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Sal_55 - 13 Mar 2008 01:27 GMT
I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from
severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual
feelings, no hunger pangs, great difficulty feeling pleasure from work
or any other activities, severe ocd and also severe anxiety.
When I smoke weed I don't get too great a buzz. In fact I hardly feel
any pleasure at all. But my numbness based depression increases in
intensity. Also, my anxiety and paranoid feelings increase rapidly
too.
I have only tried one drug so far to help lower these anxious feelings
when smoking pot, namely Diazepam. It did slightly reduce the
intensity of the anxiety, but my heart rate was still racing very fast
and I was also still fairly paranoid.
Anyone know of any other drugs which might reduce these feelings
whilst smoking weed?
Also, are there any products that might be available in Health food
stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis?
Bye friends.
big daddy framer - 13 Mar 2008 02:35 GMT
> I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from
> severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual
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> stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis?
> Bye friends.

Get better weed. HTH.

big daddy framer
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Sal_55 - 13 Mar 2008 03:38 GMT
On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer"
<mountainfra...@mountainhigh.inc.com> wrote:

> > I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from
> > severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual
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>
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I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for
$20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local
thugs had a very high THC content, compared to the THC percentage even
a few years back.
Wouldn't the high THC content alone be enough to eliminate all the
depressive symptoms I feel when I'm high?
If I had a friend from Holland who was kind enough to send me some of
this weed, in exchange for me posting them the money for it to them.
Or even easier for me, if I was allowed to send them the money and an
extra bonus via Paypal? Then what would be the best strain of weed for
the kind of depression I suffer from? Would anyone who either grows
weed suitable for depression or can buy it, be kind enough to post it
to me?
No Jose, I'm not the person you're thinking I am. I am in England, not
America. And I am most defintely not a troll.
Jose - 13 Mar 2008 03:46 GMT
> I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for
> $20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local
> thugs had a very high THC content, compared to the THC percentage even
> a few years back.
> Wouldn't the high THC content alone be enough to eliminate all the
> depressive symptoms I feel when I'm high?

NO! cannabis only intensifies those feelings
================================

> If I had a friend from Holland who was kind enough to send me some of
> this weed, in exchange for me posting them the money for it to them.
> Or even easier for me, if I was allowed to send them the money and an
> extra bonus via Paypal? Then what would be the best strain of weed for
> the kind of depression I suffer from?

NONE
It intensifys the problem
see a DR and get some anti depressants, pal
=================

Would anyone who either grows
> weed suitable for depression or can buy it, be kind enough to post it
> to me?
> No Jose, I'm not the person you're thinking I am. I am in England

so was the Sal who was on here some time ago
that was why I asked

He was scottish and from england
====================================
dogtop - 13 Mar 2008 08:55 GMT
> > I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for
> > $20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local
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> He was scottish and from england
> ====================================

f.ck
Andyfothershops - 14 Mar 2008 00:24 GMT
On Mar 13, 1:46 pm, Jose <jose...@ziplip.com> wrote:
> On Mar 12, 7:38 pm, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> He was scottish and from england
> ====================================

Scottish AND from England

f.ck

A
CW - 03 Apr 2008 03:28 GMT
On Mar 12, 7:38 pm, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for
> $20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local
> thugs had a very high THC content, compared to the THC percentage even
> a few years back.
> Wouldn't the high THC content alone be enough to eliminate all the
> depressive symptoms I feel when I'm high?

NO! cannabis only intensifies those feelings
================================

> If I had a friend from Holland who was kind enough to send me some of
> this weed, in exchange for me posting them the money for it to them.
> Or even easier for me, if I was allowed to send them the money and an
> extra bonus via Paypal? Then what would be the best strain of weed for
> the kind of depression I suffer from?

