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Why not brain scan criminals like Ian Huntley ?

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Habshi - 17 Dec 2003 23:22 GMT
    No sane human being can murder 10 year olds by design .
It must be a brain problem and maybe we should MRI , PET and SPECT
scan every male at 21 to spot potential murderers

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Davidson's theory is based on certain images. He compared the brain
activity of 500 violent criminals to non-violent people.

Richard Davidson, Ph.D.: "In individuals who are prone to impulsive
aggression and impulsive violence, there is a very pronounced decrease
in activation in regions of the prefrontal cortex."

Studies of several serial killers have show differences both in size
and activity in their brains. Now scientists are going one step
further. They're trying to obtain "fingerprints" of the brain showing
specific responses to criminal activity.

This technology was developed by neuroscientist Larry Farwell to be
able to identify criminal behavior with far more accuracy than a lie
detector test.

Larry Farwell, Ph.D., Neuroscientist: "Brain fingerprinting is a
scientific technology that discovers the truth."

Words or images associated with an incident such as a crime are shown
to the suspect.

Larry Farwell, Ph.D.: "If he recognizes it, we get that response. We
can tell, 'Ah-ha, this guy is the perpetrator.'"

It works by measuring a murmur in the brain, a response associated
with recognition.

Larry Farwelll, Ph.D.: "It doesn't matter if the person is lying. It
doesn't matter if they're anxious or nervous, brain fingerprinting
simply measures, is information stored in the brain?"

This knowledge may lead to future solutions.

Richard Davidson, Ph.D.: "Now that we know a little bit more about
what these brain abnormalities are, more specific interventions can be
targeted."

An Iowa judge allowed brain-fingerprinting evidence in a murder
convict's appeal for a new trial. However, the judge ultimately
Huntley guilty of Soham murders


Huntley murdered 10-year-olds Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman
Ian Huntley has been found guilty of the murders of Soham schoolgirls
Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman and given two life sentences.
As the verdicts came in, it emerged Huntley, 29, had been accused of
having sex with underage girls and of rape several times in the past.

Amid criticism of the vetting procedure that allowed Huntley to get a
job as a school caretaker, Home Secretary David Blunkett ordered an
inquiry.

Maxine Carr, 26, was given three-and-a-half years for conspiring to
pervert the course of justice but cleared of two counts of assisting
an offender.

She could be free and electronically tagged within 30 days, because
she has already spent 16 months in jail.

Huntley was taken to Belmarsh Prison in south-east London after
sentencing.

Jessica's father, Leslie Chapman, described Huntley as a "timebomb
just ready to go off", adding, "unfortunately our girls were in the
wrong place at the wrong time".

'Few worse crimes'

Sentencing Huntley, Mr Justice Moses said he had displayed "merciless
cynicism" after killing the 10-year-old best friends.

 The next time I'd like to see him was how we last saw our daughters
and that was in a coffin

Leslie Chapman

Soham inquiry team praised
Judge's tribute to girls' parents  

The judge said: "You murdered them both. You are the one person who
knows how you murdered them, you are the one person who knows why."

He said: "There are few worse crimes than your murder of those two
young girls".

Huntley was told he added to the families' grief by pretending to help
search for the "much loved" 10-year-olds and by offering words of
sympathy to Holly's father.

'Wrong place'

Later at a press conference, Mr Chapman said of Huntley: "The next
time I'd like to see him was how we last saw our daughters and that
was in a coffin."

He said he hoped Huntley would one day have "the guts" to publicly
explain what happened on the night the girls died.

Kevin Wells, father of Holly, said he hoped the Home Office inquiry
would ensure "no other families have to endure what we have over the
past 16 months".  PREVIOUS ALLEGATIONS AGAINST IAN HUNTLEY
One of indecent assault
Four of underage sex
Three of rape - one resulted in a charge

Huntley slipped past police checks
Full list of allegations  

Prime Minister Tony Blair praised both sets of parents for their
"tremendous dignity".

Det Chief Supt Chris Stevenson, who led the search for the girls, said
Huntley was a "calculating and callous child killer".

He said only Huntley knew why he had killed Holly and Jessica, adding:
"Perhaps one day he might demonstrate a sliver of humanity and explain
why he did what he did on that terrible day last August."

