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Why I, Barbara Schwarz would pass any examination...

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Truth Speaker - 07 Jan 2004 23:52 GMT
Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit
smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a lot of
legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much
stressed to respond adequately. :)

There is ...a sphere within which the individual may assert the
supremacy of his own will and rightfully dispute the authority of any
human government, especially of any free government existing under a
written constitution, to interfer with the excercise of that will.
Jacobsen v. Massachusetts, 197 U.S. 11, 29 (1905).

(Not Jeff Jacobsen, he doesn't write smart, but he could be that old,
probably wearing Depends and that gave him perhaps the idea to
dramatize Gandhi.)

A person's intellect is surely within that protected sphere. The right
of a person to liberty, autonomy and privacy over his or her own
thought process is situated at the core of what it means to be a free
person. It is essential to the most elementary concepts of human
freedom, dignity, and self-expression, and demands this court's
steadfast protection. The right to sovereignty over one's own thought
processes is the quintessence of freedom, and is protected by the
First Amendment.

This is important for the people to know, who scream that I should be
forcefully medicated, and committed, because I dare to speak my mind.
ARS extremist and friends, can you follow? Try at least...

The First Amendment protects communciation of virtually all kinds
whether in writing, verbal, pictural, or any symbolic form, and
whether cognitive or emotive in nature.

The First Amendment, declared by the court in West Virginia State
Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943), gives a
constitutional preference for "individual freedom of mind" over
"officially disciplined uniformity for which history indicates a
disappointing and disastrous end".

Professor Thomas Emerson said in The System of Freedom of Expression
21-22: "Forming or holding a belief occurs prior to expression. But it
is the first stage in the processes of expression, and it tends to
progress into expression. Hence safeguarding the right to form and
hold beliefs is essential in maintaining a system of freedom of
expression. Freedom of belief, therefore, must be held included within
the protection of the First Amendment.

We can have intellectual individualism and the rich cultural
diversities that we owe to exceptional minds only at the price of
occasional eccentricity and abnormal attitudes. 319 U.S. 624.

Do you hear that Karin Spaink who talks people into committing
suicide? Abnormal attitude...

I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the
exceptional mind, while you hecklers have the kind of remaining kind
of minds.

Are you still with me, Tory Christman, Tigger, Sally Goodman, Frederic
Rice, Garry Scarff and all the other people that live in the dark? I
know you have a hard time understanding that, but apply L. Ron
Hubbard's study technology and things will become clearer. :)

And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric
drugs. These drugs "alter the chemical balance in a patient's brain,
leading to changes...in his or her cognitive processes". Harper, 494
U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your
drugs you can't have the cognitions that you need to turn your life
around and to become truly something worth.

"...the physical and mental side effects of the drugs might be
unacceptable, even dangerous". Harper, 494 U.S. at 238. Even in the
absence of physical and mental "side effects" the fact remains that
anti psychotic drugs strongly affect thought processes.

It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental
illness; rather they suppress the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald
Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed 2001).

If that is not enough reasons to spit that stuff out, but be careful
when Garry Scarff spits, he has AIDS.

By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her
will, the government is commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly
changing his or her alibity to formulate particular thoughts. In re
Guardianship of Roe, 421 N.E.2d 40, 52-3 (1981), ("the impact of the
chemcials upon the brain is sufficient to undermine the foundation of
personality.)

Are you now finally a bit smarter, Dave Touretzky, Arnie Lerma, Roger
Gonnet and Barb Graham Warr?

The First Amendment protects the communication of ideas, which itself
implies protection of the capacity to produce ideas. Antipsychiotic
drugs have the capacity to severly and even permanently affect an
individual's to think and communicate. Bee, 744 F2d at 1393-94.

That's why so many ARS posters post as they have an impaired brain and
mind. They pop those stupid and dangerous drugs.

Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely
and frequently on what constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate
diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and symptoms, on cure and
treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis
& Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins
in the courtroom, 62 Cal. L. rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974).

See, Joe Lynn, you and the other extremists below were just lucky that
you are not in an institution forcefully medicated. Hey, and think
about Dave Bird roaming streets with his pants down!

There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results
in a "massive curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504,
509.

No, that is not Kady O'Malley, but her actions are pretty crazy. Who
knows, perhaps Mountain Police want to institutionalize her and that
is why she fears them?

