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Cannabis buzz makes me fearful.
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Sal_55 - 13 Mar 2008 01:27 GMT I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual feelings, no hunger pangs, great difficulty feeling pleasure from work or any other activities, severe ocd and also severe anxiety. When I smoke weed I don't get too great a buzz. In fact I hardly feel any pleasure at all. But my numbness based depression increases in intensity. Also, my anxiety and paranoid feelings increase rapidly too. I have only tried one drug so far to help lower these anxious feelings when smoking pot, namely Diazepam. It did slightly reduce the intensity of the anxiety, but my heart rate was still racing very fast and I was also still fairly paranoid. Anyone know of any other drugs which might reduce these feelings whilst smoking weed? Also, are there any products that might be available in Health food stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis? Bye friends.
big daddy framer - 13 Mar 2008 02:35 GMT > I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from > severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis? > Bye friends. Get better weed. HTH.
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Sal_55 - 13 Mar 2008 03:38 GMT On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer" <mountainfra...@mountainhigh.inc.com> wrote:
> > I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from > > severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for $20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local thugs had a very high THC content, compared to the THC percentage even a few years back. Wouldn't the high THC content alone be enough to eliminate all the depressive symptoms I feel when I'm high? If I had a friend from Holland who was kind enough to send me some of this weed, in exchange for me posting them the money for it to them. Or even easier for me, if I was allowed to send them the money and an extra bonus via Paypal? Then what would be the best strain of weed for the kind of depression I suffer from? Would anyone who either grows weed suitable for depression or can buy it, be kind enough to post it to me? No Jose, I'm not the person you're thinking I am. I am in England, not America. And I am most defintely not a troll.
Jose - 13 Mar 2008 03:46 GMT > I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for > $20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local > thugs had a very high THC content, compared to the THC percentage even > a few years back. > Wouldn't the high THC content alone be enough to eliminate all the > depressive symptoms I feel when I'm high? NO! cannabis only intensifies those feelings ================================
> If I had a friend from Holland who was kind enough to send me some of > this weed, in exchange for me posting them the money for it to them. > Or even easier for me, if I was allowed to send them the money and an > extra bonus via Paypal? Then what would be the best strain of weed for > the kind of depression I suffer from? NONE It intensifys the problem see a DR and get some anti depressants, pal =================
Would anyone who either grows
> weed suitable for depression or can buy it, be kind enough to post it > to me? > No Jose, I'm not the person you're thinking I am. I am in England so was the Sal who was on here some time ago that was why I asked
He was scottish and from england ====================================
dogtop - 13 Mar 2008 08:55 GMT > > I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for > > $20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > He was scottish and from england > ==================================== f.ck
Andyfothershops - 14 Mar 2008 00:24 GMT On Mar 13, 1:46 pm, Jose <jose...@ziplip.com> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 7:38 pm, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > He was scottish and from england > ==================================== Scottish AND from England
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CW - 03 Apr 2008 03:28 GMT On Mar 12, 7:38 pm, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for > $20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local > thugs had a very high THC content, compared to the THC percentage even > a few years back. > Wouldn't the high THC content alone be enough to eliminate all the > depressive symptoms I feel when I'm high? NO! cannabis only intensifies those feelings ================================
> If I had a friend from Holland who was kind enough to send me some of > this weed, in exchange for me posting them the money for it to them. > Or even easier for me, if I was allowed to send them the money and an > extra bonus via Paypal? Then what would be the best strain of weed for > the kind of depression I suffer from? NONE It intensifys the problem see a DR and get some anti depressants, pal =================
Would anyone who either grows
> weed suitable for depression or can buy it, be kind enough to post it > to me? > No Jose, I'm not the person you're thinking I am. I am in England so was the Sal who was on here some time ago that was why I asked
He was scottish and from england ================================
Listen to Jose on this one. I'm bipolar. I'm currently taking Lamictal and Effexor. With these two, I'm doing fine. It took a while to find the stuff that works (find a QUALIFIED doctor). Without my meds, weed has a very bad effect on me. Depending on the circumstances, it will make me either extremly parinoid or extremely sad. Sometmes both. Get your head strait first before doing any more weed.
