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Why Are Hospitals So Dirty?

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DrDre_2007_07@yahoo.com - 18 Jul 2007 00:45 GMT
Why all the nosocomial infections?
Dr. Dre - 19 Jul 2007 22:22 GMT
On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:08 -0700, DrDre_2007_07 wrote:

> Why all the nosocomial infections?

Sent to me in email:

"Uh, because sick people go to hospitals, not healthy people, and when
those sick people are immunocompromised, and they have weak immune
systems that can't fight off infections, they get more nosocomial
infections.  That is why there are so many nosocomial infections."

Can you cite any data showing that immunocompetent patients are
immune from nosocomial infections?

Granted this is only anecdotal, but I know at least one immunocompetent
patient who caught super-staff at one of those 'renowned' NYC hospitals.

And I know a guy who quit working in a prestigious hospital, because he
was disgusted by the management's negligence towards keeping the
hospital clean.

It's hardly open to debate. Any reader can walk into any hospital, and see
that most hospitals are filthy.

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Howard McCollister - 20 Jul 2007 17:26 GMT
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:08 -0700, DrDre_2007_07 wrote:

> And I know a guy who quit working in a prestigious hospital, because he
> was disgusted by the management's negligence towards keeping the
> hospital clean.

Well! I guess that locks up that argument, huh?

HMc
TheGuffster - 20 Jul 2007 17:33 GMT
> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:08 -0700, DrDre_2007_07 wrote:
> > Why all the nosocomial infections?
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> Granted this is only anecdotal, but I know at least one immunocompetent
> patient who caught super-staff at one of those 'renowned' NYC hospitals.

Super staff eh?

> And I know a guy who quit working in a prestigious hospital, because he
> was disgusted by the management's negligence towards keeping the
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> --http://www.domain357.info/DrDre.html

Well then maybe you should apply to be one of the "Super staff" at one
of those philthy hospitles!
Dr. Dre - 20 Jul 2007 21:41 GMT
>> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:08 -0700, DrDre_2007_07 wrote:
>> > Why all the nosocomial infections?
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> Well then maybe you should apply to be one of the "Super staff" at one
> of those philthy hospitles!

here's a gold-star and a cookie for your superior spelling skillz,
sycophant

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TheGuffster - 20 Jul 2007 22:09 GMT
> >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:08 -0700, DrDre_2007_07 wrote:
> >> > Why all the nosocomial infections?
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I get a gold star from an anti-government, anti-medicine,  illiterate
nut case that claims to have sex with porn stars.....
Wow, what an honor.....
Dr. Dre - 20 Jul 2007 22:43 GMT
>> >> On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:08 -0700, DrDre_2007_07 wrote:
>> >> > Why all the nosocomial infections?
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> and treachery of the Medical Establishment, and I hate the U.S.
> Constitution; but I am very proud of my spelling.

whatever

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David Wright - 20 Jul 2007 19:09 GMT
>On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:08 -0700, DrDre_2007_07 wrote:
>
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>It's hardly open to debate. Any reader can walk into any hospital, and see
>that most hospitals are filthy.

The ones I've seen lately are not.  But the incidence of nosocomial
infections can certainly be cut way down.  It simply requires the
staff to be a lot more vigilant about hand-washing.  As for the
"staff" (hee hee hee) infections, that requires screening patients
when they come in; a small percentage are going to be infected.
Hospitals resist doing the screening because of the cost, but there
are now studies coming in that show it's a lot more cost-effective to
do it than not (because it's so expensive to treat the MSRA cases).

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Dr. Dre - 20 Jul 2007 21:46 GMT
>>On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:08 -0700, DrDre_2007_07 wrote:
>>
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> down.  It simply requires the staff to be a lot more vigilant about
> hand-washing.

That's been tried already, and it hasn't worked.

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David Wright - 20 Jul 2007 21:56 GMT
>>>On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:45:08 -0700, DrDre_2007_07 wrote:
>>>
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>
>That's been tried already, and it hasn't worked.

On the contrary, it has worked -- but it's hard to keep the staff
doing it.

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