Hi,
I have recently had my first two colonscopy. Both times were
unsuccessful because they say the clean out was not good enough.
The first I simply got a Fleet kit and followed the instructions. The
second time I added a day of soups (not clear), followed by a bottle
of Mag Citrate at bedtime, then a day of clear broths, and a gallon of
Golitely with four laxative pills as instructed
Nonetheless when morning arrived I was only passing a bit (less than a
cup) of brown water. At least 5 more times, cups(or less) of brown
water untill the colonscopy which was at 2 PM (again unsuccessful)
So.... I am again scheduled for another attempt. Thus my query.
What can I do to achieve a successful clean out?
If clean out is still not complete, is there some way the doctor can
irrigate to clear things up?
Jeff - 01 May 2007 15:06 GMT
> Hi,
>
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> If clean out is still not complete, is there some way the doctor can
> irrigate to clear things up?
Two thoughts come to mind:
1) Presumably, the doctor has experience with this sort of problem and is
the person to guide you. In addition, she presumably knows your history,
which is helpful when giving medical advice.
2) There is a reason why you're not coming clean. Perhaps that is the reason
for the colonoscopy in the first place. Again, your doctors are the right
people to ask about this.
Jeff
Howard McCollister - 01 May 2007 16:39 GMT
> Hi,
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> If clean out is still not complete, is there some way the doctor can
> irrigate to clear things up?
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Usually an iso-osmotic polyethyleneglycol prep (PEG) prep like GoLytely or
Colyte is used when the Fleets prep doesn't work. Plus, there's that nasty
little liability problem with phosphate-induced renal failure with phospha
soda in a certain subset of patients.
HMc
Mark & Steven Bornfeld - 01 May 2007 17:27 GMT
>> Hi,
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>
> HMc
Howard--
I had my first colonoscopy 2 years ago at age 53. I was given
phosphosoda as my prep, and it worked well.
I only heard of the renal risk afterwards. Is this predictable based
on patient medical history, or should it just be avoided?
Steve

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Howard McCollister - 02 May 2007 02:28 GMT
> Howard--
>
> I had my first colonoscopy 2 years ago at age 53. I was given phosphosoda
> as my prep, and it worked well.
> I only heard of the renal risk afterwards. Is this predictable based on
> patient medical history, or should it just be avoided?
It's rare, but many practices have gone away from using phospho-soda preps
because of the potential liability associated. There are television
commercials seen fairly often these days from personal-injury lawyers
trolling for patients who've had colonoscopy with phospho-soda preps.
Here is the FDA advisory on the subject.
http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/infopage/OSP_solution/backgrounder.htm
"Individuals at increased risk include: those of advanced age, those with
decreased intravascular volume or kidney disease, and those using medicines
that affect renal perfusion or function [diuretics, angiotensin converting
enzyme (ACE) inhibitors, angiotensin receptor blockers (ARBs), and possibly
nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs)]."
HMc
Steven Bornfeld - 02 May 2007 03:18 GMT
>> Howard--
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> HMc
Thanks Doc--I guess I have a few years before I have to worry about it
again. That last one (NSAIDS) certainly would seem to increase the
potential "at risk" pool.
Steve
J - 02 May 2007 07:51 GMT
> The
> second time I added a day of soups (not clear), followed by a bottle
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> What can I do to achieve a successful clean out?
Start the clear broth 24 hours before the test.
Wake up earlier, test day, drink lots of water, don't leave house until
you're passing "clear".
J