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Medical Forum / General / General / October 2007Iron and Chinese Diabetes
Diabetes Care. 2007 Oct 1; [Epub ahead of print] Body Iron Stores and Dietary Iron Intake in Relation to Diabetes in Adults in North China. Luan DC, Li H, Li SJ, Zhao Z, Li X, Liu ZM. (Liaoning Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention, Shenyang, China). OBJECTIVE - To evaluate the association between body iron stores, dietary iron intake and the risk of diabetes in North China. RESEARCH DESIGN AND METHODS - The data of a cross-sectional household survey in 2002 in Liaoning Province in North China was used. Final sample contained 2997 subjects aged 18 years old above in our study. Fasting plasma glucose and serum ferritin were measured. Dietary information was collected by three-day food records. RESULTS - Serum ferritin was associated with elevated risk of diabetes even adjusted for age, gender, nondietary factors and dietary factors. No association among total iron intake, nonheme iron intake and diabetes risk was found. However, higher heme iron intake was significantly associated with elevated risk of diabetes after adjusting for known factors. CONCLUSIONS - In Chinese the association among higher serum ferritin level, higher heme iron intake and elevated risk of diabetes were also found. PMID: 17909092 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk "No association among total iron intake, nonheme iron intake and diabetes risk was found. However, higher heme iron intake was significantly associated with elevated risk of diabetes after adjusting for known factors." Yawn, another diabetes study showing what others have shown. When the more detailed question is asked if all meat sources are a risk the answer is no. Among meat sources red meat and processed high fat deli type meat sources have a risk. Other meat sources do not. Because all meat sources do not the question is what about red and deli type sources is different. The obvious one and one which is shown to be a risk factor is saturated fats. The meat of choice for chinese is pork, the more fatty the better. In recent times as incomes rose and more pork was eaten along with less exercise etc. the level of diabetes has risen. Other studies like this one also show that total iron is not a risk factor. That fact alone refutes the iron causes all disease because people eat meat notion. The notion says that high iron is the cause of disease, but this and other studies say total iron makes no difference. >> On Oct 3, 11:43 am, ferr...@paris.com wrote: if all meat sources are a risk the answer is no << No .. ? " heme iron intake was significantly associated with risk of diabetes " No .. it SAYS meat IS associated .. "higher heme iron intake and elevated risk of diabetes were found. " Heme iron IS .. meat .. Meat IS associated .. IE: "elevated risk of diabetes" .. You disagree that it says .. ? "higher heme iron intake and elevated risk of diabetes were found" ... ? 'They' .. DO say .. "Meat intake and elevated risk of diabetes were found." You see I .. **copied** what they .. said .. How can you NOT .. see / understand that it DOES say .. ""higher heme iron intake and elevated risk of diabetes were found".. ? Explain that .. I am having a very hard time understanding HOW .. you .. don't understand some of the more simple of this .. stuff .. Maybe if you explain it .. really .. well .. I'll be able to understand your .. mind .. But I .. fkg .. doubt .. it .. Heh .. heh .. Now hit the road you are wasting my .. time .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk "No association among total iron intake, nonheme iron intake and diabetes risk was found. However, higher heme iron intake was significantly associated with elevated risk of diabetes after adjusting for known factors." Yawn, another diabetes study showing what others have shown. When the more detailed question is asked if all meat sources are a risk the answer is no. Among meat sources red meat and processed high fat deli type meat sources have a risk. Other meat sources do not. Because all meat sources do not the question is what about red and deli type sources is different. The obvious one and one which is shown to be a risk factor is saturated fats. The meat of choice for chinese is pork, the more fatty the better. In recent times as incomes rose and more pork was eaten along with less exercise etc. the level of diabetes has risen. Other studies like this one also show that total iron is not a risk factor. That fact alone refutes the iron causes all disease because people eat meat notion. The notion says that high iron is the cause of disease, but this and other studies say total iron makes no difference. Jesus ate a mediterranean diet. >> On Oct 3, 5:17 pm, ferr...@paris.com wrote: << I guess that would be .. "no I am unable to explain my .. fkd .. up .. mind .. to you" .. Is that about it .. ? Let me try to .. "Tom this is how I see it .. what they said and what you thought you heard are not what they meant . WHEN they say 'higher heme iron intake was significantly associated with elevated risk of diabetes' .. it ACTUALLY means .. "heme iron / meat .. was NOT significantly associated with elevated risk of diabetes" .. You SEE the subtle difference there .. Tom .. ? They meant to say .. NOT .. associated .. NOT .. significantly associated .. THAT is what they MEANT .. to .. say .. " Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk "No association among total iron intake, nonheme iron intake and diabetes risk was found. However, higher heme iron intake was significantly associated with elevated risk of diabetes after adjusting for known factors." Yawn, another diabetes study showing what others have shown. When the more detailed question is asked if all meat sources are a risk the answer is no. Among meat sources red meat and processed high fat deli type meat sources have a risk. Other meat sources do not. Because all meat sources do not the question is what about red and deli type sources is different. The obvious one and one which is shown to be a risk factor is saturated fats. The meat of choice for chinese is pork, the more fatty the better. In recent times as incomes rose and more pork was eaten along with less exercise etc. the level of diabetes has risen. Other studies like this one also show that total iron is not a risk factor. That fact alone refutes the iron causes all disease because people eat meat notion. The notion says that high iron is the cause of disease, but this and other studies say total iron makes no difference. Jesus ate a mediterranean diet. >>On Oct 3, 6:38 pm, ferr...@paris.com wrote: "no I am unable to explain my .. fkd .. up .. mind .. to you" .. << Why don't you just step UP and explain .. exactly .. WHO you .. are .. Describe .. yourself .. Give a Coles notes / synopsis .. of .. yourself .. THAT shouldn't be too hard .. Who would know you better than .. you .. I might have found your .. inherent .. ability .. Biography .. Oh .. sht . that won't work .. You have no .. retention .. and you .. didn't write .. anything .. down .. Heh .. heh .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > "No association among total iron intake, nonheme iron intake and > diabetes risk was found. However, higher heme iron intake was [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Jesus ate a mediterranean diet. |
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