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Echocardiogram really necessary?

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jay-n-123@verizon.net - 19 Jun 2008 05:13 GMT
I'm 43 years old.  For the past few years I've been experiencing skipped
beats (actually premature beats).  During a recent stressful time period
they were happening at least every couple of days.  Also, once every 2 or 3
months I've experienced what seems like a double speed pulse for a few
seconds (at most) and then the pulse goes back to normal.  I never had any
of this checked out, but recently went for a routine physical and they did
an EKG, and the doctor said it looked normal.

For the past couple of months, I've mostly eliminated caffeine, and the
skipped beats are happening less often, and are harder to notice when
happening, but may be still be happening once or twice a week.   I did still
recently experience a couple of seconds of a double-speed beat when I was
lying in bed watching TV.   Neither of the 2 symptoms have happened when I
am exercising.

The doctor who did the routine physical is recommending a cardiologist to be
on the safe side.  The cardiologist's office says that  require that new
patients get an Echocardiogram done during the first visit.  Problem is that
my insurance has limits on how much per year they will pay for diagnostic
tests, and so I don't think they will be covering the cost since I believe I
am closet to the limit for diagnostic tests in 2008.

Given the costs, which I expect to be anywhere from $425 to $850, is the
Echocardiogram really likely to be of use in diagnosing what I've been
experiencing?    Would it be crazy to wait 6 months and then have it done at
the start of 2009, or would that actually be the smart thing to do?

Thanks,

Jay
jay-n-123@verizon.net - 19 Jun 2008 05:37 GMT
To be clear, I'm not getting multiple skipped beats per day.  Maybe one or
two individual skipped beats per week since I've cut down on caffeine.

> I'm 43 years old.  For the past few years I've been experiencing skipped
> beats (actually premature beats).  During a recent stressful time period
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> Jay
Pramesh Rutaji - 19 Jun 2008 05:52 GMT
I found caffeine would eliminate PVCs for me for several hours.  I also
never got PVCs while exercising.

> To be clear, I'm not getting multiple skipped beats per day.  Maybe one
> or two individual skipped beats per week since I've cut down on caffeine.
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>> Jay

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD - 19 Jun 2008 08:26 GMT
It would be wise to seek a consultation with a cardiologist who is
willing to interview and examine you **before** recommending any
testing.

Prayerfully in the awesome name of LORD Jesus Christ,

Andrew <><
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> To be clear, I'm not getting multiple skipped beats per day.  Maybe one or
> two individual skipped beats per week since I've cut down on caffeine.
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> > Jay
Pramesh Rutaji - 19 Jun 2008 05:50 GMT
> I'm 43 years old.  For the past few years I've been experiencing skipped
> beats (actually premature beats).  During a recent stressful time period
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> pay for diagnostic tests, and so I don't think they will be covering the
> cost since I believe I am closet to the limit for diagnostic tests in 2008.

Tell them no to the echocardiogram explaining that you have financial
limits.

> Given the costs, which I expect to be anywhere from $425 to $850, is the
> Echocardiogram really likely to be of use in diagnosing what I've been
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> Jay

Magnesium Citrate is often the solution to PVCs/PACs.  Magnesium Citrate
is 16% magnesium and is well absorbed.  I take about 500 mg/day.  That
and CoQ10 600/900 mg/day have almost eliminated them while statin drugs
cause them in my case.  Most people use less CoQ10.

Do you take a statin drug like Lipitor, Provochol, Zocor, Crestor, etc?

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jay-n-123@verizon.net - 19 Jun 2008 06:11 GMT
Thanks for the reply.  I don't take any of those drugs you mentioned.  When
the skipped beats first started happening, I was in the habit of taking a
very small dose of benedryl at night due to having trouble falling asleep.
I was taking half a tablet, which is almost nothing since you can take up to
two tablets.  I stopped a year or two ago, and since it's still happening, I
don't think that had anything to do with the heart beats.

Could anything in my multivitamin be causing my symptoms?  I take a
multivitamin called "Formula 100 With Beta Carotine" from Puritan :

http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.asp?xs=80DFB9B4FC774F7D8FA6CDF3ADDB5F22&PID=19
7&CID=67&CPID=1291&rlid
=

I've been taking similar multivitamins for 20 years, so those likely aren't
the cause.

> Do you take a statin drug like Lipitor, Provochol, Zocor, Crestor, etc?
Jeff - 20 Jun 2008 02:36 GMT
> The doctor who did the routine physical is recommending a cardiologist
> to be on the safe side.  The cardiologist's office says that  require
> that new patients get an Echocardiogram done during the first visit.  
> Problem is that my insurance has limits on how much per year they will
> pay for diagnostic tests, and so I don't think they will be covering the
> cost since I believe I am closet to the limit for diagnostic tests in 2008.

Can you see a different cardiologist?

Jeff
 
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