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Parent told to "dose your kid"//The Iron-Fist of the Medical-Industrial-Complex

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Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 05 Oct 2007 04:56 GMT
Parent told to "dose your kid"//The Iron-Fist of the Medical-
Industrial-Complex

I Can't Believe This//Another Open Letter from a Friend!

: bnj4...@ix.netcom.com(Janeen & Brandon Heath) wrote:
: >Excuse me while I vent a moment...

: >Just got off the phone with my son's teacher.  She wanted to know
if he
: >took his medicine this am because he would not concentrate on his
work
: >this morning.  Seems they are working on pratice for the TAAS test
and
: >he isn't interested.  This is not for a grade mind you.  But
according
: >to the teacher it is VERY important because the school and all the
: >teachers are ranked by this test.

: >In other words, please dose up your kid so me and the school make
more
: >money next year.

: >GRRRRRRR!

: >Janeen

>Obviously there is something terribly wrong with this type of behavior.
>How it manifests itself to the greater community should be a concern
>to every caring person.  We have the ability to do much better,
>and in fact, we have to do better than this.  We must simple put an stop
>to drugging our innocent young children because they act like they
>are suppose to, like children!
>At this time I really need to address what the UNITED NATIONS recently
>has published  -- and here it is:
>UN- The United Nation's International Narcotics Council Board has
>warned that US doctors are over prescribing Ritalin (methylphenidate)
>to treat hyperactive children.  The US consumes 90 percent of the
>world's Ritalin supply.  In 1995, US doctors prescribed 350 million
>doses of the drug to as many as 5 percent of US school kids
>(up 50 percent over the previous year).  The UN has asked the US
>to investigate the pro-Ritalin activities of an unnamed
>"parents association" financially backed by Ciba, Ritalin's manufacturer.
>It is not a pretty picutre and everyone need's to take control over
>this fine mess.  Even this simple post will be censored, and bullied.
>Luckily a few concerned citizens have refused to bow down to the
>twisted Pro-Medication Lobby that pushes DRUGS to our most innocent
>and trustworthy members of our family; our children.  This time we
>have to say, "No more.  For God's sake."

Art Wholeflaffer

>Here is a response from a very concerned citizen that I would like
>to share with everyone:

Hello! Although I mean no disrespect, I must add my opinion!
I had the same bullshit, happen to me because of my childhood
hyperactivity! I was put on Ritalin when I was only 7 years old,
subsequently
it did a lot of harm. It made me so violent, that 5 people in the
household
could not handle me at all the majority of the time.  Research later
showed
that Ritalin can cause detrimental anger problems as well as lead to
emotion havoc, even to the point of suicidal tendencies.

They don't tell people all about Ritalin because  the drug makers,
profit off this drug. Just because the drug is out there and all this
from
from my personal experience. Be careful what a shrink or a school
recommends, because half the time it isn't always the explanation
that they say it is.  In fact, it may be totally different and you
would
never even suspect why as a parent.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I totally understand your frustration with the "Medical-Industrial-
Complex"
that treats patients as second-class citizens, and views children as
nothing
but dollar signs to exploit.

Not only is this behavior totally unethical, but the effect on young
people's brains is
sickening as well as dishearting.  We must all put a stop to the
"Medical Gulag" that is turning an entire generation into a pack of
what
one concerned Mother recently wrote, "Mindless Zombies."

Thank you for your honesty and candor in discussing these
vital and meaningful topics.  Your statements have not gone unnoticed.

Art Wholeflaffer
Mark Probert - 06 Oct 2007 15:19 GMT
fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
David Wright - 06 Oct 2007 18:35 GMT
>fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.

Aw, Mark.  As if the classics ever go out of style.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "[Republicans] talk about Reagan the way gay guys talk about
     Barbra Streisand."               -- Bill Maher
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 06 Oct 2007 19:27 GMT
> >fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
>
> Aw, Mark.  As if the classics ever go out of style.

Look what the dawg dragged in: the confab of Ann-Proby and Wright,
the ADD hit-men.  Lucky for the rest of the 99.9% of America,
we can stand up to the medical-industrial-complex and just
say NO because we KNOW better.

We are winning the war against the drugging of
America's youth, but there are battles yet to
be fought.  WE are soldiers in the War
OF Truth, and the enemy never stops thinking
about how to harm us, as the President once said!

Let us join together and stop the drugging of America
and tell the ADD hit-men to move over because
the time is NOW to stop forcing hard-core drugs
down innocent childrens throats!!

At EASE!

Sir Arti?
WWWSC #2 - 06 Oct 2007 20:10 GMT
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:

>We are winning the war against the drugging of
>America's youth, but there are battles yet to
>be fought.  

As I've challenged you many, many times in the past, repost the
message where I said anything about the forced drugging of children.
Hurry along now, we're all waiting with bated breathe.....

>WE are soldiers in the War
>OF Truth, and the enemy never stops thinking
>about how to harm us, as the President once said!

You are full of sh.t and everyone on the internet knows it!
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Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 07 Oct 2007 08:02 GMT
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You are full of sh.t and everyone on the internet knows it!

