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Borked Pseudo Mailed - 06 Jun 2007 22:36 GMT

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The frogs die of cancer,
not heart disease.

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axlq - 07 Jun 2007 06:19 GMT

>http://tinyurl.com/yvrddt
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>The frogs die of cancer,
>not heart disease.

Probably because the majority of them smoke. At least it seemed that
way to me.

I remember waiting for a flight at Marseilles International Airport.
There was a big "NO SMOKING" sign (in French) in huge letters on the
wall in the waiting area. People were cheerfully ignoring the sign,
puffing away. Nobody enforced it.

Interestingly, I don't recall anyone smoking in museums, and we ate in
outdoor cafes often so it wasn't a problem in restaurants. But they
sure smoked a lot, otherwise.

-A

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Julian Macassey - 07 Jun 2007 13:39 GMT

>>http://tinyurl.com/yvrddt
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> Probably because the majority of them smoke. At least it seemed that
> way to me.

The French, are smoking less though.

> I remember waiting for a flight at Marseilles International Airport.
> There was a big "NO SMOKING" sign (in French) in huge letters on the
> wall in the waiting area. People were cheerfully ignoring the sign,
> puffing away. Nobody enforced it.

My father, who retired to Nice, explained to me that the
French have lots of laws that they cheerflly ignore. You want
rule followers? Go to Germany.

I recall that at one time, cirrhosis of the liver was the
number three killer in France. Quelle surprise!

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(null) - 09 Jun 2007 02:39 GMT

>>>The frogs die of cancer, not heart disease.
>>
>> Probably because the majority of them smoke. At least it seemed that
>> way to me.
>
> The French, are smoking less though.

Quite a bit less. Gauloise closed their plant in France a few years ago.

>> I remember waiting for a flight at Marseilles International Airport.
>> There was a big "NO SMOKING" sign (in French) in huge letters on the
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>French have lots of laws that they cheerflly ignore. You want
>rule followers? Go to Germany.

Oy. I recall crossing, on a Sunday no less, a Munich street against
the red light - not a car in sight for blocks - and half-way to the
other side feeling multiple German death stares against my jacket.
Turned around, sure as hell, they're to a man glaring at me. A cheery
wave did nothing to lighten the mood.

> I recall that at one time, cirrhosis of the liver was the
>number three killer in France. Quelle surprise!

The French still complain about their livers at the drop of a Pernod.

Francois, and gobble homeopathic remedies like candy.

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Icono Clast - 09 Jun 2007 11:58 GMT

> Oy. I recall crossing, on a Sunday no less, a Munich street
> against the red light - not a car in sight for blocks - and
> half-way to the other side feeling multiple German death stares
> against my jacket. Turned around, sure as hell, they're to a man
> glaring at me. A cheery wave did nothing to lighten the mood.

So things haven't changed:
During the Kennedy Administration, I spent some time in Hamburg.
Most days I would go to a kaffee auschank across a narrow street from
Woolworth's on Jungfernsteig. I would wait for the red light before
crossing the seldom used alley that went to the Rathausplatz. When I
crossed, the Germans couldn't believe that I wasn't waiting for a
green light with them on the sidewalk.

In Berlin, however, about thirteen months ago, things were different.
No, they don't cross streets as New Yorkers do, but they're neither
as you describe nor as I experienced decades ago.

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