dogtop - 13 Mar 2008 08:53 GMT > On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer" > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > - Show quoted text - check your kidney function first before you take synthetics JOSE f.ck of you got shares a Pharmacy? FDA or some thing you feel paranoid for a physiological reason and why the f.ck would you not feel depressed look at te state of the world cut the water pipe vaporize is best for purity and econimy and check for mold as you may recall the persecuted and even burnt a lot of witches all because of a mold that was present in rye cereal in bread that caused trippin Phalaris Grass is also host to a mold when fermented you speed! stick your synthetics up you bum Jose
Andyfothershops - 14 Mar 2008 00:21 GMT On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer" <mountainfra...@mountainhigh.inc.com> wrote:
> "Sal_55" <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > - Show quoted text - I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for $20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local thugs had a very high THC content, compared to the THC percentage even a few years back. Wouldn't the high THC content alone be enough to eliminate all the depressive symptoms I feel when I'm high? If I had a friend from Holland who was kind enough to send me some of this weed, in exchange for me posting them the money for it to them. Or even easier for me, if I was allowed to send them the money and an extra bonus via Paypal? Then what would be the best strain of weed for the kind of depression I suffer from? Would anyone who either grows weed suitable for depression or can buy it, be kind enough to post it to me? No Jose, I'm not the person you're thinking I am. I am in England, not America. And I am most defintely not a troll.
Weed just isn't for everyone Sal. I hate the stuff unless Im drunk. Try alcohol, though not so you are too pissed.
If you dont like it, stop doing it
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bonghitsforme - 15 Mar 2008 00:33 GMT > On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer" > [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > - Show quoted text - my man gets really bad anxity when he smokes with others,,, He can only smoke with me or he will lose his mind. I am more of a party girl myself and i can smoke anywhere, and with anyone but he f.cking wiggs on anything.
I suggest what he does... Just drink when you smoke... Before you smoke herb, drink a 40 or a couple of tall cans and then roll yourself a fatty. Works every time. He is also very depressive and this perks his a.s right up. Alcohol as a chemical will calm your mind down and ease your thoughts. I would have to agree with Jose on this one. If alcohol doesn't work by itself... drink a beer and grab some form of benzo or something. It should make all the difference in the world.
Sal_55 - 04 Apr 2008 16:32 GMT > > On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer" > [quoted text clipped - 68 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thanks for the tip. Can't believe I missed something as obvious as drinking some beer 30 minutes before taking weed. Bye.
freek - 04 Apr 2008 18:10 GMT If alcohol doesn't work by itself... drink a beer and grab some
> form of benzo or something. It should make all the difference in the > world> Thanks for the tip. Can't believe I missed something as obvious as drinking some beer 30 minutes before taking weed. Bye.
Sure grab a beer, make that 20 beers, if it won't work what the hell why not add a benzo lets make it 50 benzo's ouchh almost forgot the 'fatty' to roll before my head lands on the table. I know you mean well girly so the OP here, but this is just a miniscule tiny bit to fast to 'grab' a number of substances if you like to smoke pot or hash. If all that above named sh.t is needed before you could even consider to smoke cannabis then cannabis is obviously not meant for whomever who needs the above FIRST. Cannabis works for most people, but not for everybody in that case i suggest DONT try it instead of doing it anyway with the 'help' of a load of bad sh.t well that is what i would suggest not to down whatever to be able to do cannabis. I do know lots of people with whom i used to smoke loads of hash 2 decades ago we went on started heroin few died most live and smoke heroin, but something weird is that well make it 9 out of ten previuous cannabis smokers ding dope for decades cant take it anymore and get anxious. Dont know why only know it does happen so logically when this is known cannabis is not even touched. If you know you react bad on a substance leave it then instead of covering the substance's bad effects with lots of other mindaltering substances. No offence meant here girly i am just a dutch guy and saw lots of people go down for just WANTING to do cannabis regardless feeling like sh.t, but this led to alcohol and whatever else abused, not needed to happen in lots of cases is what i think. Regards, Freek.