Ann, your pro forced-drugging side is losing the
War for the hearts and minds of America, thus you
are forced into writing things like that.

If you would finally admit that everything that I ever posted
was 100% correct and that your Cult is totally
being manipulated by the Proby-Wright faction,
we would welcome you to our pro-democracy side!

What parent in good faith would turn their
child into a hard-core drug-addict and
negatively alters their child's brain for life?
We are turning that number into zero due to
efforts such as ours.

Sir Arti?
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 07 Oct 2007 08:03 GMT
> "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> You are full of sh.t and everyone on the internet knows it!

Ann, your pro forced-drugging side is losing the
War for the hearts and minds of America, thus you
are forced into writing things like that.

If you would finally admit that everything that I ever posted
was 100% correct and that your Cult is totally
being manipulated by the Proby-Wright faction,
we would welcome you to our pro-democracy side!

What parent in good faith would turn their
child into a hard-core drug-addict and
negatively alters their child's brain for life?
We are turning that number into zero due to
efforts such as ours.

Sir Arti?
David Wright - 08 Oct 2007 02:45 GMT
>> >fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>we can stand up to the medical-industrial-complex and just
>say NO because we KNOW better.

"We" only refers to your multiple personalities.  I didn't ask you to
come oozing onto sci.med, after all.  I don't read a.s.a-d.

>We are winning the war against the drugging of
>America's youth, but there are battles yet to
>be fought.  WE are soldiers in the War
>OF Truth, and the enemy never stops thinking
>about how to harm us, as the President once said!

You are a lying little scumbag who doesn't even have the guts to use
his own name.  To compare yourself to a soldier is incredibly
insulting to the real soldiers.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "[Republicans] talk about Reagan the way gay guys talk about
     Barbra Streisand."               -- Bill Maher
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 08 Oct 2007 05:51 GMT
> >> >fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
> >>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> his own name.  To compare yourself to a soldier is incredibly
> insulting to the real soldiers.

We are on the front-lines fighting against the State-sponsored drug-
pushers better known as Big Pharma, and WE are winning.  That
obviously scares the hell out of the Iron-Fist of the medical-
industrial complex.  As the General would say, "much more needs to be
done!"  ---And it will get done as in get r' done!!!

Wright, I hear there are amazing things being done with brain
transplants, perhaps you should consider getting one.

Sir Arti?
David Wright - 12 Oct 2007 03:40 GMT
>> >> >fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
>> >>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>industrial complex.  As the General would say, "much more needs to be
>done!"  ---And it will get done as in get r' done!!!

YOU are not on the front lines of anything.  You're a fraud whose only
activity is to spew bullshit on newsgroups.  You have done nothing
else.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Saddam Hussein was a bad man, connected with some incredibly dangerous
     people:  Cheney, Rumsfeld, George Galloway."  -- Marcus Brigstocke
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 13 Oct 2007 18:22 GMT
> >> >> >fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> activity is to spew bullshit on newsgroups.  You have done nothing
> else.

Wright, you have reached BELOW the bottom of the barrel, if that is
even possible any more.  I am not here to exchange insults tit-for-
tat, that is your Cults forte, our efforts here is to SAVE LIVES and
prevent innocent children from being turned into hard-core drug-
addicts.  This is an honorable cause that we have taken up.  For our
many years of efforts I know that our Pro-Democracy side is
succeeding!  So please refrain yourself from that kind of potty-mouth
language, that is the bread and butter of the Proby-Porno-TPFKA Ann
faction.  It should be beneath you.  Apparently not!

SIR ArthuR
David Wright - 15 Oct 2007 01:42 GMT
>> >> >> >fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
>> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>prevent innocent children from being turned into hard-core drug-
>addicts.

Gee, and here I thought your effort here was to impersonate a doctor,
hound people, and claim expertise that you do not, in fact, have.
Guess I burst your bubble.  How tragic.

Ritalin is not addictive when taken as prescribed, though of course it
can be abused.  However, children whose ADD is not recognized and
treated in some way are *more* likely to become drug addicts later
on.  Perhaps your fearmongering efforts can take credit for some of
those.  Do try to feel proud of yourself.  It's not as though you have
anything else going for you.  The finest thing you could possibly do
for the nation's ADD kids is stop posting immediately.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Saddam Hussein was a bad man, connected with some incredibly dangerous
     people:  Cheney, Rumsfeld, George Galloway."  -- Marcus Brigstocke
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 15 Oct 2007 15:13 GMT
> >> >> >> >fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
> >> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> anything else going for you.  The finest thing you could possibly do
> for the nation's ADD kids is stop posting immediately.

Wrght,  Thank you for expressing your honest opinion, but it is flat-
out WRONG!!  Ritalin has been demonstrably proven to my medical
research team that it can lead to harder drugs which can lead to brain-
damage and/or death.  Those are the facts which cannot and should not
be disputed, EVER!!

This phony SPIN-drome has led to more suffering that World War 1 and
World War 2 combined!  It MUST be stopped and it WILL be stopped.
More and more parents are finally waking up and just saying NO to the
gulag-style force-feeding of addicitve drugs, as well it should be.