Anyway, Persons incarcerated in mental hospitals are not only deprived
of their physical liberty, they are also deprived of friends, family
and community. 442 U.S. 584, 627.

Tilman Hausherr, can you please make sure that the German psychs, the
butchers of Munich get a copy of that and stick it behind their blood
crusted mirrors? So should you, as you are such a fan of those
butchers, right?

It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit
permission of the trial judges, regularly lie in court to obtain
involuntary commitment and forced medication orders. Michael L.
Perlin, Journal of Law and Health 1993/1994, 8 JLHealth 15, 33-34 in
"Can Sanist Attitudes Be Undone?" The psychiatric profession
explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists regularly lie to the courts in
order to obtain forced treatment orders.

Those "saints"... and what a destructive cult psychiatry is!

E. Fuller Torrey, M.D. one of the prominent proponent of involuntary
psychiatric treatment said: "It would probably be difficult to find
any American psychiatrist working with the mentally ill who has not,
at a minimum, exaggerated the dangerousness of a mental ill person's
behavior to obtain a judicial order for commitment. Torey E. Fuller,
1997 Out of the Shadows.

What is no doubt shocking to Americans who have experienced the
referred to psychiatry process, it turns out that the legal
protections for people diagnosed as mentally ill are not worth the
paper they are written on and the court proceedings are fairly
characterized as a sham. The effect of it is described by Professor
Perlin:

"Its toxin infects all participants in the judicial system, breeds
cynicism and disrespect for the law. Demeans participants, and
reinforces shoddy lawyering, blase judging, and, at times, perjurious
and/or corrupt testifying. The reality is well known to frequent
customers of judicial services in this area: to mental health
advocates and other public defender/legal aid/legal service lawyers
assigned to represent patients and criminal defendants who are
mentally disabled, to prosecutors and state attorneys assigned to
represent hospitals, to judges who regularly hear such cases, to
expert and lay witnesses…" Sanist Attitudes, supra.

Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be
committed or drugged, just because she is of other opinions and thinks
differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate
within the laws.

Barbara Schwarz (the real one)

P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and
identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Those are forgeries of
criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles.
And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and
greasy punch bag is an impressive man.

----------------------------------------------
Linda Anderson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html
Gerald Armstrong
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html
Jim Beebe
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html
Graham Berry
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html
David Bird
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html
Tory Christman
http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html
Ursula Caberta
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html
Ida Camburn
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html
Joe Cisar
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html
Robert Clark
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html
Elizabeth Ann Cox
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html
Mark Dallara
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html
Alexander Dvorkin
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html
Valerie Emanuel
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html
Steven Fishman
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html
Vickki Ford Cook
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html
Phil Georgi
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html
Scott Goehring
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html
Roger Gonnet
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html
Barbara Graham
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html
Gregg Hagglund
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html
Steve Hassan
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html
Tilman Hausherr
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html
Andreas Heldal-Lund
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
Keith Henson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html
Deana Holmes
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html
Jeff Jacobsen
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html
Patrick Jost
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html
Charlotte Kates
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html
Rod Keller
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html
Steven Kent
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html
Arnie Lerma
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html
Joe Lynn
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html
Ted Mayett
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html
Frank Oliver
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html
Kady O'Malley
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html
Zenon Panoussis
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html
Ted Patrick
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html
Michael Pattinson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html
Robert Peterson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html
Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html
Jesse Prince
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html
Roland Rashleigh-Berry
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html
David Rice
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html
Fred Rice
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html
Rick Ross
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html
Karin Spaink
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html
David Touretzky
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html
Alan Walter
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html
Grady Ward
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html
Johan Wevers
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html
Hana/Jerry Whitfield
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html
Larry Wollersheim
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html
Sten-Arne Zerpe
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html
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http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
--
Corkscrew - 08 Jan 2004 00:54 GMT
> Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
> smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't.

I don't give a tinker's cuss about $cientology, but for God's sake stop
bothering ASH with this sh.t.

Signature

Corkscrew
Life is a sexually transmitted disease
 - Anonymous, grafitti found on the London Underground

Sam Hill - 08 Jan 2004 01:40 GMT
Barbara Schwarz  Truth Speaker,

Well done, compiling quotations for a topic, including credits and
hyperlinks.
Maybe we'd take the advice if we had access to these documents, but
definitely
we'd bother to take a "College Level English Composition Course" before
attempting to
make a credible argument on a professional level. Then, we'd write on a
level appropriate
for the audience. This is like taking Shakespeare to Harlem expecting to
carry on a
conversation with a crack addict. Truth Speaker won't follow her postings
anyway,
so a response is mute.

