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Circumcision doesn't protect gay men against HIV

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Dr. Lippschitz - 11 Oct 2007 07:39 GMT
Real headline: Circumcision doesn't protect gay men against HIV

     News.com.au
     October 10, 2007

     Circumcision may lower syphilis risk
     Article from: AAP

     CIRCUMSCISION may offer gay men some protection from the sexually
transmitted infection syphilis, but researchers are not recommending men get
the snip.

     As new figures revealed a surge in syphilis rates, a study by Sydney
scientists has found that rates of the disease are higher among men who have
not had the procedure.

     Circumcision did not appear to offer any protection from other
sexually transmitted infections like HIV, gonorrhoea, chlamydia or genital
warts.

     Researchers at the University of New South Wales tracked 1427
homosexual men, two-thirds of whom had been circumcised, over three years
with regular testing for infections.

     They found no association between infection and circumcision status
for any disease except syphilis, they told the Australasian Sexual Health
Conference on the Gold Coast today.

     Professor Andrew Grulich from the National Centre in HIV Epidemiology
and Clinical Research said the reasons for this were still unclear but it
may be that the foreskin is particularly susceptible to this virus.

     "We also believe that quite a bit of syphilis, up to a third, is being
transmitted through oral sex in Australia at the moment," Prof Grulich said.

     "If the transmission of the organism is from the mouth then this is
something that is different from other infections."

     Research released at the same conference this week showed syphilis
numbers climbed by a third between 2004 and 2006, when 815 new infections
were reported. While numbers are still relatively small, epidemiologists say
the rapid rise constitutes an emerging epidemic.

     But despite the surge, the results were not strong enough to recommend
circumcision for those at risk, the researchers said. "Any intervention like
circumcision could only be partially effective so on the basis of this
research I wouldn't be out there advocating it," Prof Grulich said.

     "We wouldn't want people who are circumcised wrongly thinking that
they're safe from it."
bo_dacious@mactan.org - 12 Oct 2007 02:08 GMT
>Real headline: Circumcision doesn't protect gay men against HIV
>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
>      "We wouldn't want people who are circumcised wrongly thinking that
>they're safe from it."

Homosexuals are a clear and present danger to society in the United
States too:

Men who have sex with men (MSM) and AIDS in 2005

The following data are from 50 states and the District of Columbia.)

    * An estimated 19,248 MSM (17,230 MSM and 2,018 MSM who inject
drugs) received a diagnosis of AIDS, accounting for 65% of male adults
and adolescents and 47% of all people who received a diagnosis of AIDS
    * An estimated 7,293 MSM (5,929 MSM and 1,364 MSM who inject
drugs) with AIDS died, accounting for 60% of all men and 45% of all
people with AIDS who died.
   
    * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 517,992
MSM (452,111 MSM and 65,881 MSM who inject drugs) had received a
diagnosis of AIDS, accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents
who received a diagnosis of AIDS and 54% of all people who received a
diagnosis of AIDS.
   
    * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 300,669
MSM (260,749 MSM and 39,920 MSM who inject drugs) with AIDS had died,
accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents with AIDS who had
died and 57% of all people with AIDS who had died.
   
    * At the end of 2005, an estimated 217,323 MSM (191,362 MSM
and 25,961 MSM who inject drugs) were living with AIDS, representing
67% of male adults and adolescents living with AIDS and 52% of all
people living with AIDS.

Sexual Risk Factors

Sexual risk factors account for most HIV infections in MSM. These
factors include unprotected sex and sexually transmitted diseases
(STDs).

    * Having anal sex without a condom continues to be a
significant threat to the health of MSM. Unprotected anal sex
(barebacking) with casual partners is an increasing concern. Not all
the reasons for an apparent increase in unprotected anal intercourse
are known, but research points to the following factors: optimism
about improved HIV treatment, substance use, complex sexual decision
making, seeking sex partners on the Internet, and failure to practice
safer sex. Some of these men may be serosorting, or only having sex
(or unprotected sex) with a partner whose HIV serostatus, they
believe, is the same as their own. Although serosorting between MSM
who have tested HIV-positive is likely to prevent new HIV transmission
to persons who are not infected, the effectiveness of serosorting
between men who have tested HIV-negative has not been established.
Serosorting with condom use may further reduce the risk of HIV
transmission. However, for men with casual partners, serosorting alone
is likely to be less effective than always using condoms because some
men do not know or disclose their HIV serostatus.
   