NONE
It intensifys the problem
see a DR and get some anti depressants, pal
=================

Would anyone who either grows
> weed suitable for depression or can buy it, be kind enough to post it
> to me?
> No Jose, I'm not the person you're thinking I am. I am in England

so was the Sal who was on here some time ago
that was why I asked

He was scottish and from england
================================

Listen to Jose on this one. I'm bipolar. I'm currently taking Lamictal and
Effexor. With these two, I'm doing fine. It took a while to find the stuff
that works (find a QUALIFIED  doctor). Without my meds, weed has a very bad
effect on me. Depending on the circumstances, it will make me either
extremly parinoid or extremely sad. Sometmes both. Get your head strait
first before doing any more weed.
dogtop - 13 Mar 2008 08:53 GMT
> On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer"
>
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check your kidney function first before you take synthetics
JOSE f.ck of you got shares a Pharmacy? FDA or some thing
you feel paranoid for a physiological reason and why the f.ck would
you not feel depressed look at te state of the world cut the water
pipe vaporize is best for purity and econimy and check for mold as you
may recall the persecuted and even burnt a lot of witches all because
of a mold that was present in rye cereal in bread that caused trippin
Phalaris Grass is also host to a mold when fermented you speed!
stick your synthetics up you bum Jose
Andyfothershops - 14 Mar 2008 00:21 GMT
On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer"
<mountainfra...@mountainhigh.inc.com> wrote:
> "Sal_55" <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

I will admit currently I smoke cheap inner-city cannabis bought for
$20 a bag. However I thought that even this weed produced by the local
thugs had a very high THC content, compared to the THC percentage even
a few years back.
Wouldn't the high THC content alone be enough to eliminate all the
depressive symptoms I feel when I'm high?
If I had a friend from Holland who was kind enough to send me some of
this weed, in exchange for me posting them the money for it to them.
Or even easier for me, if I was allowed to send them the money and an
extra bonus via Paypal? Then what would be the best strain of weed for
the kind of depression I suffer from? Would anyone who either grows
weed suitable for depression or can buy it, be kind enough to post it
to me?
No Jose, I'm not the person you're thinking I am. I am in England, not
America. And I am most defintely not a troll.

Weed just isn't for everyone Sal. I hate the stuff unless Im drunk. Try
alcohol, though not so you are too pissed.

If you dont like it, stop doing it

A
bonghitsforme - 15 Mar 2008 00:33 GMT
> On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer"
>
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>
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my man gets really bad anxity when he smokes with others,,,  He can
only smoke with me or he will lose his mind.  I am more of a party
girl myself and i can smoke anywhere, and with anyone but he f.cking
wiggs on anything.

I suggest what he does...    Just drink when you smoke...  Before you
smoke herb, drink a 40 or a couple of tall cans and then roll yourself
a fatty.    Works every time.    He is also very depressive and this
perks his a.s right up.   Alcohol as a chemical will calm your mind
down and ease your thoughts.   I would have to agree with Jose on this
one.  If alcohol doesn't work by itself... drink a beer and grab some
form of benzo or something.   It should make all the difference in the
world.
Sal_55 - 04 Apr 2008 16:32 GMT
> > On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer"
>
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>
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Thanks for the tip. Can't believe I missed something as obvious as
drinking some beer 30 minutes before taking weed.
Bye.
freek - 04 Apr 2008 18:10 GMT
If alcohol doesn't work by itself... drink a beer and grab some
> form of benzo or something. It should make all the difference in the
> world>

Thanks for the tip. Can't believe I missed something as obvious as
drinking some beer 30 minutes before taking weed.
Bye.

Sure grab a beer, make that 20 beers, if it won't work what the hell why not
add a benzo lets make it 50 benzo's ouchh almost forgot the 'fatty' to roll
before my head lands on the table. I know you mean well girly so the OP
here, but this is just a miniscule tiny bit to fast to 'grab' a number of
substances if you like to smoke pot or hash. If all that above named sh.t is
needed before you could even consider to smoke cannabis then cannabis is
obviously not meant for whomever who needs the above FIRST. Cannabis works
for most people, but not for everybody in that case i suggest DONT try it
instead of doing it anyway with the 'help' of a load of bad sh.t well that
is what i would suggest not to down whatever to be able to do cannabis.
I do know lots of people with whom i used to smoke loads of hash 2 decades
ago we went on started heroin few died most live and smoke heroin, but
something weird is that well make it 9 out of ten previuous cannabis smokers
ding dope for decades cant take it anymore and get anxious. Dont know why
only know it does happen so logically when this is known cannabis is not
even touched. If you know you react bad on a substance leave it then instead
of covering the substance's bad effects with lots of other mindaltering
substances.
No offence meant here girly i am just a dutch guy and saw lots of people go
down for just WANTING to do cannabis regardless feeling like sh.t, but this
led to alcohol and whatever else abused, not needed to happen in lots of
cases is what i think.
Regards, Freek.
bonghitsforme - 05 Apr 2008 23:54 GMT
> If alcohol doesn't work by itself... drink a beer and grab some
>
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> cases is what i think.
> Regards, Freek.

