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Medical Forum / General / General / June 2007#23 news of thimerosal and beta amyloid Re: new book: Metal Causation coupled with Weak-Protein-Point ^Theory of Medicine (Alzheimers, Autism, Parkinsons, Prion, Schizophrenia)
Now I am beginning to realize that I should have a last chapter in all of these books as a "news follow-up chapter". This is something the old way of publishing books could never do where the latest news can be included in the book itself. On the late night news of June 11, 2007 was two pieces of information that directly applies to the theory of this book. That a metal such as mercury can cause these 5 diseases. In the news was word that about 5,000 cases of autism are seeking litigation over thimerosal (mercury preservative) vaccine. What appears to be the case for the autistic families is the sudden appearance of autism in their child shortly after the vaccine was administered. So that what appears as the logic of their case is that their child quickly displayed autistic symptoms shortly after administered the vaccine. Whether the defence in the thimerosal cases can show that autistic children displayed autism before their thimerosal injection remains to be seen. But it would certainly be a strong case if these parents of autistic children provide documentary evidence that their child displayed autism shortly after the thimerosal injection. And the other news was that there are 3 new alleged treatments for Alzheimers in which one is alleged a cure for the disease. And is based on the idea that beta amyloid is the cause of the disease. The idea that beta amyloid causes Alzheimers in the analogy that hepatitis is caused by a virus. Before, it was thought beta amyloid was a symptom of the disease but these drugs allege that beta amyloid actually causes the disease. What I want to focus on in that beta amyloid report is the similarity between Prion disease and Alzheimers in that the prion protein is the cause of Prion disease and now this beta amyloid is implicated as the cause of the Alzheimer disease. So this news further confirms and supports the theory of this book. That these 5 diseases are all related and all have a causation mechanism that leads back to some metal poison such as mercury or cesium or rubidium whether alone or metals in combinations. And it is not the Prion protein or beta amyloid that goes around changing other proteins to become a rogue protein but rather what has happened is that the mercurry or metal poisons have altered the synthesis of proteins in the brain so that some site in the brain spews out more unwanted rogue proteins. In the 1990s the science medical community accepted this really silly and stupid theory that prion proteins go around and change other proteins to be a like-copy of themselves. And so what Alzheimers and beta amyloid now tell us is that some site of protein synthesis has gone amok and spewing out more unwanted beta amyloid. But if the prion model were correct then beta amyloid would be of that model also. It is not. Beta amyloid does not run around in the brain converting other proteins to be more beta amyloid. It is the metals such as mercury that causes some site in the brain to spew more beta amyloid and thus the disease. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies (snipped) > Whether the defence in the thimerosal cases can show that autistic > children displayed autism before their [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > children provide documentary evidence that > their child displayed autism shortly after the thimerosal injection. I am thinking there is a good science study of these 5,000 litigants of thimerosal. To find out when each of the 5,000 children were administered thimerosal. Next, to find out as accurately as possible when the parents first realized their child was autistic. Finally, to measure to what degree each of those children is stricken with autism, for I realize autism varies in the degree of severity. What I am saying is that these 5,000 offer up more clues of understanding this disease of autism. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies I have talked alot about mercury in this book with the modern day common prevalence of mercury in the environment especially the air we breathe and coal fired electric power stations. And the fact that mercury in very tiny doses is a huge damage especially to babies and infants. I also talked about cesium and rubidium in the environment especially with Prion diseases. I talked about silver in the environment especially with Schizophrenia. I mentioned aluminum and manganese and copper. What I did not mention was fluorine in excess. When was fluorine recognized to prevent tooth decay? A little bit of fluorine in the water is okay but we can easily overdose on fluorine if it is in the water and where officials who add the fluorine could easily make mistakes. But also when tooth products add flourine to the "dental floss" or toothbrush so that combinations of water, tooth brushing and we easily get overdoses of fluorine. When was Schizophrenia recognized to be on the rise as a disease? Was it when fluorine was added to the water? When was Alzheimers seen rising? Was it when fluorine was routine treatment? When was Parkinson on the rise? Was it around the time that fluorine was added to the water supply? This is why it is important to keep records of date and time of these diseases because something like routine fluorine additive just maybe the cause of a major disease such as Alzheimers. We do not know what happens when you have mercury with fluorine present in the brain in excess doses. MY GUESS: I am guessing that excess fluorine in the human body is easily recognized by this symptom. That the skin in the mouth sheds more rapidly due to excess fluorine to the body. I know the skin that lines the mouth sheds periodically, but I think that with excess fluorine in the body, that the white skin of the mouth sheds too much. But I would need a medical study to confirm this speculation. One thing is certain, that excess fluorine acts as a poison. The old adage that too much of anything begins to act as a poison is true. All 5 of these diseases involve proteins. Mercury affects protein synthesis and protein sequencing. Fluorine would do harm to proteins. It is thought that well-water has something to do with the large numbers of Parkinson cases in the Midwest USA of the farm community. Could it be that treatment of well-water was a fluorine additive and that it is easy to make the mistake of fluorine overdoses. The rise of Alzheimer disease in the past decades is usually attributed to the fact that people live longer, but that may be a convenient scapegoat. Perhaps the rise of Alzheimers, and especially women more than men is due to the proclivity of the tap water being overdosed with fluorine. So that a brain that recieves too much mercury along with fluorine is going to be set on a course of acquired Alzheimer disease. I challenge anyone in the Medical Community to explain where excess fluorine in a diet goes? Does it end up in the brain and does it affect beta amyloid formation? If we set up an experiment of the representative proteins of these 5 diseases such as the Prion Protein, Beta Amyloid protein, Alpha Synuclein protein and placed excess fluorine in that cell culture environment then do we start to see the formation of those diseases? Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies (snipped) > MY GUESS: I am guessing that excess fluorine in the human body is > easily recognized by this symptom. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > mouth sheds too much. But I would need a medical study to confirm this > speculation. So the easy analogy above of mouth skin shedding due to excess fluorine is to think of the brain with its beta amyloid protein that it sheds the beta amyloid as a waste product because of the excess fluorine inside the brain. The skin lining of the mouth keeps shedding the white skin because of excess fluorine and the mouth continues to replace the shed white skin. Likewise the analogy inside the brain where the excess fluorine starts to shed the beta amyloid of Alzheimers and the brain keeps wanting to replace this beta amyloid so produces even more beta amyloid. So the excess fluorine causes this vicious cycle of protein replacement and thus the disease. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies > (snipped) > > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > so produces even more beta amyloid. So the excess fluorine causes this > vicious cycle of protein replacement and thus the disease. I think there is another symptom of excess fluorine in the diet involving the eyes and vision. I believe with excess fluorine that we tend to see flashing lights especially in the morning from waking up that our peripheral vision is dotted with flashing lights which goes away as the day carries on. I am going to call it simply blurred vision. Now if fluorine is a major contributor to the disease of Alzheimers and since Alzheimers cases have been on the rise for the past 3 decades, then one would suspect that some eye diseases have been on a concurrent rise as with Alzheimers. Because if excess fluorine is the contributing cause, then a disease of eyesight would parallel Alzheimers. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies If my memory is correct when I was doing this book I looked up where the highest rates of Autism occurred in the USA and my memory says it was New Jersey. So indulge with me for a moment about excess fluorine as a major factor of these 5 diseases and Autism in particular. Now New Jersey is one of the most technology advanced states of our union and home of the prestigious university of Princeton. So it is not a backward nor backwash place of the USA. And if it is known that fluorine prevents tooth decay it is easy to imagine that New Jersey would be amply following a fluorine additive to drinking water and easy to see of excess additive. So what I am wondering is whether anyone has records of the highest incidents of Autism. Can we break those statistics down into whether one city has fluorine additive and another does not and whether the highest rates of Autism match the practice of adding fluorine to drinking water. Do we have a case where a county is supplied with drinking water that has no fluorine added and where there was never any case of Autism? And yet another county whose water supply has always added fluorine and where there are many cases of Autism? Ditto for the disease of Alzheimers. Do we find some pattern as to disease and drinking water with fluorine. So these are questions that have to be looked into and answered. P.S. if any of the above is true in part or whole, it is kind of funny in a devilish way that we have such zeal to prevent tooth decay by adding fluorine to the water and end up with contracting a brain disease of either Autism or Alzheimers because of that fluorine. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Uh, I think they add fluoride to water supplies not fluorine. --- www.analyticalchem.com > I have talked alot about mercury in this book with the modern day > common prevalence of mercury in the environment [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > whole entire Universe is just one big atom > where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies > Uh, I think they add fluoride to water supplies not fluorine. > --- > www.analyticalchem.com Fluoride ion begot from NaF or Na2SiF6 to be 1 ppm in drinking water. But who can trust all municipalities to have 1 ppm. Perhaps a employee dumps in 1,000 ppm. And what of the compound Hg2F2, mercury fluoride. Does it transport flouride into the brain? I am not sure that flouride causes the mouth lining to shed. The skin inside the mouth that periodically sheds and we feel it and notice it as white globules. But when you have too much fluoride, does it increase the shedding of the mouth lining? I know too much fluoride causes teeth mottling where there are white circles on the teeth. But what about the skin lining of the mouth? So, if too much fluoride causes excess shedding of skin cells, then perhaps too much fluoride inside the brain causes too much production of beta amyloid. Because as soon as the mouth sheds its lining, more new cells are created to replace those. Likewise in the brain for Alzheimers, if fluoride causes beta amyloid to shed, then more beta amyloid is manufactured. I admit there is a lot of speculation in those sentences above, but a logical pattern has been elucidated. So I would need to confirm that if excess fluoride causes the mouth lining to shed more frequently than normal and thus increases the production of new mouth lining would be analogous to excess fluoride in the brain causing beta amyloid to shed and thus the brain producing more unwanted beta amyloid. So this picture is rather logical and clear and can be the mechanism of Alzheimers. But it needs confirmation. And there is very little information as to mercury fluoride molecule. How would it be formed in the body? Perhaps from dental amalgams? And would this molecule become a transport system of excess fluoride ions ending up inside the brain. And we need to know how fluoride interacts with beta amyloid? Is the mouth lining chemistry similar to beta amyloid and is the mouth lining when it sheds and we spit out or pull out those white globules, have similar chemistry to the beta amyloid plaques in Alzheimers? Also there are the tau tangles in Alzheimers and they maybe accounted for by these excess fluoride in the brain in that fluoride would shed both of these proteins and cause more unwanted of these two proteins to be formed. In the mouth when the lining is shed we simply spit it out or sequester it with our fingers or tongue. But in the brain, we cannot sequester it out and thus we have this major disease of waste piling up. Alot of questions above need answers, but the point I am making is that there is a clear and logical mechanism pointed out as to how Alzheimers all takes place with the mouth lining analogy. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies I wrote a few minutes ago: > I am not sure that flouride causes the mouth lining to shed. The skin > inside the mouth that periodically sheds and [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > pointed out as to how Alzheimers all takes place with the mouth lining > analogy. There are two of these five diseases that are a buildup of a waste protein that cannot be easily removed from the brain. So death is caused by a garbage dump forming in the brain. The analogy of the skin shedding inside the mouth and accelerated by excess fluoride would serve not only for Alzheimers but for Prion Disease. Instead of fluoride, for Prion disease is likely caused by cesium and rubidium that gets inside the body. I say cesium and rubidium because the deer and antelope populations out in Colorado are highly inflicted with prion disease and there are cesium and rubidium found in those animals. So here the question is whether the animals that catch prion disease have eaten cesium and rubidium which then gets transported into the brain via mercury compounding with cesium or rubidium and this ending up inside the brain. Once in the brain the cesium and rubidium seem to attach to prion molecules and force them to shedd, much like our mouth lining shedds those white globules. And when the prion molecule is shedd, that forces the cells to produce more prion molecules. And thus a gradual buildup of unwanted protein molecules that leads to death. Now I am unaware of a buildup of a unwanted protein in Autism, in Parkinson and in Schizophrenia. So the above scenario may apply only to Alzheimers and Prion disease. And that a different mechanism applies to Autism Parkinson and Schizophrenia, but, however all five involve a metal poisoning of the brain. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Funny how I am not able to find a medical or health website for the normal peeling of the mouth mucous membrane. Maybe I do not have the correct combination of words for a Google Search to find what I am looking for. I think it was in my teens or maybe in my 20s when I first noticed that the body naturally replaces the mouth lining and that these white stringy things shed from inside the mouth. And I looked it up is some book which said it was a natural occurrence of the body. Just like it is natural for the skin to replace itself all over the body. But doing a Google search just never seems to find a website that tells us that replacement of the mucous membrane that lines the mouth is natural. And I made a Google search for the composition of the Mouth Mucous Membrane, hoping to find that it is a protein molecule. Those white stringy pieces. I only found lactoferrin. So this topic is not easy to find in a Google search because it brings up mostly rare diseases rather than what is normal for the mucous membrane. Why this is important. Well, I feel it is important because the mouth mucous membrane is almost a perfect analogy to the diseases of Alzheimers and Prion. That I speculate excess flouride in the mouth will cause increasing mucous membrane peeling and thus increasing replacement of that shedded membrane. Because it is in the mouth we can get rid of the shedded white stringy protein. But when the shedding of a protein occurs in the brain, it cannot be removed such as beta amyloid or tau protein or prion protein. So that if excess fluoride causes shedding of the mucous mouth membrane then some chemical causes the buildup of unwanted brain proteins. Perhaps it is fluoride also in the brain that is transported to the brain via mercury. Perhaps it is mercury-fluoride. So that people over a lifetime of drinking excess fluoride water and too much fluoride in toothbrushing end up with almost assured Alzheimers by the 80s. Almost a perfect analogy as to how Alzheimers and Prion disease work. That the mucous membrane of the mouth can be made to peel or shed faster than normal by the prescence of excess fluoride in the mouth. So the prescence of some excess chemical in the brain such as perhaps mercury and fluoride causes the diseases of Alzheimers and Prion. Now I do not know why it was so easy for me to find in a medical book in my teens or 20s (1960s through 1970s) that stated the peeling of white stringy masses inside the mouth lining was a normal and periodic occurrence for the mouth lining and why here in 2007 it is almost impossible to find on a Google search. Perhaps I am not searching the proper words. Or perhaps the way Google is set up that "normal" things are too difficult to find but that only abnormal and rare things make it to the top of a Google search in science. So that if you want to know what is normal and the basics of the mouth mucous membrane that it is almost impossible to find from Google. But that all the rare and irrelevancies of mouth mucous membrane appear in a search. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies J Dent Res 40(3): 436-445, 1961 International and American Associations for Dental Research Histochemistry of Oral Mucous Membrane: Total Protein, Sulfhydryls, Disulfides, Ribonucleic Acid, and Desoxyribonucleic Acid LOUIS A. CANCELLARO, JULES KLINGSBERG, and EARL O. BUTCHER The above is somewhat the information I want, but for some reason it would not download. So it leaves me with only the title. I was wanting to know how much of a percentage is the mucous membrane proteins? And what type of proteins. Are these proteins like that of beta amyloid and tau proteins in Alzheimer? Are they like the prion protein molecule? And I wanted to know if fluoride affects these proteins. Affects them to the point where they peel or shed from the mouth and so starting a new round of growing back mucous membrane to that of the lost mucous membrane. Then I want some science journal that specifically tells me when and how the mucous membrane naturally and of its own accord replaces itself? And details of the nature of its shedding or peeling? What is the average lifespan of mucous membrane? And I suppose someone has researched Alzheimers plaque buildup, and whether it follows a similar pattern as to the shedding or peeling of the mucous membrane. Of course, if there is a chemical involved such as mercury and or fluoride then the cure would be removal of the mercury and fluoride but as long as they are present in the brain, more plaques accrue. Now there are new drugs on the market that supposedly treat Alzheimers or halt its progression. So I wonder if these drugs work, whether they have something to do with removal of fluoride ions in the brain? Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Below is what I wrote in April, since I did not think fluoride was a leading cause of these 5 diseases. However now I believe that fluoride is a major contributing factor of both Autism and Alzheimers, and perhaps involved with Prion disease. I have read several websites after searching for "fluoride autism" in Google. And these are the proteins and concepts of that search: G-alpha proteins Retinoid Receptors Hippocampus Night Blindness So I am going to have to revise the April entries on Autism and Alzheimer, because suspect that fluoride is a major contributing factor. Whether mercury is involved at all in Autism or Alzeimer, I am not sure. Maybe the mercury is the transportation means for fluoride to get into the brain which it otherwise would not. If mercury is the transport, then mercury is a majore contributor of these diseases. I am not sure how easy or difficult it is for fluoride in water to get by the blood brain barrier and whether it needs mercury transport. One thing I find rather ominious is the fact that Autism really never gets widespread attention until starting around 1940s or 1950s when fluoridation of drinking water becomes common practice. And Alzheimers never really becomes widespread until after the 1950s. Most would say this is because we are living longer, but I would say there is more to it than that. Now I wonder about the German doctor Dr. Alzheimer who analyzed the first known victim in the 1890s and announced the plaques in the brain of that first victim. What I wonder is whether that first victim had alot of fluoridated drinking water? Some parts of the world have natural fluoridation of their drinking water. Newsgroups: sci.med, sci.chem, sci.bio.misc From: a_plutonium <a_pluton...@hotmail.com> Date: 18 Apr 2007 09:15:32 -0700 Local: Wed, Apr 18 2007 11:15 am Subject: #9 Autism Re: new book: Metal Causation coupled with Weak- Protein-Point ^Theory of Medicine (Autism, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, Schizophrenia, Prion) > New book: "Metal Causation coupled with Weak-Protein-Point ^Theory of > Medicine (Autism, Alzheimers, Parkinsons, Schizophrenia, Prion)", > Archimedes Plutonium, Internet book published 1996-2007 (assimilated > in April 2007 in sci.med,sci.chem,sci.bio.misc) > Chapters of this new book: > (1) Preface & Introduction [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > (8) how to medically prove the assertions of this book-- mass > spectroscopy of brain tissue With each of these 5 diseases, I would like to list a protein molecule for which the synthesis of that molecule has gone awry in the brain. Where the electrical environment of the brain facilitates the gone awry synthesis and where mercury and other toxic metals causes this gone awry pathology. In the case of Autism I am sorry I cannot point to a protein or even point to a very specific region of the brain which can be called the site or location of Autism. Perhaps one of the reasons I cannot point to a location is because Autism is the missing of part of a normal brain. The nerve sheaths of the brain that makeup a normal person was destroyed by mercury and other toxic metals. So we have a disease where we have missing nerve sheaths and those sheaths have not be enumerated and cataloged. Where is the likely source of the mercury poisoning? A real good candidate is Thimerosal which is a mercury compound used in vaccines to preserve the vaccine and administered to young infants during much of the second half of the 20th century. But mercury is prevalent in the air we breathe due to coal fired electric power stations and prevalent in the food we eat such as tuna fish and other fish. Geography supports the assertion that mercury is involved in Autism by the fact that many cases of Autism are near coal fired power stations. Researchers of Autism need to find out what nerve sheaths are missing in Autism. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies I really should include the oral mucous membrane along with G-alpha proteins and beta-amyloid. Years back the PBS TV documented Alzheimer and there they graphically showed that the scissors that cuts beta-amyloid is a corrupted scissors in that it leaves this stubb behind which is the beta-amyloid and which would then accumulate and cause death. So if that is the entire mechanism in Alzheimer, then what corrupts the cutting scissors? Is the corruption of the scissors caused by fluoride or by mercury? In Autism, it is alleged that the mechanism is a separation of the G- alpha protein from retinoid receptors. Perhaps this is another one of those enzymatic scissors gone awry as the Alzheimer scissors gone awry. Here again we ask the same question. What causes the separation of the G-alpha protein from retinoid receptors? Is it fluoride ions or is it mercury? In the Oral Mucous Membrane, when it naturally and periodically peels those white stringy proteins. This is normal peeling and replacement by new Mucous Membrane. But when we have too much fluoride ions present in the mouth and body then this peeling becomes more frequent and more abundant. So what does fluoride ions do to the mucous membrane that causes it to peel excessively? I tried looking for details of the proteins G-alpha and beta-amyloid and Mucous Membrane. There is little literature of these proteins on the Internet. So these three proteins must be in journals which are more difficult to access. What I think is true is that fluoride ions make their way into the brain via mercury-fluoride, hitching a ride with mercury to enter the brain. Once in the brain, the electrical energy of the brain can easily separate mercury from fluoride ions. The fluoride ions cause the corruption of the Alzheimer scissors that leaves the stubbs of beta amyloid. And as the years go by with more and more fluoride in the brain, more and more beta amyloid plaques build up. What I think happens for Autism is that just a tiny dose of mercury fluoride makes its way into the brain of a infant and the fluoride ions disconnect the retinoid receptors or possibly damage them for life. Now I may as well surmize what happens in Prion diseases. Since prion is a accumulation of unwanted proteins. And the prion protein is very much similar to the function of the protein of the Mucous Membrane as a cell wall acting protein. So that too much fluoride in the mouth leads to a peeling or shedding of the mucous membrane that too much fluoride ions in conjunction with mercury leads to a disfiguring of normal prion proteins into misshaped prion proteins which accumulate and cause death. So what the Kuru and cattle in mad cow disease were eating that was fatal is the mercury and fluoride found in those diseased brains. A nice check on Prion disease is to explain sheep scrapie. Do the sheep in England get more fluoride in their diet than normal? And history seems to support the above scenarios, since the rise of these three named above diseases coincides with the ever prevalence of fluoride drinking water and the rise of mercury in the air we breathe. Back in the 1800s few people in their 70s and 80s and 90s showed signs of Alzheimer and few infants showed signs of Autism. That is probably because fluoride in the drinking water was uncommon. But by the last decades of the 1900s each person in the USA is in contact with large doses of both fluoride and mercury. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies I wrote a few minutes ago: > Now I may as well surmize what happens in Prion diseases. Since prion > is a accumulation of unwanted proteins. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > sheep in England get more fluoride in their > diet than normal? There was a telling incident that happened in the history of Prion disease in the 1990s (if memory serves me). There was a case of where about 4 or 5 or 6 young people all died of Prion disease, and they called it something like variant-CJD. What was odd about it was that they were very young people, I believe some in their 20s. And CJD just never was seen before in such young people. They checked what they had in common and it was narrowed down to a restaurant where all had eaten. So it was supposed that some cattle meat was contaminated (as best my memory can serve), but nothing really was found. But this whole story makes alot more sense if the disease were caused by excess fluoride and mercury in the brain. That at the restaurant they had eaten something which had a mega dose of fluoride and/or mercury. So that it does not matter what age one is, but how much fluoride and mercury gets into the body. Both Alzheimer and Prion disease are slow time progressive diseases which makes sense as to fluoride poisoning is a slow and gradual process. But if you get a mega dosage of fluoride and there is mercury in the mouth such as dental amalgam, then the risk is high that this mercury-fluoride compound makes its way into the brain. Now the first cases studied of Prion disease if memory serves me was in New Guinea with the ritual practice of cannibalism, eating the brains of the departed. Now there is mercury mining activity in Papua New Guinea so there is mercury in the environment. Could there also have been fluoride treatment of the water in New Guinea? Or fluoride found abundantly in the natural environment in New Guinea? So that what the Kuru victims ate that was fatal to them was not a protein molecule but rather the mercury-fluoride compound that still remained in the brains of the deceased. Perhaps Medical Science can reopen these two incidents of the England fatalities and the Kuru fatalities and do a autopsy and check for levels of fluoride and mercury in the brain. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies I made a Google search for "natural fluoridation" and came up with these three sites: http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/crd/pdf/appc3.pdf http://www.nature.com/bdj/journal/v186/n8/full/4800122a.html http://www.quackwatch.org/03HealthPromotion/fluoride.html The third one although it is poorly named is one of the best historical sites on the subject of natural fluoridation for it tells of the history of discovery that fluoride saves the teeth from decay discovered by a Colorado dentist in the early 1900s and was called also "Texas teeth". The first two sites speak of Hartlepool England having about 1.2 ppm natural fluoridation. I do not know where Hartlepool is located, whether in the agriculture districts of England where there is alot of sheep scrapie and Mad cow disease? Anyway, it appears to me as a speculation that the geography of natural fluoridation traces roughly where the most incidents of Autism, Alzheimer and Prion diseases occur. I have often said that England has the highest cases of Prion disease in the world. Now if England has one of the highest concentrations of "natural fluoridation" then those two should be more than a coincidence. And Texas is known as one of the highest Autism rates in the USA if not the very highest. And Colorado is known for one of the highest Prion disease rates for deer and antelope type species, the genus that the deer is in. Now I do not know as of yet, whether the rates of Alzheimer disease is highest in these places of England and USA where natural fluoridation is high. If Alzheimer rates are very high in Texas and Colorada regions then that would not be coincidence. So what I am speculating is that many towns and municipal water across England and USA and Canada do not check what their water has in terms of Natural Fluoridation and add 1 ppm regardless if the water already has over 1 ppm naturally. So they end up with 2 ppm fluoride water. Now I have not seen a website that tells me how high "Natural Fluoridation" can be. Can you have some regions of the world where fluoride in the water is say 100 ppm? Are there regions of Colorado, Texas, and Hartlepool England that have huge doses of natural fluoridation? Fluoride is a strong chemical that easily prevents tooth decay. But fluoride is so strong of a chemical that it easily attacks many proteins of the body when in a steady dosage such as drinking water. And where modern civilization can easily make errors in excess adding of fluoride. We see this excess in the toothpaste as well as dental floss so that a average person is now saturated with daily contact of fluoride. And so the rise of these 3 diseases of Autism, Alzheimer and Prion closely match the rise of fluoridation additive since about 1950 onwards. One of the things I recently noticed for myself is the excessive peeling or shedding of my mucous membrane in my mouth when I drank and used the fluoride water of the city and used the fluoride toothpaste and fluoride dental floss. It is natural for the Mucous Membrane to shed periodically but not natural for it to shed almost all at once in a few days and frequent shedding. I think this is because I just had too much fluoride all at once. And have reverted to my old habit of drinking distilled water and cutting back on products with fluoride. We tend to overdo good things like preventing dental decay and by overdoing when run the reverse risk of catching a major disease like Autism, Alzheimer and Prion. It certainly is good to have no tooth decay but then we must be careful that we then do not cause a major disease. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Areas with very high natural fluoride concentrations in drinking water and its consequences: http://fluoridealert.org/fluorosis-india.htm pictures: http://www.nalgonda.org/fluorosis/flourosis_victim_pics.htm UNICEF: Overexposure to fluoride is poisonous http://yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=1060&p=health&a=1 Fluoridation 101 http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof Fluoridation News Releases http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu Tooth Decay Crises in Fluoridated Areas http://www.fluoridenews.blogspot.com/ Fluoride Action Network http://www.FluorideAction.Net Fluoride Journal http://www.FluorideResearch.Org > Areas with very high natural fluoride concentrations in drinking water > and its consequences: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Fluoride Journal http://www.FluorideResearch.Org Thanks for the above sources. It told me that 4 ppm was the toxic level and that 1 ppm is routinely added to the drinking water. But I can believe that so many cities and towns across the USA could easily and routinely make mistakes and errors and dump more than 1 ppm and easily dump say 10 ppm into that drinking water. So has anyone reported the mistakes that communities make as far as adding fluoride? I do not like the idea that 1 ppm is only a small step away from 4 ppm. Another item of the above reports is that Scandinavian countries of Finland, Sweden, Denmark are nonfluoridated water and yet there cavity rate is 2% whereas fluoridated USA is 50%. The above reports also tells me that 1.5 milligrams per liter is the alleged safe upper limit and that places like Yemen routinely have "natural fluoride" as high as 3 to 6.5 milligrams per liter. I wonder how high the natural fluoride was for Colorado and Texas? But the above did not really touch on the idea that if a chemical such as fluoride can damage the bones so easily, then such a potent chemical must also harm the synthesis of many proteins. I believe that fluoride first signs of damage are not the teeth or bones but the Oral Mucous Membrane and that those stringy white substance is peeled or shed from the Mucous Membrane. So that if one fears too much fluoride and if one has a peeling of white stringy substance in their mouths then that is the first indication that their bodies has too much fluoride. I suspect that Alzheimer disease, if not caused by fluoride in the brain, is accelerated by fluoride in the brain. I suspect that Autism is connected with too much fluoride for babies. Whether mercury compounded with fluoride is the transport system of getting fluoride into the brain is unknown to me. Whether it is both mercury and fluoride together or alone that causes or accelerates Autism and Alzheimers. Anyway, if it can be shown that Autism and Alzheimer are linked with too much fluoride in the body, then I believe that is the easiest and most simple way of turning back the clock and getting fluoride out of our drinking water. I believe that people who want fluoride should be able to buy it in a toothpaste form and that outlaw fluoride from the drinking water. In other words, if you want fluoride then buy toothpaste, but do not force it on everyone who wants to drink water. So the moment a science research shows us that Autism and Alzheimer are connected to excess fluoride is the moment where drinking water can become nonfluoridated. Does anyone know if the Scandinavian countries of Denmark, Sweden, Finland have less Autism and less Alzheimer? Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/varner-1998.pdf The above is a really good website about transport of Fluoride ion to the brain and that AlF3 crosses the Blood Brain Barrier BBB much easier than does the ions separately. I wonder if anyone has researched whether HgF crosses the BBB better than AlF3? But there was a peculiar paragraph in the above that said AlF3 in dosage of 0.5ppm caused more illness and death than doses of 5ppm and 50ppm. No explanation is known, but that was 1997-8. Perhaps ten years later someone has explained it? Perhaps the explanation involves the idea that if in large doses, the complex does not separate but reforms with a nearby AlF3. Whereas in the low dose of 0.5ppm when the AlF3 complex separates it stays separate and the damage and harm is caused by the separate F ions. Another explanation maybe that in large doses the body just sends it into the waste tract of excrement or urination, or throwup. Read another website which discussed the toxicity of concentrated hydrofluoric acid and how a tiny accidental spill is quickly uptaked into deep internal organs leading to quick death. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies > http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/varner-1998.pdf > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > accidental spill is quickly uptaked into deep internal organs leading > to quick death. Perhaps the explanation is that 0.5ppm can easily form into hydrofluoric acid whereas 5ppm or 50ppm cannot. > Archimedes Plutonium > www.iw.net/~a_plutonium > whole entire Universe is just one big atom > where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Last night I wrote: > Perhaps the explanation is that 0.5ppm can easily form into > hydrofluoric acid whereas > 5ppm or 50ppm cannot. The above concerns this website: http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/brain/varner-1998.pdf And I was wondering if in chemistry there ever was a example of where a substance in small doses was a health risk but in larger doses was not? And I cannot think of a single example of where that is true. That in all cases of a substance being a health risk that it is even more of a risk in large doses. But I do not know of all of chemistry. So maybe some chemist who daily works in a chemistry laboratory knows of a chemical substance that is a health risk in small doses but not in larger doses. Since I cannot think or know of a substance that is more dangerous in small doses then I have to, by logic, say that the research of the above website needs to be duplicated and checked out. If the experiment is repeated and the results confirm the above "varner report" then this maybe a chemistry first discovery of where a small dose is more dangerous than a larger dose. Could it be that in a small dose of 0.5ppm that the AlF3 molecule can form the dangerous hydrofluoric acid but in large dose of 5ppm or 50ppm that hydrofluoric acid cannot form?? That certainly would explain the bizarre Varner Report above. And I think there are many analogies or examples in chemistry where a reaction does not take place except for in a specified concentration. An easy example is that too much salt simply precipates out Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies On the TV tonight was Nightline wiith a story on Autism and a group suing the CDC for the mercury in vaccines administered to babies. Nightline did a rather poor job of reporting in that it kept attacking Dr. & Dr. Geier (hope I spelled that correctly) of a father son doctors who support the theory of mercury causation for autism. In courts and in litigation, often it is science itself that gets degraded. For example, the CDC last year and previous years has advocated and supported the issue of warding off people from eating too much fish such as tuna because of mercury. And their warning is particularly directed at pregnant women. I forget what they specifically recommended such as only one serving per month. And these warnings are because of the high content of mercury. So the CDC is very much hypocrites for on the one hand they tell how dangerous fish are for pregnant women and on the other hand they want to enter the courtroom by saying that Dr Geier & Dr. Geier have no scientific evidence that mercury in the vaccines harms and causes autism. So why attack Dr. Geier when it is obvious commonsense that no babies should be exposed to mercury especially at such a young age. Why should the CDC bother about warning pregnant women over fish, when they act as hypocrites trying to defeat a lawsuit on mercury administered to babies. What bothers me most in this case of a lawsuit is that the CDC abandons science. They seem to bend over backwards in attacking Dr. Geier and they label mercury research as "junk science", yet they are two-faced in warding off pregnant women from eating fish. Let the facts speak in the lawsuit. It is obvious mercury is dangerous. It is obvious mercury is more dangerous to babies than to older people. So why was mercury allowed to be administered to babies and the answer is obvious that the CDC cares more about making money for drug companies and winning lawsuits than about applying commonsense. For science is commonsense. The CDC really should not even be in the courtroom since it is indefensible to be in the witness chair and say that mercury is dangerous for pregnant women by eating too much fish, and then say that mercury as a component of vaccines for babies has no role in Autism. What the Nightline report brings into focus is that the CDC acts more like a puppet to drug companies defending drug companies, then it spends on science. And the CDC in this lawsuit will likely end up degrading science. Granted, the precise steps of interaction of mercury in a baby and how that mercury leads to autism is not yet known, and it is not known whether mercury even causes Autism. But it is known for certain that mercury in the brains of human adults is dangerous and thus it is even more dangerous to babies. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies In that TV Nightline report the CDC was mentioned, but I do not know for sure whether the lawsuit is with the CDC for it maybe the dept. of Health of the government. A group of families with autistic children are sueing the government for the administering of mercury laden vaccine to their infants. Mercury was used as a preservative in vaccines in the 20th century. My gripe is that the lawsuit will degrade the science. That the government will say there is no proof that mercury causes autism. But there is no proof that mercury can cause autism. In other words there is "no proof" either way. And that is because we simply do not know enough about Autism at this time. So I hope the court battle does not end up as a degradation of science, because there is no science evidence either way about Autism. Some future research may finally uncover the workings of Autism and how much was a factor of mercury remains to be seen. So, in my opinion, the way the court case of this should go is to prove that the government was reckless and negligent in keeping the use of mercury as a preservative of vaccines and the potential harm and danger that creates for babies and infants. It is my opinion that the trial over mercury laden vaccines is not one of proving cause of Autism but rather the proving of Government negligence in allowing a mercury laden product that exposed thousands of infants to a toxic substance of mercury. That the case should dwell on the fact that mercury is a known toxic substance, especially young people. And that the government should have insisted the mercury be banned. >From my viewpoint the government was reckless and negligent by insisting that mercury laden vaccine was not dangerous. The government should have pulled all mercury laden products from the market. And the government failed in informing parents in the 1900s that the vaccine contained a toxic substance. If parents knew that drugs and vaccines were labeled as to contents and read "contains mercury", then many of those parents may have opted out. But instead, ingredients were never labeled. So in this regard of a known toxic substance is used but not labeled and the unquestionable danger of mercury, that the government should be found guilty. The trial is not over whether mercury causes autism. The trial is over the fact that mercury is a toxic substance and the government did not bann its use from the start. An analogy would be to use trans-fat or hydrogenated fat in all your cooking and feed it to guests without telling them of the content. Or another analogy would be to make respirators out of asbestos, and claiming that the asbestos is harmless. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies One thing I am beginning to learn now is the unique feature of a running dialogue about the subject after the main portion of the book was written. So that news about the subject can be incorporated and commented on and then once the new revision of the book takes place all the news commentary of the Postscript is once again empty. The Postscript Chapter does not have to be about late-breaking news on the subject, but can be further insights of the subject of the book. And this chapter becomes empty once a revision of the book takes place. So the book has two main areas-- the main portion of the book and the last chapter which covers news and new insights of the main portion. So all of my Internet published books have a last chapter of Postscript News Commentary. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies The use of mercury as a preservative in vaccines such as Thimerosal is being challenged in the court system by angry parents of Autistic children. Normally I would avoid such issues since they are more social than they are scientific. But here I am giving my opinion because the government and its science health department is abandoning science itself and degrading science and acting more as a "lets save money" than acting as "lets pursue the truth". The govt-health-science is claiming in the lawsuit that "mercury has not been proven to cause Autism". This is a true statement. Since there exists only some hints and some indications but not proof. What the govt-health-science neglects to say is "there is no proof the other direction that mercury plays a major role in causing Autism." So, yes, there is no proof that mercury causes Autism, but there is no proof in the other direction that mercury is the major factor in causing Autism. However, THERE IS PROOF THAT MERCURY IS A TOXIC POISON ESPECIALLY TO YOUNG CHILDREN AND BABIES. There is that proof and this is what the govt-health-department should be on trial for. That the govt should be found guilty in this Autism case because it allowed a known toxic poison to enter the bodies of babies and infants. When science knows of a toxic poison, then no health department should ever allow that poison to be used in some way shape or form. So this is what the legal case, in my opinion, is all about. Analogy, suppose some company wanted to make money from making respirators that used asbestos fibers and because they could make money from it, the govt health department, knowing that asbestos near lungs of humans is a dangerous substance, but because of the money profit involved, the govt health department allowed it. Same thing with Thimerosal. This lawsuit is not a legal battle to prove whether mercury causes or does not cause Autism. This lawsuit is about whether the govt health department knowing mercury is a acute toxic poison and yet allowed it to be widely used. It will take some years or months longer before science has the definitive answer as to what role mercury plays in causing Autism, whether it plays a major role or a minor role or no role. Future science will prove it. But this lawsuit is not about that "proof" which will come in the future. This lawsuit is about a Government Health Department that knows and knew full well in the last century that mercury is a very toxic poison and that mercury had no business and no reason for ever being allowed in the bodies of young children. One thing good about this lawsuit is that it will speed up this science research topic of finding out just exactly how much involvement mercury has with causing Autism. In my estimation, mercury is key in causing Autism and it maybe that mercury in conjunction with some other element such as FLUORIDE maybe the cause of this horrible disease of Autism. It maybe the case that mercury-fluoride is the transport of fluoride to the brain area that destroys the part of the brain which results in Autism. So this trial may thus speed up this research. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies Correction of my writing mistake: > The govt-health-science is claiming in the lawsuit that "mercury has > not been proven to cause Autism". This [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > in this Autism case because it allowed a known toxic poison to enter > the bodies of babies and infants. I think I made those writing mistakes because of my aversion to "double negatives". Maybe I made the mistake in writing so as to emphasize this post. The above should have read: (1) "there is no proof the other direction that mercury does not play a major role in causing Autism." (2) there is no proof in the other direction that mercury is not the major factor in causing Autism Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies >From the TV, it sounds as though the CDC is trying to squeck out of this lawsuit by angry parents of Autistic children with a mantra of "there is no proof that mercury causes Autism". What I am saying is that the CDC cannot cling to that mantra because of the reverse statement " there is no proof that mercury does not cause Autism". So if the CDC scientists try to cling to the excuse of proof or no proof, they cannot cling because science has not proven either way of what mercury does. It is my opinion that the CDC and the entire USA Health dept is on trial because it allowed a known and proven toxic poison of mercury to be used as a preservative for vaccines called Thimerosal. It is my opinion they are obviously guilty. To me, it is like allowing manufactures to make respirators out of asbestos fibers. Or like allowed to add hydrofluoric acid to soft drink to give it fizzle. Perhaps the CDC and USA govt health dept allowed Thimerosal from the bad judgement that mercury was used in dental fillings with no apparent harm. But it is time now to also remove mercury from dentistry since we have great substitutes of plastic fillings and do not need mercury ever to be used as fillings. I searched for Minamata mercury Autism and found this website: quoting from: http://www.ewg.org/reports/autism/part4.php The indisputable toxicity of mercury to the brain, particularly the developing brain (Limke 2004, Clarkson 2002, Mahaffey 1999). Peer-reviewed reports showing that autistic children are extremely poor at ridding their bodies of mercury as measured by mercury hair levels (Holmes 2003). The recent finding that autism-like symptoms are triggered by thimerosal in mice with a predisposition to autoimmunity (Hornig 2004). The fact that the prevalence of autism in boys is four times that in girls, and that boys have elevated incidence of damage from mercury exposure in epidemiologic studies (Vahter 2002). --- end quoting --- As I said before, there is no proof that mercury causes Autism, but then again, there is no proof that mercury does not cause Autism. This is because the Science has not found the answers yet. The science is premature, but give it some time, perhaps 5 or 10 years and we should know alot of the answers about mercury involvement with Autism. The world in the past year has witnessed the terrific toxicity of Polonium 210 and how it killed a Russian living in England. The world has witnessed the accidental poisoning of a small minute amount of methylmercury which can penetrate through latex gloves and kill. Mercury is one of the most deadly poisons and yet ironically for decades the USA government Health authorities said that mercury in vaccines for babies and infants is okay. If the families of these autistic children win the lawsuit, and I believe they should win, then it is a victory for commonsense, that when a government lists Toxic Poisons, then do not use them, ever, no matter what the excuse is (such as the silly excuse of preservative). And let us get mercury use out of dentistry completely. When you know something is a toxic poison then find a safe substitute and use that substitute. Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies >Areas with very high natural fluoride concentrations in drinking water >and its consequences: Nice selection of carefully researched biased literature. Well done :)
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