This is NOT fear-mongering but the cold facts which are backed up by
years of honest non-Big Pharma funded analysis and research.

The IRON-FIST of BIG PHARMA is strong and they will not give up on
hooking young children onto drugs, but our numbers are growing also
and we can spread the word far and near about  the truth.  We must
prevail if America shall stand.  We are doing the Lords work against
the Devil, There is truly no higher calling.

Amen and God Bless each and every one of you, except those who are the
evil-doers!

Sir ARthu?
David Wright - 17 Oct 2007 04:47 GMT
>> >> >> >> >fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
>> >> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>damage and/or death.  Those are the facts which cannot and should not
>be disputed, EVER!!

Ah, fArtie, the amount of deception you can pack into one paragraph
must be approaching the theoretical limit.  You don't *have* a
research team (or, for that matter, an institute, which you have also
falsely claimed to have).  Ritalin can lead to other drugs if you
abuse it, which I specifically ruled out.

>This phony SPIN-drome has led to more suffering that World War 1 and
>World War 2 combined!  It MUST be stopped and it WILL be stopped.
>More and more parents are finally waking up and just saying NO to the
>gulag-style force-feeding of addicitve drugs, as well it should be.

Clearly, your ignorance of history is on a par with your ignorance of
all other subjects.

>This is NOT fear-mongering but the cold facts which are backed up by
>years of honest non-Big Pharma funded analysis and research.

No, it's fear-mongering based on half truths and a bunch of stuff you
made up out of whole cloth.

>Amen and God Bless each and every one of you, except those who are the
>evil-doers!

Interesting, watching you call the wrath of God down on your own
head.  It'd be fun to watch.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Saddam Hussein was a bad man, connected with some incredibly dangerous
     people:  Cheney, Rumsfeld, George Galloway."  -- Marcus Brigstocke
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 17 Oct 2007 14:35 GMT
> >> >> >> >> >fArtie has run out of things to post. This crap comes from 1997.
> >> >> >> >>
[quoted text clipped - 77 lines]
> Interesting, watching you call the wrath of God down on your own
> head.  It'd be fun to watch.

Wright, as you well know, I usually don't respond to your clap-trap,
for the simple reason is that the junk you post is not worthy of a
response!  Your cult has being exposed and the pill-pushers are losing
ground!  Parents have been empowered all over the USA to just say NO,
and for that we are all very very grateful!

Our research team stands by the data, which cannot be disputed, sorry
Charlie!

Now go on your way and leave this newsgroup to those who show real
compassion and back it up with the detailed facts.

Sir Arti?
WWWSC #2 - 17 Oct 2007 21:27 GMT
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science@zzz.com> expounded:

>Wright, as you well know, I usually don't respond to your clap-trap

Oh, bullshit, you answer every-single-time.
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Proud member WWWSC #2
Formerly known as Ann

David Wright - 18 Oct 2007 04:06 GMT
>>fArtie wrote:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>for the simple reason is that the junk you post is not worthy of a
>response!

You respond to everything I write about you.

>Your cult has being exposed and the pill-pushers are losing
>ground!  Parents have been empowered all over the USA to just say NO,
>and for that we are all very very grateful!
>
>Our research team stands by the data, which cannot be disputed, sorry
>Charlie!

You have no research team, and you have no data.

>Now go on your way and leave this newsgroup to those who show real
>compassion and back it up with the detailed facts.

If that were the requirement, you wouldn't be on the newsgroup.

 -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "Saddam Hussein was a bad man, connected with some incredibly dangerous
     people:  Cheney, Rumsfeld, George Galloway."  -- Marcus Brigstocke
Mark Probert - 18 Oct 2007 12:50 GMT
> Wright, as you well know, I usually don't respond to your clap-trap,
> for the simple reason is that the junk you post is not worthy of a
> response!  

BwHAHAHAHAAHA

You have yet to miss a post of David's.
Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. - 18 Oct 2007 14:28 GMT
> > Wright, as you well know, I usually don't respond to your clap-trap,
> > for the simple reason is that the junk you post is not worthy of a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> You have yet to miss a post of David's.

Let's not mix metaphors!  Your goofy cult has lost much of its
influence, and the world is better for that.  We have stood up to the
pro forced-med lobby and have made major inroads, and we will continue
to do that.

More and more parents have just said NO, to an obviously "rush to
judgement" about hooking their young (sometimes as young as 4 years-
old) on very powerful medication.

You and Wrights smokescreens are easy to see through.

> BwHAHAHAHAAHA

As usual,  you do not make sense.  More proof that your cult has lost
its way.  I did predict that would happen though.

Sir Arti?
Mark Probert - 19 Oct 2007 04:53 GMT
>>> Wright, as you well know, I usually don't respond to your clap-trap,
>>> for the simple reason is that the junk you post is not worthy of a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Let's not mix metaphors!  

I know that even simple ones confuse you.

Your goofy cult has lost much of its
> influence, and the world is better for that.  We have stood up to the
> pro forced-med lobby and have made major inroads, and we will continue
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Sir Artiø

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