I agree with you.   But it is something he could do.. I have horrible
advice at times but i never use anything responsibly un less its my
crazy meds.   So ... yeah...  no one listen to what i say.   because
its based on my own experiences which have led me to where i am
today.

but in all honesty if everything is used correctly together it could
help him.  Like i said before it has helped a few people that i know
including my boy friend.  But he is an alcoholic and suffers from
severe depression and mild mania. So i dont know..  Before he couldn't
smoke green at all because he would be so freeked out and now he can
enjoy it and socialize with others.   It has also helped his
depression a bit.   So.   I guess its really up to dude to figure out
whats best for his body and mind.

but i do understand what your saying freek..
scoobie - 04 Apr 2008 18:23 GMT
> > > On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer"
>
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> drinking some beer 30 minutes before taking weed.
> Bye.

Have to tried 5-HTP Sal??

If you like I'll send you some for free (it's legal in most places)
and I really don't mind sending some
to you if you like. I can send you enough to take each day for two
weeks or so, so thjat you can see if it helps.
Let me know if you want me to and if so then 'PING' me here or e-mail
me.

scoobs
Sal_55 - 04 Apr 2008 19:02 GMT
> > > > On 13 Mar, 01:35, "big daddy framer"
>
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Thanks so much Scoobie for being so kind and generous enough to offer
to send me some 5htp. but I've already tried that for depression,at
many doses,and high quality 5HTP too, but it has no effect on me at
all.
But if you can post me 10 Benzos, I'd be very grateful, and can pay
you via paypal whatever sum of money you want for them.
Thanks again Scoobie (Scoobie Doo?!)
Bye friend.
CW - 04 Apr 2008 20:31 GMT
On 4 Apr, 18:23, scoobie <Mr.Sco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 5, 2:32 am, Sal_55 <zaman_2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks so much Scoobie for being so kind and generous enough to offer
to send me some 5htp. but I've already tried that for depression,at
many doses,and high quality 5HTP too, but it has no effect on me at
all.
But if you can post me 10 Benzos, I'd be very grateful, and can pay
you via paypal whatever sum of money you want for them.
Thanks again Scoobie (Scoobie Doo?!)
Bye friend.

See a doctor. You won't get over this yourself and likely you will make
things worse.
~misfit~ - 04 Apr 2008 23:22 GMT
Somewhere on teh intarweb "Sal_55" typed:
> But if you can post me 10 Benzos, I'd be very grateful, and can pay
> you via paypal whatever sum of money you want for them.
> Thanks again Scoobie (Scoobie Doo?!)
> Bye friend.

Salim, we don't need sh.t like this in this group (a.d.h.). What you are
asking is illegal and that post would be all the excuse the DEA would need
to have this group shut down (at least in the USA). Or they could track you
and Scoobs. Unless of course *you* are the man. I've always got a weird vibe
from you, perhaps that's it?
Signature

Shaun.

Sal_55 - 05 Apr 2008 07:44 GMT
> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Sal_55" typed:
>
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> --
> Shaun.

misfit, I quite like your posts. I can see your point of view. But
you're slighlty naive. There is far bigger and dangerous sh.t
happening over the internet than a few benzos being traded. And I'm
sure any DEA agent reading my posts would feel sorry for my broekn
foot and let me have the 10 benzos.         Salim.
Jose - 13 Mar 2008 02:41 GMT
Stop smokin weed, ya trollin sob

Youre as bad as misfit~the snitch~ on here, only Shaunboy's weakness
is underagers and ratting-out folks real life info on the internet as
he IS the king-snitch of  adh

I believe I remember you Sal .....
Were you not the Sal who was on here when Adamski was into his ADH
ranting
and was attempting to pre-empt the group with his wild bs stories and
typical know-it-all attitude-- till he was shot down with his weird
sexual deviancy posts he posted to alt.bsd?
----

Youre Scottish, right, Sal?

If not--sorry bro...... just ignore the rest....