bonghitsforme - 05 Apr 2008 23:54 GMT > If alcohol doesn't work by itself... drink a beer and grab some > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > cases is what i think. > Regards, Freek. I agree with you. But it is something he could do.. I have horrible advice at times but i never use anything responsibly un less its my crazy meds. So ... yeah... no one listen to what i say. because its based on my own experiences which have led me to where i am today.
but in all honesty if everything is used correctly together it could help him. Like i said before it has helped a few people that i know including my boy friend. But he is an alcoholic and suffers from severe depression and mild mania. So i dont know.. Before he couldn't smoke green at all because he would be so freeked out and now he can enjoy it and socialize with others. It has also helped his depression a bit. So. I guess its really up to dude to figure out whats best for his body and mind.
but i do understand what your saying freek..
scoobie - 04 Apr 2008 18:23 GMT > > > On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer" > [quoted text clipped - 72 lines] > drinking some beer 30 minutes before taking weed. > Bye. Have to tried 5-HTP Sal??
If you like I'll send you some for free (it's legal in most places) and I really don't mind sending some to you if you like. I can send you enough to take each day for two weeks or so, so thjat you can see if it helps. Let me know if you want me to and if so then 'PING' me here or e-mail me.
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Sal_55 - 04 Apr 2008 19:02 GMT > > > > On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer" > [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thanks so much Scoobie for being so kind and generous enough to offer to send me some 5htp. but I've already tried that for depression,at many doses,and high quality 5HTP too, but it has no effect on me at all. But if you can post me 10 Benzos, I'd be very grateful, and can pay you via paypal whatever sum of money you want for them. Thanks again Scoobie (Scoobie Doo?!) Bye friend.
CW - 04 Apr 2008 20:31 GMT On 4 Apr, 18:23, scoobie <Mr.Sco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2:32 am, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Thanks so much Scoobie for being so kind and generous enough to offer to send me some 5htp. but I've already tried that for depression,at many doses,and high quality 5HTP too, but it has no effect on me at all. But if you can post me 10 Benzos, I'd be very grateful, and can pay you via paypal whatever sum of money you want for them. Thanks again Scoobie (Scoobie Doo?!) Bye friend.
See a doctor. You won't get over this yourself and likely you will make things worse.
~misfit~ - 04 Apr 2008 23:22 GMT Somewhere on teh intarweb "Sal_55" typed:
> But if you can post me 10 Benzos, I'd be very grateful, and can pay > you via paypal whatever sum of money you want for them. > Thanks again Scoobie (Scoobie Doo?!) > Bye friend. Salim, we don't need sh.t like this in this group (a.d.h.). What you are asking is illegal and that post would be all the excuse the DEA would need to have this group shut down (at least in the USA). Or they could track you and Scoobs. Unless of course *you* are the man. I've always got a weird vibe from you, perhaps that's it?
 Signature Shaun.
Sal_55 - 05 Apr 2008 07:44 GMT > Somewhere on teh intarweb "Sal_55" typed: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > -- > Shaun. misfit, I quite like your posts. I can see your point of view. But you're slighlty naive. There is far bigger and dangerous sh.t happening over the internet than a few benzos being traded. And I'm sure any DEA agent reading my posts would feel sorry for my broekn foot and let me have the 10 benzos. Salim.
Jose - 13 Mar 2008 02:41 GMT Stop smokin weed, ya trollin sob
Youre as bad as misfit~the snitch~ on here, only Shaunboy's weakness is underagers and ratting-out folks real life info on the internet as he IS the king-snitch of adh
I believe I remember you Sal ..... Were you not the Sal who was on here when Adamski was into his ADH ranting and was attempting to pre-empt the group with his wild bs stories and typical know-it-all attitude-- till he was shot down with his weird sexual deviancy posts he posted to alt.bsd? ----
Youre Scottish, right, Sal?
If not--sorry bro...... just ignore the rest....