    * STDs, which increase the risk for HIV infection, remain an
important health issue for MSM. According to the Gonococcal Isolate
Surveillance Project, the proportion of gonorrhea-positive test
results among MSM increased from 4% in 1988 to 20.2% in 2004. Rates of
syphilis among MSM have increased in some urban areas, including
Chicago, New York, San Francisco, and Seattle. In the 9 US cities
participating in the MSM Prevalence Monitoring Project, the rates of
STDs and HIV positivity varied by race and ethnicity but tended to be
highest among black and Hispanic MSM. In addition to increasing
susceptibility to HIV, STDs are markers for high-risk sexual
practices, through which HIV infection can be transmitted.

Unknown HIV Serostatus

Approximately 25% of people in the United States who are infected with
HIV do not know they are infected.

    * Through its National HIV Behavioral Surveillance system, CDC
found that 25% of the MSM surveyed in 5 large US cities were infected
with HIV and 48% of those infected were unaware of their infections.
* In a recent CDC study of young MSM, 77% of those who tested
HIV-positive mistakenly believed that they were not infected. Young
black MSM in this study were more likely to be unaware of their
infection--approximately 9 of 10 young black MSM compared with 6 of 10
young white MSM. Of the men who tested positive, most (74%) had
previously tested negative for HIV infection, and 59% believed that
they were at low or very low risk.

Ref: www.cdc.gov <HIV, AIDS, STD, MSM, GISP>
WindingHighway - 12 Oct 2007 02:58 GMT
On Oct 11, 9:08?pm, bo_daci...@mactan.org wrote:

> Homosexuals are a clear and present danger to society in the United
> States too:

Hmmm... and according to the National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious Diseases:

" Worldwide, more than 90 percent of all adolescent and adult HIV
infections have resulted from heterosexual intercourse."
http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/womenhiv.htm

So by your reasoning, heterosexuals are a "clear and present danger to
society" around the world.

What are you going to do about THAT?
Avenger - 12 Oct 2007 03:48 GMT
> On Oct 11, 9:08?pm, bo_daci...@mactan.org wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> infections have resulted from heterosexual intercourse."
> http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/womenhiv.htm

You're talking about a few thousand females worldwide who caught AIDS by
being f.cked up the arse by some bi sexual homo or a man who contracted the
disease from a needle or transfusion. Show me ONE case where a male got AIDS
from a female by f.cking her.

> So by your reasoning, heterosexuals are a "clear and present danger to
> society" around the world.
>
> What are you going to do about THAT?
Bibon - 13 Oct 2007 06:29 GMT
>On Oct 11, 9:08?pm, bo_daci...@mactan.org wrote:
>
>> Homosexuals are a clear and present danger to society in the United
>> States too:

Men who have sex with men (MSM) and AIDS in 2005

The following data are from 50 states and the District of Columbia.)

    * An estimated 19,248 MSM (17,230 MSM and 2,018 MSM who inject
drugs) received a diagnosis of AIDS, accounting for 65% of male adults
and adolescents and 47% of all people who received a diagnosis of AIDS
    * An estimated 7,293 MSM (5,929 MSM and 1,364 MSM who inject
drugs) with AIDS died, accounting for 60% of all men and 45% of all
people with AIDS who died.
   
    * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 517,992
MSM (452,111 MSM and 65,881 MSM who inject drugs) had received a
diagnosis of AIDS, accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents
who received a diagnosis of AIDS and 54% of all people who received a
diagnosis of AIDS.
   
    * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 300,669
MSM (260,749 MSM and 39,920 MSM who inject drugs) with AIDS had died,
accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents with AIDS who had
died and 57% of all people with AIDS who had died.
   