The chief constable of Humberside Police admitted that the force made
several mistakes before clearing Ian Huntley to work with children in
Soham.

It is now known that North East Lincolnshire Social Services had
received four complaints of underage sexual relations against Huntley
in the late 1990s.

They said none of the victims wanted to make a formal complaint, so
there was nothing they could do against him.

On Wednesday, the council's chief executive Jim Leivers said he
welcomed the verdicts and that the council's thoughts were with the
parents and families of the murdered girls.

 

Girls' families react to verdict
'Astounding dignity' of families  

Humberside Police said he was reported to them eight times by alleged
victims, and he was also arrested once for failure to appear at court.

There were also three allegations of rape against Huntley.

One investigation resulted in a charge, in May 1998, but the case
never came to court as the CPS was not hopeful of a conviction and
dropped the case.

Police operation

Holly and Jessica vanished from Soham on 4 August 2002.

Their bodies were found in a ditch on 17 August, after one of the
biggest police operations the UK has ever seen.

As the jury returned two 11 to 1 majority verdicts on Huntley, the
Wells family hugged each other and sobbed.

A hushed "yes" resounded around the courtroom but Huntley showed no
emotion.

The jury also returned a majority 11 to 1 verdict on Carr's lesser
charge of conspiring to pervert the course of justice.

Sexual motivation

Huntley had admitted Holly and Jessica had died at his home and he
dumped their bodies, but claimed it was an accident.

 

Profile: Maxine Carr  

In court, Huntley said Holly died after falling into his bath, and he
killed Jessica by putting his hand over her mouth to stop her
screaming.

But the prosecution laid out an alternative version of events - that
Huntley lured Holly and Jessica into his house, possibly with a sexual
motivation, and murdered them when his plan went wrong.

It said he then coldly went about destroying the evidence and trying
to hide his involvement to police, press and local residents.

Rugby player

Carr admitted to the court that she had lied to police to provide an
alibi for her boyfriend on the weekend the girls disappeared.

She had claimed to be with him in Soham, but in fact had been in
Grimsby with a 17-year-old rugby player with whom she was having an
affair.
Habshi - 17 Dec 2003 23:24 GMT
In October 1991, Richard Lucio de Hoyos, pleaded not guilty by reason
of
insanity for the kidnapping and killing a 9-year-old girl. A PET scan
indicated that he might have suffered blunt-force trauma injuries to
the right frontal lobe of his brain possibly resulting in loss of
inhibition.

In January 1992, Gregory Scott Smith, pleaded guilty to the kidnap,
rape, and murder of an 8-year-old boy. A brain scan indicated slower
than normal processing in the frontal and temporal lobes of Smith^?s
brain.

In January 1998, Alan Brett Holland, a convicted killer of a
65-year-old woman was shown to have an asymmetrical brain. His defense
attorney tried to argue that exposure to pesticides as a child
impaired his judgment
Habshi - 17 Dec 2003 23:28 GMT
Diet of fish 'can prevent' teen violence

New study reveals that the root cause of crime may be biological, not
social

Gaby Hinsliff, chief political correspondent
Sunday September 14, 2003
The Observer

Feeding children a diet rich in fish could prevent violent and
anti-social behaviour in their teens, according to research to be
announced this week which suggests the root causes of crime may be
biological rather than social.

The study raises major questions over the extent to which criminals
exercise free will, as well as fuelling fresh debate over whether
simple childhood interventions might be more use in preventing crime
than blaming parents or organising draconian crackdowns on crime.

Professor Adrian Raine, a leading psychologist at the University of
California, will outline a growing body of evidence showing that
violent offenders have physical defects in a part of the brain linked
to decision-making and self-control - which may make them more likely
to lash out.

Raine's latest research, to be unveiled this week in Sheffield, looked
at whether brain deficits could be avoided by action in the early
years when the tissue is still developing.

A group of three-year-olds from Mauritius were given an intensive
programme of enriched diet, exercise and cognitive stimulation, which
included being read to and involved in conversation. By the age of 11
they demonstrated increased brain activity on brain scan read-outs,
and by 23 they were 64 per cent less likely than a control group of
children not on the programme to have criminal records.