But if you are the same person--wtf is your problem now bro? you seemed ok before when we chatted and you offered to give me a place to stay if I came over I would have done the same for you bro as I have plenty of room in the old tobacco warehouse loft I share now in the ind section here
---you do a lot of acid in the interim and fry the old grey matter--you poor syd barret wannabee????
If you have anxiety problems weed is the worst sh.t you can smoke for f.ck's sake The sh.t will make many people paranoid and if you have that propensity that's the worst sh.t you can do
Get yourself a benzo and a beer or if you DONT drink take a few mgs of phenobarb and a benzo and I guarantee you will feel better
dogtop - 13 Mar 2008 08:41 GMT > I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from > severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis? > Bye friends. GET YOUR THYROID FUNCTION CHECKED endocryne check kidneys and pitutary gland be ware of iodine intake and whats your BMI skinny of fat if you are large dont take calcium if you are thin get some soluible 1000mg tabs any way good luck being able to smoke it when you want with acertificate
~ky~ - 14 Mar 2008 04:01 GMT > Also, are there any products that might be available in Health food > stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis? L-Theanine Inositol
Pataprimate Pulpiteer Jack Slutmuffin, Esq. - 14 Mar 2008 04:53 GMT > I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from > severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis? > Bye friends. 5-htp, tryptophan, or gaba... but they'll make you sleepy. vitamins are good as a general body tonic, and putting hemp oil on your salads wouldn't hurt.
freek - 14 Mar 2008 19:12 GMT > I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from > severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis? > Bye friends. Hi Sal, like you know i am from holland and if it would be useful i would not mind to send you a small amount just for free i dont need money for a few grams of for example those potsorts with those interesting names like 'skunk' or 'white widow' and more, but cannabis products enhance the feeling you are in so when you feel bad upfront from smoking pot you feel like sh.t afterwards when you feel fine upfront you feel better. An opiate 'therapy' for your complaints, like suggested, looks like a bit overkill to me still in case of a decent amount of benzo like diazepam for example or else klonopin, clonazepam substance name rivotril brandname in lots of eurpean countries in 0.5 and 2 mg, for being long to medium long acting and medium potent to highly potent respectively. Like said, sorry i tend to be longwinded, if a decent amount of benzo's does not do the desired job then the risk is high yes, but your quality of life counts for more so when opiates can do something about that maybe something to consider, but definately not as first line of defense so forget about cannabis its no good for you, but get a benzo one who deals effectively with your complaints in that case xanax would be the one its only a f.cking addictive one, but therefore i mentioned klonopin both equal in potency, but klono has a few advantages above xanax like for one the longer action. I sent small amounts of substances to comrades around the world Sal like dexedrine, heroin and benzo's so why the hell should i mind a few gram cannabis, but i refuse to send something what would make you feel bad, f.ck the current THC percentage in dutch weed seems to be around 17% sometimes 23% compared to roughly 3-6% end 80ties from imported weed so more THC would make you feel more bad not better else if THC would be able to do the job for you then why not hashoil containing about 70-90% THC, less possible to get, but never impossible, more expensive yes also more subsance ofcourse, only no way i would send that and change your mental state into a psychotic one. Talking psychotic there are low potency anti psychotics like mellaril or nozinan or largactil (thorazine is largactil also seroquel or zyprexa or risperdal last three are a typical anty psychotics with a very good effect on anxiety) who have a strong action against anxiety without being addictive, but they do have non pleasant side effects maybe something to try for once to find out. For the rest better say goodbye to pot i know lots and lots of longterm opiate users with whom i smoked figural tons of weed and hash 2 decades currently barely anybody from those people can stand it anymore, why i dont know it causes bad feelings myself smokes only afghanistan hash 2 grams a week trough a pipe for not smoking ciggies anymore for some time, works fine. Anyway Sal no need to make this story even longer pot is no good for you see for a benzo in a decent dose else an anti psychotic like one of the named in last resort case maybe an opiate, but no amphetamines they will enhance anxiety strongly in your case. Good luck. Regards, Freek.
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