Sam Hill,   Last Grade Completed: 3rd Grade

> "Its toxin infects all participants in the judicial system, breeds
> cynicism and disrespect for the law. Demeans participants, and
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate
> within the laws.
Truth Speaker - 08 Jan 2004 18:34 GMT
> Barbara Schwarz  Truth Speaker,

Go e.g. to www.findlaw.com, Sam and everybody else, type in the topic
mentioned or go to your law library and ask a librarian to find those
references.

Have a nice day, and try to get to the 4th Grade. :)

I am applying L. Ron Hubbard's study technology, so can everybody
else. If you do, no text is difficult anymore.

Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and
identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Those are forgeries of
criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles.
And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and
greasy punch bag is an impressive man.

http://www.aros.net/~barbarasch
----------------------------------------------
Linda Anderson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html
Gerald Armstrong
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html
Jim Beebe
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html
Graham Berry
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html
David Bird
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html
Tory Christman
http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html
Ursula Caberta
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html
Ida Camburn
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html
Joe Cisar
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html
Robert Clark
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html
Elizabeth Ann Cox
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html
Mark Dallara
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html
Alexander Dvorkin
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html
Valerie Emanuel
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html
Steven Fishman
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html
Vickki Ford Cook
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html
Phil Georgi
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html
Scott Goehring
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html
Roger Gonnet
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html
Barbara Graham
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html
Gregg Hagglund
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html
Steve Hassan
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html
Tilman Hausherr
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html
Andreas Heldal-Lund
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
Keith Henson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html
Deana Holmes
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html
Jeff Jacobsen
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html
Patrick Jost
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html
Charlotte Kates
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html
Rod Keller
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html
Steven Kent
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html
Arnie Lerma
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html
Joe Lynn
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html
Ted Mayett
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html
Frank Oliver
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html
Kady O'Malley
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html
Zenon Panoussis
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html
Ted Patrick
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html
Michael Pattinson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html
Robert Peterson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html
Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html
Jesse Prince
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html
Roland Rashleigh-Berry
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html
David Rice
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html
Fred Rice
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html
Rick Ross
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html
Karin Spaink
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html
David Touretzky
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html
Alan Walter
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html
Grady Ward
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ward.html
Johan Wevers
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/weversj1.html
Hana/Jerry Whitfield
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/whitfield1.html
Larry Wollersheim
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/wollersheim1.html
Sten-Arne Zerpe
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/zerpesa1.html
--
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
--











> Well done, compiling quotations for a topic, including credits and
> hyperlinks.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> > differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate
> > within the laws.
kleverbastard - 08 Jan 2004 02:40 GMT
Oh dear.............Barbara troll,    you need to get out more

>Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
>smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit
[quoted text clipped - 283 lines]
>--
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org
Barbara_Schwarz - 08 Jan 2004 09:37 GMT
> Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
> smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't.

LOL. Boobie Schwartz is the reason why critics have migraines.

snip of Schwartz-spew

> Before you guys post unqualified postings that a person should be
> committed or drugged, just because she is of other opinions and thinks
> differently than you do, pull out the law books as I do and operate
> within the laws.

LOL. Yep, telling gross lies and filing frivolous lawsuits is
operating within the laws, alright. <snicker>

> Barbara Schwartz (the pathetically dumbass one)
>
> P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and
> identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Those are forgeries of
> criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles.

THIS IS A CRIMINAL FORGERY. I HAVE COMPLAINED TO YOUR ISP...THE SAME
ONE THAT CANCELLED YOUR WEBPAGE, YOU PSYCHOTIC WORM.
MadHatter - 08 Jan 2004 10:00 GMT
<snipped bullshit>

for f.ck's sake, why can't she just crash in her car and never write to
this or any other group again! who has the attention span to read pages
of this f.cking idiocy! how many times to i have to PLONK that bitch!

PLONK
Truth Speaker - 08 Jan 2004 18:26 GMT
> <snipped bullshit>
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> PLONK

That is not me, you idiot. Barbara_Schwarz is cyber criminal Garry
Scarff. Can't you read? Just is the AIDS virus, he is everywhere!

Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and
identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Those are forgeries of
criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles.
And Frederic Rice is as little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and
greasy punch bag is an impressive man.

----------------------------------------------
Linda Anderson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/andersenl1.html
Gerald Armstrong
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/armstrong1.html
Jim Beebe
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/beebej1.html
Graham Berry
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/berry.html
David Bird
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/birdd1.html
Tory Christman
http://religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/christmant4.html
Ursula Caberta
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/caberta.html
Ida Camburn
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/camburn1.html
Joe Cisar
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/cisarj1.html
Robert Clark
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/clark1.html
Elizabeth Ann Cox
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/coxea1.html
Mark Dallara
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dallara1.html
Alexander Dvorkin
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/dvorkin1.html
Valerie Emanuel
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/emanuelv1.html
Steven Fishman
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman1.html
Vickki Ford Cook
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fordv1.html
Phil Georgi
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen6.html
Scott Goehring
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/goehrings1.html
Roger Gonnet
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/gonnet1.html
Barbara Graham
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/graham1.html
Gregg Hagglund
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hagglund1.html
Steve Hassan
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/hassan1.html
Tilman Hausherr
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/hauser1.html
Andreas Heldal-Lund
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
Keith Henson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/henson1.html
Deana Holmes
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/holmes1.html
Jeff Jacobsen
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jacobsen1.html
Patrick Jost
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/jost1.html
Charlotte Kates
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/katesc1.html
Rod Keller
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/keller1.html
Steven Kent
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/kent1.html
Arnie Lerma
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html
Joe Lynn
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lynn1.html
Ted Mayett
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/mayett1.html
Frank Oliver
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/oliver.html
Kady O'Malley
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/omalley1.html
Zenon Panoussis
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/panoussis1.html
Ted Patrick
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/patrick1.html
Michael Pattinson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pattinsonm1.html
Robert Peterson
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/peterson1.html
Bruce/Kathleen Pettycrew
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/pettycrew.html
Jesse Prince
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/prince1.html
Roland Rashleigh-Berry
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/rashleighb1.html
David Rice
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/riced.html
Fred Rice
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/ricef.html
Rick Ross
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html
Karin Spaink
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/spaink1.html
David Touretzky
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/touretzky1.html
Alan Walter
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/walter1.html
Grady Ward
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Truth_Speaker_2 - 08 Jan 2004 10:06 GMT
> Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
> smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit
> smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a lot of
> legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much
> stressed to respond adequately. :)

Hogwash. Every single psychiatrist that has ever talked to you or
analyzed you claimed you to be a hopeless lunatic.

TS
Truth Speaker - 08 Jan 2004 18:24 GMT
> > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
> > smart. Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> TS

Lol. And who might those psychiatrists be, Garry Scarffbag? They are
all in your AIDS pus filled head and nowhere else.

Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
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identity Barbara_Schwarz are not done by me. Same applies for the
Truthspeaker 2.Those are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay
lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff in Los Angeles. And Frederic Rice is as
little a de Rothschild as a dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an
impressive man.

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orkeltatte@hotmail.com - 08 Jan 2004 13:59 GMT
> Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
> smart.Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit
> smarter. If psychs would come to get me, they would hear a lot of
> legal statutory language and trust me, they would be pretty much
> stressed to respond adequately. :)

This is called lacking insight, when the insane declares him/her self
sane and anyone opposing - insane.No matter what majority of people -
whole world even - then the world is insane but not "me". Get it?

All references to the First Amendment, does , I would guess, not
comply to the mentally insane, not being at their "normal" faculties
and hence not able to express , because of their illnes-disease, their
true will or thoughts of mind.

> I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the
> exceptional mind, while you hecklers have the kind of remaining kind
> of minds.

This is called a touch of grandeure or megalomaniac ideation.

> And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric
> drugs. These drugs "alter the chemical balance in a patient's brain,
> leading to changes...in his or her cognitive processes". Harper, 494
> U.S. at 229. See, dirty Rice boy, that is your problem. With your
> drugs you can't have the cognitions that you need to turn your life
> around and to become truly something worth.

Yes psychiatric drugs do alter brain chemical balance - from abnormal
to normal.
That´s the whole idea , so you can have your needed cognitions working
for you instead of against you.

> It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental
> illness; rather they suppress the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald
> Davidson & John Neale, Abnormal Psychology 305 (8th ed 2001).

Absolutely correct as stated just above!