But if you are the same person--wtf is your problem now bro?
you seemed ok before when we chatted and you offered to give me a
place to stay if I came over  I would have done the same for you bro
as I have plenty of room in the old tobacco warehouse loft I share now
in the ind section here

---you do a lot of acid in the interim and fry the old
grey matter--you poor syd barret wannabee????

If you have anxiety problems weed is the worst sh.t you can smoke
for f.ck's sake
The sh.t will make many people paranoid and if you have that
propensity that's the worst sh.t you can do

Get yourself a benzo and a beer  or if you DONT drink take a few mgs
of phenobarb
and a benzo and I guarantee you will feel better
dogtop - 13 Mar 2008 08:41 GMT
> I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from
> severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis?
> Bye friends.

GET YOUR THYROID FUNCTION CHECKED endocryne check kidneys and pitutary
gland be ware of iodine intake and whats your BMI skinny of fat if you
are large dont take calcium if you are thin get some soluible 1000mg
tabs
any way good luck
being able to smoke it when you want with acertificate
~ky~ - 14 Mar 2008 04:01 GMT
> Also, are there any products that might be available in Health food
> stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis?

L-Theanine
Inositol
Pataprimate Pulpiteer Jack Slutmuffin, Esq. - 14 Mar 2008 04:53 GMT
> I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from
> severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis?
> Bye friends.

5-htp, tryptophan, or gaba... but they'll make you sleepy. vitamins
are good as a general body tonic, and putting hemp oil on your salads
wouldn't hurt.
freek - 14 Mar 2008 19:12 GMT
> I've had quite a troubled life so far. As a result I suffer from
> severe depression, which has the following main symptoms: No sexual
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> stores which might lower the anxiety I feel when I smoke cannabis?
> Bye friends.

Hi Sal, like you know i am from holland and if it would be useful i would
not mind to send you a small amount just for free i dont need money for a
few grams of for example those potsorts with those interesting names like
'skunk' or 'white widow' and more, but cannabis products enhance the feeling
you are in so when you feel bad upfront from smoking pot you feel like sh.t 
afterwards when you feel fine upfront you feel better.
An opiate 'therapy' for your complaints, like suggested, looks like a bit
overkill to me still in case of a decent amount of benzo like diazepam for
example or else klonopin, clonazepam substance name rivotril brandname in
lots of eurpean countries in 0.5 and 2 mg, for being long to medium long
acting and medium potent to highly potent respectively. Like said, sorry i
tend to be longwinded, if a decent amount of benzo's does not do the desired
job then the risk is high yes, but your quality of life counts for more so
when opiates can do something about that maybe something to consider, but
definately not as first line of defense so forget about cannabis its no good
for you, but get a benzo one who deals effectively with your complaints in
that case xanax would be the one its only a f.cking addictive one, but
therefore i mentioned klonopin both equal in potency, but klono has a few
advantages above xanax like for one the longer action.
I sent small amounts of substances to comrades around the world Sal like
dexedrine, heroin and benzo's so why the hell should i mind a few gram
cannabis, but i refuse to send something what would make you feel bad, f.ck 
the current THC percentage in dutch weed seems to be around 17% sometimes
23% compared to roughly 3-6% end 80ties from imported weed so more THC would
make you feel more bad not better else if THC would be able to do the job
for you then why not hashoil containing about 70-90% THC, less possible to
get, but never impossible, more expensive yes also more subsance ofcourse,
only no way i would send that and change your mental state into a psychotic
one. Talking psychotic there are low potency anti psychotics like mellaril
or nozinan or largactil (thorazine is largactil also seroquel or zyprexa or
risperdal last three are a typical anty psychotics with a very good effect
on anxiety) who have a strong action against anxiety without being
addictive, but they do have non pleasant side effects maybe something to try
for once to find out. For the rest better say goodbye to pot i know lots and
lots of longterm opiate users with whom i smoked figural tons of weed and
hash 2 decades currently barely anybody from those people can stand it
anymore, why i dont know it causes bad feelings myself smokes only
afghanistan hash 2 grams a week trough a pipe for not smoking ciggies
anymore for some time, works fine.
Anyway Sal no need to make this story even longer pot is no good for you see
for a benzo in a decent dose else an anti psychotic like one of the named in
last resort case maybe an opiate, but no amphetamines they will enhance
anxiety strongly in your case.
Good luck.
Regards, Freek.
 
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