> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>> A Texan from Connecticut <ultimauw@hotmail.com> wrote
>>>> What the rich get:
>>>> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0204-01.htm
>>>> Health Care Firms Pamper Rich Patients
>>>> by Liz Kowalczyk
>>>> This is not the health care system most of us recognize: Internists who promise - absolutely guarantee - not to
>>>> keep you waiting for more than 15 minutes.
>>>> Specialists who return phone calls within three hours.
>>>> A nurse who will arrange your kids' summer camp.
>>>> Surgery followed by private car service to the Boston Park Plaza
>>>> Hotel or the Ritz-Carlton, where lavish room service and French
>>>> Provincial charm aid your recovery.
>>> The "rich" in what ever country they live in do and get the best care in the world, simple because they are rich.
>>> They can "afford" to go
>>> to whatever country they want to, in order to get the care they
>>> want. And the medical profession will ALWAYS cater to their needs,
>>> because they have the bucks to pay for whatever they want to get.
>>>> What the rest get:
>>>> http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=15535 US Health Care Ranked Last Of
>>>> 19 Industrialized Nations in Study
>>> What ultimately is the most important statistic is our life
>>> expectancy,
>> Not really. What matters much more is quality of life in the years past say 65 etc.
> The "quality" of life for the vast majority of those 65 and over, are great.
I meant that thats when most start to use medical services significantly
more and where you start to see significant differences in the result
they get in the different modern first world countrys as they end up with
diabetes, need heart bypasses and stents, and quite a few expensive
meds and eventually quite a few end up in nursing homes etc.
And in the case of the US, even before that age, significant numbers
end up being bankrupted by a serious medical condition when they
couldnt afford adequate medical insurance and can be financially
crippled by the cost of their medication etc.
> We have the "government" who gives us a regular check every money. We have the "government" take care of our medical
> needs. We pay very little in the way of taxes. "We" get all kinds of "beneies" from the government and the private
> sector. And "if" you managed to reach that ripe old age, your life expectancy is even longer.
That isnt however universal across the modern first world countrys.
Thats what was being discussed, the country by country differences.
That stuff I listed is much more important than the raw life expectancy numbers.
> The vast majority of seniors do not have to work. And if
> you think about it a little, let us say you stop working at age 65 (you actually could stop working at an even younger
> age) your life expectancy is 83. Think about that, you get to feed off the taxpayers of America for almost 20 years.
Sure, but the real difference in health care is with those who end
up with a serious medical condition before they qualify for that.
Like the loony who got dumped in the slums in his hospital gown.
You dont see much of that sort of thing outside the US.
>>> and in that area, there is very little difference between ANY of the more wealthy nations.
>> And most of the differences that are seen are due to demographics and genetics and lifestyle, not healthcare.