower was assassinated while in office, and you could prove me wrong by revealing your source of this information.
But you cannot prove me wrong, because you cannot give any such information.
In fact, you have never given us one reference to any information that could validate any of your unbelievable claims, of Eisenhower's assassination, of the city under the Great Salt Lake, of the Nazi ear implants, of your marriage to Marty, or anything else. None of this =can= be substantiated, of course.
 Signature Stefano "Scientology is to religion as mud-pies are to fine cuisine."
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