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My Relative Has Lung Cancer!!    I Need Info Quickly!!

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midwest_46@yahoo.com - 26 Feb 2008 05:12 GMT
Hello, everyone. I have a relative who has lung cancer, and I need
some advice fast.

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First, I will give some background information. This relative is a
male and is 78 years old. In 1995, at age 65, he had a heart valve
replaced. A few years later, he developed oseteoporosis.

In January 2007, he had kidney cancer, and one kidney was removed via
laproscopic surgery. He was told that he was cancer-free. A month or
two later, he had swollen legs, and he had a pacemaker installed. The
swelling went down. A little after that, he developed Parkinson's
disease.

About 10 days ago, he went into the hospital because the sac
containing his lungs was filling up with fluid. The doctors put some
tube into his body to drain the fluid. When the fluid buildup seemed
over, the tube was removed. Unfortunately, the buildup resumed.

Well, now he has been diagnosed with lung cancer. This relative has
never smoked, and no member of his household has ever smoked
(therefore, no exposure to second-hand smoke). One lung has cancer,
and the cancer has spread to the sac that contains the lungs.

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Here is what the relative's primary-care physician has said:

One possibility is to perform a major operation to remove the sac
containing the lungs. The doctor said that, for a man of my relative's
age and of his medical history, this operation could be fatal. This
operation involves opening up the body, similar to open-heart surgery.

Even if the operation is not fatal, the recovery will be long and
painful, and the relative could die in the recovery process. We are
waiting for a pulmonary specialist to give the exact chances of
surviving the procedure.

Even if the procedure is completely successful, the procedure would
only go so far as to improve the patient's breathing. The cancerous
lung would still be there, and chemotherapy would be needed to deal
with the cancer.

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By the way, I should mention that the relative's brother died of a
brain tumor in February 2007 at age 69.

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So, here are my questions:

1) Does anyone on this forum know my relative's odds of surviving the
sac-removal operation, given my relative's age and medical history?

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2) Instead of the major operation, is it possible to have the
following alternative procedure instead? :

The draining tube would be reinserted to drain the fluid, thus making
the relative's breathing easier (even though the tube's presence
itself may be painful). While the tube was inside the relative, the
relative would undergo chemotherapy.

Is this procedure feasible?

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Please answer my questions, and please feel free to add any comments.
Thank you very much, and God bless you.
midwest_46@yahoo.com - 28 Feb 2008 08:11 GMT
Here is an update on this situation:

Some doctors found a way to remove the sac containing my relative's
lungs without causing significant damage, and the sac was removed.
However, the cancer obviously still remains.

A cancer specialist stated that my relative has stage 4
adenocarcinoma.

The cancer specialist stated that chemotherapy would be very dangerous
for my relative and would only slow the cancer down. So, chemotherapy
is a poor solution.

Radiation therapy would require the irradiation of the entire lung and
might destroy good and bad tissue. However, a recent article in the
Chicago Tribune described something called proton therapy.

Here is the article:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/northwest/chi-proton-therapyfeb27,0,179
2923.story


Here is a website explaining proton therapy:

http://www.proton-therapy.org/questions.htm

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Proton therapy supposedly precisely targets tumors and avoids the good
tissue.

So, will proton therapy help my relative?

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Two other possibilities are the following:

1) A lung transplant.

2) Simply removing the lung and allowing my relative to live with only
one lung.

Are either of these two options feasible?

Once again, thanks for any information.
Jeff - 28 Feb 2008 14:47 GMT
> Here is an update on this situation:
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> Once again, thanks for any information.

go to cancer.gov. That is the National Cancer institute. That site has
information has information about new treatments and clinical studies.
Use google and scholar.google.com to learn about that photon treatment
and other treatments. Be wary of alternative medicine, because most of
the treatments have not been prove. Ask the patient's doctors.

Use google to learn about hospice care, as well. Unfortunately, the
above treatments most likely won't work.

Jeff
midwest_46@yahoo.com - 03 Mar 2008 08:23 GMT
Well, my relative's doctors have said that 1) proton therapy, 2) a
lung transplant, and 3) removing my relative's cancerous lung and
allowing him to live with only one lung, are not feasible.

However, I have found some information about using medical marijuana
to fight cancer. In particular, a Harvard University study has found
that
delta-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), an active ingredient in marijuana,
may be able to fight lung cancer.

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Here is the story on the study:

http://www.safeaccessnow.org/article.php?id=4541

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Let me stress that this study is NOT about using cannabis to fight
nausea or to stimulate an appetite. This is about using cannabis to
fight the cancer itself. Specifically, the study is about using THC to
fight cancer.

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My relative lives in Illinois. Currently, there is a bill before the
Illinois legislature that would allow patients to possess marijuana
for medical purposes, but that bill has not yet been passed. However,
I believe that there is a law in Illinois that allow physicians to
possess marijuana for the purposes of research in a treatment
setting.
This law is the Illinois Cannabis Control Act, section 11.

http://www.idealreform.org/facts/ccact.shtml

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I spoke to one of my relative's pulmonologists about the marijuana,
and the doctor said that the hospital would not do anything with
marijuana because marijuana is illegal. Also, the doctor seemed to be
unaware of marijuana's potential in fighting cancer. The doctor said
that marijuana would not help my relative because the relative does
not have nausea. I will try to speak to my relative's other doctors.

Meanwhile, how can I get medical marijuana for my relative under the
Illinois Cannabis Control Act, section 11? Also, I am interested only
in one marijuana ingredient, THC. We know that possession of marijuana
is illegal, but is possession of THC, and only THC, also illegal?
And, most importantly, will the THC fight my relative's condition?

Thanks for any information.
bae@cs.toronto.no-uce.edu - 03 Mar 2008 15:40 GMT
>Well, my relative's doctors have said that 1) proton therapy, 2) a
>lung transplant, and 3) removing my relative's cancerous lung and
>allowing him to live with only one lung, are not feasible.

It's time for you to recognize that there is no ticket out for your
relative.  Advanced lung cancer is almost invariably fatal.

Instead of grasping at straws, consider devoting your efforts to
helping your relative get the most of his or her remaining time,
and cope with his or her fate.  Note that lung cancer usually
metastasizes to the brain, so your relative may begin to experience
neurological problems.

Ask the doctor if there is someone whom you can talk to about this.
Sometimes there are support groups for relatives of patients, or
you may be able to get information from a hospice.

I'm sorry that your relative has this disease and will most likely
soon die of it.  I can see that you want to do whatever you can for
this person.  It's time to redirect your efforts to the person, not
the disease.

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