> By forcing a person to take mind-altering drug against his or her
> will, the government is commandeering that person's mind, and forcibly
> changing his or her alibity to formulate particular thoughts.

Especially the sick ones , as shown in symptoms of paranoia, grandeure
etcetera.

> Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely
> and frequently on what constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate
> diagnosis to be attached to given behavior and symptoms, on cure and
> treatment..." Ake v. Oklahoma, 470 U.S. 68, 81 (1985). See also Ennis
> & Litwack, Psychiatry and the Presumption of Expertise: Flipping coins
> in the courtroom, 62 Cal. L. rev. 693, 697-708, 729-32 (1974).

There are no exact science whatsoever- period!

> There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results
> in a "massive curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504,
> 509.

Selfexplanatory statement - thats why commitment must be preceded by
careful examination and the ethical "cost" of forced care must be
clearly balanced and formulated in the gains of the upcoming care
,before commitment.

> It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit
> permission of the trial judges, regularly lie in court to obtain
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> explicitly acknowledged psychiatrists regularly lie to the courts in
> order to obtain forced treatment orders.

This may not be alltogether untrue. It is a well known fact that you
can´t write a perfect law - that lawmakers are laypeople in all other
areas than the judicial, that "interpretations" of the law sometimes
are made to "bend" the law in a preferred direction , hopefully for
the better.Most doctors are bound by their professional ethics
(Hippocrate)and acts for the better of their patients even if it could
mean braking one law to uphold another. As long as the patients
benefits in the end , it could be the ethically correct action to
take.


Orkeltatte
TheoneTheonly - 08 Jan 2004 19:45 GMT
> > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
> > smart.Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> sane and anyone opposing - insane.No matter what majority of people -
> whole world even - then the world is insane but not "me". Get it?

I have no troubles to get this, I hope you posted that for the other
posters. :) That is exactly *their* problem.



> All references to the First Amendment, does , I would guess, not
> comply to the mentally insane, not being at their "normal" faculties
> and hence not able to express , because of their illnes-disease, their
> true will or thoughts of mind.

It is about that anybody should be allowed to think and speak out
without that others gang up on that person to get her silenced in an
institution or otherwise.

> > I hope it will become one day clear to you guys that I have the
> > exceptional mind, while you hecklers have the kind of remaining kind
> > of minds.
>
> This is called a touch of grandeure or megalomaniac ideation.

Huh?

> > And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric
> > drugs. These drugs "alter the chemical balance in a patient's brain,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> That´s the whole idea , so you can have your needed cognitions working
> for you instead of against you.

You did not get it at all. They PREVENT you from having cognitions. If
you would not take that stuff you probably would have a chance to
understand that.

> > It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental
> > illness; rather they suppress the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Especially the sick ones , as shown in symptoms of paranoia, grandeure
> etcetera.

Any person has the right to own ideas and psychs should not try to get
into the mind forcibly.


> > Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely
> > and frequently on what constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> There are no exact science whatsoever- period!

Not true. Physics is rather exact. Original SCN was exact.

> > There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results
> > in a "massive curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> clearly balanced and formulated in the gains of the upcoming care
> ,before commitment.

Psychs are unethical, as you read below. They lie to get people
committed.

> > It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit
> > permission of the trial judges, regularly lie in court to obtain
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> This may not be alltogether untrue.

It is correct because I have also seen it happen.

It is a well known fact that you
> can´t write a perfect law - that lawmakers are laypeople in all other
> areas than the judicial, that "interpretations" of the law sometimes
> are made to "bend" the law in a preferred direction , hopefully for
> the better.

It is not about an accidential mistake. They lie to get patients!

Most doctors are bound by their professional ethics
> (Hippocrate)and acts for the better of their patients even if it could
> mean braking one law to uphold another. As long as the patients
> benefits in the end , it could be the ethically correct action to
> take.

Dream one. I met so many unethical doctors (not only psychs) and they
acted as they never heard from the Hippocrate Oath. So many patients
have to die or suffer under their negligence or arbitrary actions.

Hippocrate reminds me a lot to Hypocrite!

Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
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identity Barbara_Schwarz and Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those
are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff
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>  
>
> Orkeltatte
orkeltatte@hotmail.com - 09 Jan 2004 08:08 GMT
> > > Why I would pass any psychological examination? Because I am sane and
> > > smart.Most of you ARS posters aren't. Read below to get a bit
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> I have no troubles to get this, I hope you posted that for the other
> posters. :) That is exactly *their* problem.