    * At the end of 2005, an estimated 217,323 MSM (191,362 MSM
and 25,961 MSM who inject drugs) were living with AIDS, representing
67% of male adults and adolescents living with AIDS and 52% of all
people living with AIDS.

Sexual Risk Factors

Sexual risk factors account for most HIV infections in MSM. These
factors include unprotected sex and sexually transmitted diseases
(STDs).

    * Having anal sex without a condom continues to be a
significant threat to the health of MSM. Unprotected anal sex
(barebacking) with casual partners is an increasing concern. Not all
the reasons for an apparent increase in unprotected anal intercourse
are known, but research points to the following factors: optimism
about improved HIV treatment, substance use, complex sexual decision
making, seeking sex partners on the Internet, and failure to practice
safer sex. Some of these men may be serosorting, or only having sex
(or unprotected sex) with a partner whose HIV serostatus, they
believe, is the same as their own. Although serosorting between MSM
who have tested HIV-positive is likely to prevent new HIV transmission
to persons who are not infected, the effectiveness of serosorting
between men who have tested HIV-negative has not been established.
Serosorting with condom use may further reduce the risk of HIV
transmission. However, for men with casual partners, serosorting alone
is likely to be less effective than always using condoms because some
men do not know or disclose their HIV serostatus.
   
    * STDs, which increase the risk for HIV infection, remain an
important health issue for MSM. According to the Gonococcal Isolate
Surveillance Project, the proportion of gonorrhea-positive test
results among MSM increased from 4% in 1988 to 20.2% in 2004. Rates of
syphilis among MSM have increased in some urban areas, including
Chicago, New York, San Francisco, and Seattle. In the 9 US cities
participating in the MSM Prevalence Monitoring Project, the rates of
STDs and HIV positivity varied by race and ethnicity but tended to be
highest among black and Hispanic MSM. In addition to increasing
susceptibility to HIV, STDs are markers for high-risk sexual
practices, through which HIV infection can be transmitted.

Unknown HIV Serostatus

Approximately 25% of people in the United States who are infected with
HIV do not know they are infected.

    * Through its National HIV Behavioral Surveillance system, CDC
found that 25% of the MSM surveyed in 5 large US cities were infected
with HIV and 48% of those infected were unaware of their infections.
* In a recent CDC study of young MSM, 77% of those who tested
HIV-positive mistakenly believed that they were not infected. Young
black MSM in this study were more likely to be unaware of their
infection--approximately 9 of 10 young black MSM compared with 6 of 10
young white MSM. Of the men who tested positive, most (74%) had
previously tested negative for HIV infection, and 59% believed that
they were at low or very low risk.

Ref: www.cdc.gov <HIV, AIDS, STD, MSM, GISP>

>Hmmm... and according to the National Institute of Allergy and
>Infectious Diseases:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>So by your reasoning, heterosexuals are a "clear and present danger to
>society" around the world.

No, your "WORLD PROBLEM" for heterosexuals is limited to Africa. The
problem in the US is with promiscuous homosexual males as I clearly
pointed out in my original post (and have re-posted here in since you
so cowardly deleted it). Your fallacy of "heterosexual world problem"
is just some more homo-bull-sh.t.

>What are you going to do about THAT?

What are Africans going to do about that. The US sent them 15 BILLION
DOLLARS for a kick start. If you 're so concerned about AIDS in other
countries maybe you should head to Africa...soon.
flaviaR@verizon.net - 12 Oct 2007 11:14 GMT
> Homosexuals are a clear and present danger to society in the United
> States too:

Yes, we know exactly what really frightens you homophobes.

http://brucemulkey.com/2006/05/

Susan
Avenger - 12 Oct 2007 11:54 GMT
>> Homosexuals are a clear and present danger to society in the United
>> States too:
>
> Yes, we know exactly what really frightens you homophobes.

Yeah, judophiles

> http://brucemulkey.com/2006/05/
>
> Susan
Bibon - 13 Oct 2007 06:32 GMT
>> Homosexuals are a clear and present danger to society in the United
>> States too:
>
>Yes, we know exactly what really frightens you homophobes.

Not nearly as much as does all the states passing laws against
homosexual marriage frightens homosexuals.

>Susan
 
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