'This is not the silver bullet to solving crime and violence, but I
think it's certainly one of the ingredients,' said Raine, a former
prison psychologist.
Steve Shires - 05 Jan 2004 13:55 GMT
> No sane human being can murder 10 year olds by design .
> It must be a brain problem and maybe we should MRI , PET and SPECT
> scan every male at 21 to spot potential murderers

Sadly, the impulse to sexually abuse and then murder just about anyone
has proved to be much more common than might have been supposed in the
light of media disclosures about such activity. Typically, it is
carried out by obsessive individuals or troops in occupied countries
but only one common factor appears to dominate, the opportunity to
commit the offence but escape detection. This is hardly the case for
Ian Huntley, who in any case made no attempt to escape the law. He
merely denied responsability for the murders and, in spite of
supposedly overwhelming forensic evidence against him, not a single
bit of which was directly related to the victims' bodies, the Crown
Prosecution Service took 15 months to bring him to trial. Committing
the murders locally would also represent a way of *not* escaping
detection and fails to fit the m.o. of most murderers. It also has no
connection with Huntley's previous behaviour, he was never even
charged with causing anyone's death on a previous occasion.
   There are, however, plenty of candidates who would fit the common
profile perfectly; US servicemen in transit from one country to
another, stopping briefly at a base, committing whatever perverted
crime they have in mind upon member(s) of the local population and
then moving on before they can be apprehended or, often enough, before
the crime has even been discovered. If the girl's bodies had not been
discovered in the vicinity of USAF Lakenheath this consideration might
not need to be taken too seriously. However, in view of the proximity
of the bodies to the base, it must be regarded as a gross dereliction
of duty by the Cambridgeshire police that they did not begin their
investigation in USAF Lakenheath itself. In their line of work they
could hardly be unaware of what 'US army bases always do - breed hard
drugs dealing and a wide variety of brothels including paedophiliac
'fun-rooms'.' (source, Dervla Murphy's 'Embers of Chaos'). Like the
case of Dr. David Kelly's 'suicide' this one has 'politically
motivated cover-up' written all over it.

Steve Shires.

> excerpt
> Davidson's theory is based on certain images. He compared the brain
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> able to identify criminal behavior with far more accuracy than a lie
> detector test.....................
Habshi - 05 Jan 2004 23:05 GMT
>. If the girl's bodies had not been
discovered in the vicinity of USAF Lakenheath this consideration might
not need to be taken too seriously. However, in view of the proximity
of the bodies to the base, it must be regarded as a gross dereliction
of duty by the Cambridgeshire police that they did not begin their
investigation in USAF Lakenheath itself.<

    You are a moron . Lakenheath is fifty miles or so and there
are tens of bases . Besides the girls bodies were not discovered till
after they arrested Huntley .
    Huntly is a criminal and brain scans will show frontal lobe
damage .
Steve Shires - 08 Jan 2004 15:33 GMT
> >. If the girl's bodies had not been
> discovered in the vicinity of USAF Lakenheath this consideration might
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Lakenheath is fifty miles or so and there
> are tens of bases .

Jessica and Hollys' bodies were found next to the perimeter fence at
USAF Lakenheath. Look the location up on a map.

> Besides the girls bodies were not discovered till
> after they arrested Huntley .

You mean, that's how the news releases were arranged.

>     Huntly is a criminal and brain scans will show frontal lobe
> damage .

You are a moron . And you can't spell Huntley's name correctly two
times in a row.

Steve Shires.
Habshi - 08 Jan 2004 16:14 GMT
You mean, that's how the news releases were arranged.<

    Typical brainless conspiracist , believing things without a
shred of evidence. Huntley has confessed to their killing by the way.
Steve Shires - 10 Jan 2004 14:30 GMT
> You mean, that's how the news releases were arranged.<
>
>     Typical brainless conspiracist , believing things without a
> shred of evidence. Huntley has confessed to their killing by the way.

If someone pumped disorientating drugs into you for 15 months you'd
say the same as him in the dock, or anything you were told to say to
get away from the torture they put him through. Come to think of it,
15 hours could be enough. And he never did confess to murder, though
his brief Coward must have told him he was doing the equivalent to
confessing to it with strong possibility that the judge would take dim
view of his apparent evasion should he be found guilty. Plus the media
had already found him guilty, about a year before his trial. There is
obviously too much in this case that doesn't add up. Unless you can't
add in the first place, that is.

Steve Shires.
 
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