No matter what majority of people -
whole world even - then the world is insane but not "me". Get it?

I rest my case!

> > All references to the First Amendment, does , I would guess, not
> > comply to the mentally insane, not being at their "normal" faculties
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Huh?

I rest my case!


> > > And listen up, David Rice and all you folks who promote psychiatric
> > > drugs. These drugs "alter the chemical balance in a patient's brain,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> you would not take that stuff you probably would have a chance to
> understand that.

I suppose , being a psychiatrist , that I just possibly know a little
bit more about these things than any layman / laywoman as yourself,
huh?


> > > It should be noted that anti psychotic drugs do not cure mental
> > > illness; rather they suppress the symptoms of the illness. See Gerald
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> into the mind forcibly.
>  

Not even if you save thier life by doing so,huh?


> > > Psychiatry is not an exact science, and psychiatrists disagree widely
> > > and frequently on what constitutes mental illness, on the appropriate
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Not true. Physics is rather exact. Original SCN was exact.

I rest my case!

> > > There can be no doubt that commitment to a mental institution results
> > > in a "massive curtailment of liberty", Humphrey v. Cady 405 U.S. 504,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Psychs are unethical, as you read below. They lie to get people
> committed.

Rests!

> > > It turns out that psychiatrists, with the full understanding and tacit
> > > permission of the trial judges, regularly lie in court to obtain
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Hippocrate reminds me a lot to Hypocrite!

> Barbara Schwarz (the real one)

A forseen statement. I was just waiting on that one. How predictable!

Orkeltatte
Stefano MacGregor - 11 Jan 2004 02:10 GMT
> Why I would pass any psychological examination?

You might pass for a while, but eventually, the topic would get around
to President Eisenhower, and how he was assassinated while in office,
and how you came to acquire knowledge of this.  Then it would be all
over.

By the way, just =how= did you find out about Eisenhower's
assassination?

Signature

Stefano
"Scientology is to religion as mud-pies are to cuisine."

Truth_Speaker_2 - 11 Jan 2004 07:31 GMT
> > Why I would pass any psychological examination?
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> By the way, just =how= did you find out about Eisenhower's
> assassination?

The skank made it up like all her other wild, phony claims.
Porn-guy-Dave-Touretzky-has-bomb-instructions-on-his-website! - 11 Jan 2004 20:52 GMT
> > Why I would pass any psychological examination?
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> By the way, just =how= did you find out about Eisenhower's
> assassination?

So what you are saying? People that have another opinion or other
memories are automatically crazy? It is not so easy, Stefano.

How I found out? I am very smart, and the German still active Nazi
psych mincontroller secret service (SEGNPMSS) can fool people like the
ARS posters but not me.

I am certain that the SEGNPMSS wants me to be declared insane. That is
why they whisper in ARS posters ear drums to spread and post the lies
that I am insane, so that their crimes are further covered up.

I am not the only one who knows that. There must be CIA agents around
that know also what I figured out.

Barbara Schwarz (the real one)
P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and
identity Barbara_Schwarz and Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those
are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff
and fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. And Frederic Rice, another
fierce David Touretzky defender is as little a de Rothschild as a
dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.

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Stefano MacGregor - 12 Jan 2004 19:42 GMT
> How I found out? I am very smart, and the German still active Nazi
> psych mincontroller secret service (SEGNPMSS) can fool people like the
> ARS posters but not me.

Yes:  my question was, how did you find out that President Eisenhower
was assassinated?  You have not answered the question by telling me
that your imaginary Nazis don't want me to know anything about this
event.  So, you say, they can't fool you.  But someone or something is
preventing you from telling us how you found out about this event, and
thus proving to us that it is true.

Could it be your ear implants, put there, not by your imaginary Nazis,
but by the all-too-real Marcab Confederation, and it is =they= who
prevent you from revealing your source of this information?  Hmmmm?

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The real Barbara Schwarz - 13 Jan 2004 00:15 GMT
> > How I found out? I am very smart, and the German still active Nazi
> > psych mincontroller secret service (SEGNPMSS) can fool people like the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> preventing you from telling us how you found out about this event, and
> thus proving to us that it is true.

Why should I waste my time explaining it to you, Stefano, after all
the abuse that you had for me in earlier postings?

