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Medical Scientism lives on thanks to Wikipedia

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Mr. Natural-Health - 20 Jan 2008 18:36 GMT
I was able to resurrect an article of my mine that was supposedly
deleted from Wikipedia around Jan 2004. I found it on an obscure
mirror copy of Wikipedia. But, it turns out that talk page is actually
still on Wikipedia.

So, the morons at Wikipedia failed to delete the content of my
article. :)

Thus, with minimal effort on my part I was able to recreate that
article with minimal effort on my part.  Its new home is at:
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/gnu-dictionary/medical-scientism.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Medical_Scientism/Archive_1
"Historically the encyclopaedia is a characteristic project of the
Enlightenment intellectual (Diderot, Voltaire etc). It rests on the
assumption that there is an objective truth about all subjects, which
can be known to humans and discerned through scientific inquiry', and
written about dispassionately by the enlightened intellectual. WP
reflects this ideology as much as any other encyclopaedia, and so it
should.

If you cannot or will not accept the epistemological assumptions of
the encyclopedia, may I suggest that you should not write for that
encyclopedia. If all you want is a forum for your subjective rants, go
somewhere else. -- No-One Jones (talk) 04:26, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)

There is NO discussion about whether the policy of NPOV applies to the
articles you add your stuff to. NPOV is the rule you have to abide by.
You are free to fork wikipedia or to join (for example) an existing
fork (http://www.internet-encyclopedia.org) if you don't want to abide
by this policy. --snoyes 04:49, 17 Jan 2004 (UTC)"

Yes, I am free to folk Wikipedia, and here is the first version 2
article of my dictionary of alternative medicine.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/gnu-dictionary/medical-scientism.html

The stupidity of the Wikipedia morons / skeptics is truly refreshing.
Thanks, Wikipedia for being so stupid. :)
Mr. Natural-Health - 20 Jan 2008 18:46 GMT
> I was able to resurrect an article of my mine that was supposedly
> deleted from Wikipedia around Jan 2004. I found it on an obscure
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> The stupidity of the Wikipedia morons / skeptics is truly refreshing.
> Thanks, Wikipedia for being so stupid. :)

Those guys are dumber than I even thought.   The original article is
still on Wikipedia, along with all its history of revisions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medical_Scientism&oldid=2164762
Skeptic - 20 Jan 2008 19:05 GMT
>I was able to resurrect an article of my mine that was supposedly
> deleted from Wikipedia around Jan 2004. I found it on an obscure
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> So, the morons at Wikipedia failed to delete the content of my
> article. :)

Beware Wikipedia, in general.  It often has great and useful information.
It other times has very erroneous info and I've seen some medical articles
that are flat out sabotaged (intentionally).
Jan Drew - 22 Jan 2008 02:50 GMT
>>I was able to resurrect an article of my mine that was supposedly
>> deleted from Wikipedia around Jan 2004. I found it on an obscure
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> It other times has very erroneous info and I've seen some medical articles
> that are flat out sabotaged (intentionally).

I see you are posting to Mr. Natural- Health.
Right after Andrew Kingoff posted Wiki reference.
You wouldn't be selective, would you Brandon??
TC - 20 Jan 2008 19:50 GMT
> I was able to resurrect an article of my mine that was supposedly
> deleted from Wikipedia around Jan 2004. I found it on an obscure
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> The stupidity of the Wikipedia morons / skeptics is truly refreshing.
> Thanks, Wikipedia for being so stupid. :)

So the people at Wikipedia are the morons and are stupid...... I guess
that must make you a genius. okie dokie.
Mr. Natural-Health - 20 Jan 2008 20:09 GMT
> On Jan 20, 12:36 pm, "Mr. Natural-Health"
>
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> So the people at Wikipedia are the morons and are stupid...... I guess
> that must make you a genius. okie dokie.

No!  I am smarter than the average bear because I know that TC loves
to whine.
Cubit - 20 Jan 2008 21:09 GMT
>I was able to resurrect an article of my mine that was supposedly
> deleted from Wikipedia around Jan 2004. I found it on an obscure
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> The stupidity of the Wikipedia morons / skeptics is truly refreshing.
> Thanks, Wikipedia for being so stupid. :)

Your post clearly breaks the rules.  For example, you state that scientism
is a religion.  You assert this as fact, yet it is opinion.  Under NPOV, you
could have said that Dr. Tinfoil Hat believes that scientism is a religion,
as described in his article in Mad Magazine dated 4/1/2009....

It took me about 5 minutes to figure this out.  I had never heard of NPOV.
Mr. Natural-Health - 21 Jan 2008 03:12 GMT
> >I was able to resurrect an article of my mine that was supposedly
> > deleted from Wikipedia around Jan 2004. I found it on an obscure
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>
> It took me about 5 minutes to figure this out.  I had never heard of NPOV.

Good!  I plan on breaking a whole lot more rules of Wikipedia.
TC - 22 Jan 2008 21:53 GMT
> > "Mr. Natural-Health" <zx...@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Good! Then we won't have to read any of your crap in Wikipedia because
you will be rightly restricted from doing so.
Mr. Natural-Health - 24 Jan 2008 00:06 GMT
> On Jan 20, 9:12 pm, "Mr. Natural-Health"
>
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> Good! Then we won't have to read any of your crap in Wikipedia because
> you will be rightly restricted from doing so.

TC, the Whiner, is clueless as ususal.
Mr. Natural-Health - 21 Jan 2008 12:55 GMT
> Yes, I am free to folk Wikipedia, and here is the first version 2
> article of my dictionary of alternative medicine.

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/gnu-dictionary/

The amount of work involved in developing any type of dictionary of
this type is absolutely mind-boggling.  But, the dictionary itself;
consists of 5 or 6 different index webpages.  And, is being converted
to an improve vision, called version 2.

Currently, every link has been verified to be operational.  The Google
custom search function searches only the dictionary.  So, searching
for information with a custom Google search engine is also
operational.  Unlike most dictionaries, each entry links to one or
more encyclopedia articles or to a website that covers the respective
topic.  In a few cases, such as medical scientism, it links to an
article on my own website.

My immediate goal, is to provide a short comment or definition for
every entry in the dictionary.  Next, I would like to get a precise
count of the total number of hyperlinks. There should around several
thousand hyperlinks in the dictionary.

Perfecting custom written articles, such as medical scientism, is at
the very bottom of my list of priorities.

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/gnu-dictionary/medical-scientism.html

Medical scientism was simply one topic that I should have covered
better a long time ago.  My oversight has been corrected. :)

My vengeance on Wikipedia was achieved long ago by defining the topic
of alternative medicine globally.  My dictionary includes a lot of
information that the medical scientism bigots at Wikipedia would choke
on, such as:

- Includes coverage of the Wellness Movement as well as wellness
related medical terms.
- Dramatically expands the coverage of exercise-based therapies.
- Dramatically expands the coverage of wellness-based therapies.
- Dramatically increases the accessibility of alternative health
information.

Version 2 is being restricted to providing better coverage of the
current set of entries.
 
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