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Sal_55 - 21 Mar 2008 11:13 GMT

I am a Uk citizen, born in England but of Pakistani, Kashmiri origin.
NONE of the anti-depressants I've tried have had much of an impact on
my derpession. So I want to know the best way of finding any natural
herbs. Or other drugs which have a proven efficiacy in treatng people
of Kashmiri genes for depression. But how do I find the relevant
information?
Thanks and bye

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Larry Hoover - 21 Mar 2008 13:50 GMT

>I am a Uk citizen, born in England but of Pakistani, Kashmiri origin.
> NONE of the anti-depressants I've tried have had much of an impact on
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> information?
> Thanks and bye

I know of no antidepressant therapies that are race-specific. St. John's
wort (Hypericum perforatum) is the most-prescribed antidepressant in
Germany, where it is prepared using stringent quality control standards. You
can also use more than the "standard" dose of 900 mg/day, up to the point
where side effects become intolerable. There is no known toxic threshold to
be concerned with. There is also the Ayurvedic herb Ashwagandha (Withania
somnifera), which has many antidepressant and sleep regulating properties.
You might also try Rhodiola rosea (a.k.a. golden root, or rose root), which
is an adaptogen with antidepressant properties. Any of these can also be
augmented with Siberian Ginseng (Eleutherococcus senticosus), also an
adaptogen, but you should only consider the combination after you've
titrated to a comfortable dose of the primary herb.

Best,
Lar

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Sal_55 - 21 Mar 2008 14:49 GMT

> >I am a Uk citizen, born in England but of Pakistani, Kashmiri origin.
> > NONE of the anti-depressants I've tried have had much of an impact on
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> Best,
> Lar

Thanks for the adivce Larry. But let's take a step back: Humans
evolved in many different environments; the cold of europe, the heat
of africa and the temperate temperatures of Pakistan. To think we
evolved the same genes for depression in such varied environements is
faintly ridiculous.
That's why I'm intrerested in herbs used by 'Shamans' in ancient
Pakistan. Maybe some Euros should be researching herbs used by druids
in pre-christian europe. After all the Shamans have had thousdands of
years through trial and eror to find the best herbs to treat
depression. Whereas drug companies like Glaxo have onlt had like 50
years or so. Hence why I think the antidepressants are no more
effective than placebos. Anyone be kind enough to point me in the
right direction of any online texts on ancient herbs/plants used to
treat depression?
I have a bottle of St John's Wort in front of me, and I'm wary of
using it. Because I read that it eliminates all emotions. Since my
depression means I already have no emotions or libido, I can't risk
further reducing my non-existant primal urges.
Bye friends.

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Nom dePlume - 22 Mar 2008 06:44 GMT

> Thanks for the adivce Larry. But let's take a step back: Humans
> evolved in many different environments; the cold of europe, the heat
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> right direction of any online texts on ancient herbs/plants used to
> treat depression?

Larry just did, but you do not seem interested.

> I have a bottle of St John's Wort in front of me, and I'm wary of
> using it. Because I read that it eliminates all emotions.

Every antidepressant that works, works by modifying neurotransmitter
chemistry. It should not be a surprise that there are times when the
modifications go in the wrong direction, given that you don't know in
advance what the right direction is. So even if you find some fantastic
Pakistani shamanistic antidepressant herbs, you will run exactly the same
risk.

Like Larry said, St. John's Wort is quite safe. You risk very little by
trying it, and if you don't like the effects, stop taking it.

> Since my
> depression means I already have no emotions or libido, I can't risk
> further reducing my non-existant primal urges.
> Bye friends.

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