You apparently missed all your history lessons if you think that Nazis
are imaginary.


> Could it be your ear implants, put there, not by your imaginary Nazis,
> but by the all-too-real Marcab Confederation, and it is =they= who
> prevent you from revealing your source of this information?  Hmmmm?

I don't respond to that kind of confused text.

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Stefano MacGregor - 13 Jan 2004 15:08 GMT
> Why should I waste my time explaining it to you, Stefano, after all
> the abuse that you had for me in earlier postings?

For the same reason you waste your time posting here in the first
place:  to get people to believe what you say.  So far, no one
believes anything you have said.

But actually, you =cannot= explain where you got this information,
because if you search your memory, you will notice that you did not
hear it from anyone, or read it anywhere.  You just know it without
having learned it.  This is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia.

> You apparently missed all your history lessons if you think that Nazis
> are imaginary.

No, the Nazis are in the past, except for a few noisy, impotent groups
of misfits, who call themselves "Nazis".  Your full-blown Nazi party
still governing Germany and the US is totally imaginary.  Again, you
did not learn of your Nazis and their ear-implants from anyone; you
simply know all this information without having learned it.  This is
one of the symptoms of schizophrenia.

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The real Barbara Schwarz - 13 Jan 2004 22:55 GMT
> > Why should I waste my time explaining it to you, Stefano, after all
> > the abuse that you had for me in earlier postings?
>
> For the same reason you waste your time posting here in the first
> place:  to get people to believe what you say.  So far, no one
> believes anything you have said.

You are wrong in first and second sentence. I post mainly because I
don't know how much time I have. If the SEGNPMSS blows my light out,
so to speak, I at least posted what I know about them. I don't try to
convince fools, Stefano. It's true that there are many fools on earth,
but not all people are stupid. Only stupid people believe that all are
as stupid as they are.


> But actually, you =cannot= explain where you got this information,
> because if you search your memory, you will notice that you did not
> hear it from anyone, or read it anywhere.

Who are you to make such an allegation? You never met me, you never
spoke to me. You never had access to my mind nor memory. You know
nothing.

 You just know it without
> having learned it.  This is one of the symptoms of schizophrenia.

Would you please post your credentials in the field of mental health,
Stefano?


> > You apparently missed all your history lessons if you think that Nazis
> > are imaginary.
>
> No, the Nazis are in the past, except for a few noisy, impotent groups
> of misfits, who call themselves "Nazis".

I lived in Germany. Did you? I know a lot more that they are not gone
than you.

 Your full-blown Nazi party
> still governing Germany and the US is totally imaginary.

That is what all the remote controlled German Nazi agents are saying.

 Again, you
> did not learn of your Nazis and their ear-implants from anyone;

Why do I have to learn from anybody? Why can't I make my own
discoveries?
you
> simply know all this information without having learned it.  This is
> one of the symptoms of schizophrenia.

You are wasting my time, Stefano. You are a man without IQ and
character.

P.S. Postings with e-mail address Barbara_Schwarz@emailaccount.com and
identity Barbara_Schwarz and Truth Speaker 2 are not done by me. Those
are forgeries of criminal, Aids infected gay lunatic Garry Lynn Scarff
and fanatical Dave Touretzky defender. And Frederic Rice, another
fierce David Touretzky defender is as little a de Rothschild as a
dirty slimy and greasy punch bag is an impressive man.

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Mark Dallara
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Alexander Dvorkin
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Valerie Emanuel
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Vickki Ford Cook
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Phil Georgi
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Barbara Graham
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Gregg Hagglund
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Joe Lynn
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Kady O'Malley
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Michael Pattinson
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Rick Ross
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Stefano MacGregor - 14 Jan 2004 04:18 GMT
>> But actually, you =cannot= explain where you got this information,
>> because if you search your memory, you will notice that you did not
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> spoke to me. You never had access to my mind nor memory. You know
> nothing.

I may never have met you, but I see much of what you post here, and I
accuse you of not being =able= to tell us where you heard that
President Eisenhower was assassinated while in office, and you could
prove me wrong by revealing your source of this information.

But you cannot prove me wrong, because you cannot give any such
information.

In fact, you have never given us one reference to any information that
could validate any of your unbelievable claims, of Eisenhower's
assassination, of the city under the Great Salt Lake, of the Nazi ear
implants, of your marriage to Marty, or anything else.  None of this
=can= be substantiated, of course.

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