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More evidence that Vitamin C cures cancer

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Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 26 Mar 2007 19:30 GMT
Just came across this 2005 study.  Appears the key is to give massive does
by I.V. instead of orally.

http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/102/38/13604
Robert1 - 26 Mar 2007 19:38 GMT
On Mar 26, 10:30 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Just came across this 2005 study.  Appears the key is to give massive does
> by I.V. instead of orally.
>
> http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/102/38/13604

Test tube experiments mean very little.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 26 Mar 2007 20:16 GMT
> On Mar 26, 10:30 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>
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>
> Test tube experiments mean very little.

You are an obvious big pharma shill paid to say that.  Your boss hates
Vit C cures cause Vit C is so cheap.
Robert1 - 26 Mar 2007 21:29 GMT
On Mar 26, 11:16 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > On Mar 26, 10:30 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>
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> You are an obvious big pharma shill paid to say that.  Your boss hates
> Vit C cures cause Vit C is so cheap.

They did test tube experiments and I stated they were test tubes
experiments. Nobody has to pay anybody for saying the obvious.
There is nothing cheap about paying somebody money for a useless
procedure with no proven benefit.
Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS - 27 Mar 2007 01:39 GMT
> On Mar 26, 11:16 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>
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> There is nothing cheap about paying somebody money for a useless
> procedure with no proven benefit.

What's obvious is that you're a paid big pharma shill.
just Ed - 28 Mar 2007 03:35 GMT
On Mar 26, 6:39 pm, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> > On Mar 26, 11:16 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> What's obvious is that you're a paid big pharma shill.

you're pitching use of a product for something, clearly you're
the shill (besides being an utter a.shole).
Jeff - 26 Mar 2007 19:47 GMT
> Just came across this 2005 study.  Appears the key is to give massive does
> by I.V. instead of orally.
>
> http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/102/38/13604

This was a test tube experiment. It doesn't mean that IV vitamin C would
help.

Jeff
Scotius - 27 Mar 2007 01:03 GMT
>Just came across this 2005 study.  Appears the key is to give massive does
>by I.V. instead of orally.
>
>http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/102/38/13604

    Linus Pauling won a nobel prize, so I guess he knew what he
was talking about. He credited his personal longevity to his use of
Vitamin C.
David Wright - 27 Mar 2007 01:54 GMT
>>Just came across this 2005 study.  Appears the key is to give massive does
>>by I.V. instead of orally.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>was talking about. He credited his personal longevity to his use of
>Vitamin C.

So what?  He also claimed vitamin C would cure cancer.  He died of
cancer.  Pauling was a brilliant chemist.  That doesn't mean he was
automatically a brilliant medical researcher.

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Bob - 28 Mar 2007 04:01 GMT
>>Just came across this 2005 study.  Appears the key is to give massive does
>>by I.V. instead of orally.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>    Linus Pauling won a nobel prize, so I guess he knew what he
>was talking about.

That is nonsensical. One does not judge an idea by the reputation of
the person who proposes it. In fact, most of Pauling's ideas were
wrong. In his own words (approx), the secret is to "have lots and lots
of ideas, and then throw out the bad ones". A great scientist, such as
Pauling, is great because he has so many ideas and then tries to
evaluate them critically.

bob
What Me Worry? - 27 Mar 2007 04:39 GMT
> Just came across this 2005 study.  Appears the key is to give massive does
> by I.V. instead of orally.
>
> http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/102/38/13604

I assisted a research physician 26 years ago who [claimed to have*] put
several terminal cancer patients into remission using only megadose vitamin
C therapy (mixed ascorbates, IV administered). He kept upping the dose of
vitamin C until their bodies hit saturation (indicated by onset of
diarrhea).  Healthy adults saturate at around 12-20 grams/day.  The cancer
patients were saturating at upwards of 110 grams/day!  They were taking no
chemotherapy or other drugs, and were in full remission.  I helped with the
analysis of a study he conducted showing undeniable health benefits of
megadose ascorbates. JAMA would not publish his papers, despite the
astounding revelations they contained about simple, non-toxic, natural
treatments for increased wellness.  Gee, I wonder why...

BTW: Don't bother with anything but mixed ascorbates.  Emergen-C is my
personal favorite.

* - I take the doctor at his word, though I was unable to validate this
claim myself.
Bob - 28 Mar 2007 04:01 GMT
>Just came across this 2005 study.  Appears the key is to give massive does
>by I.V. instead of orally.

You make it sound like that is their conclusion. It's not; it is the
hypothesis they end up with. And they say they are testing it. Good
clinical trials would help!

bob

>http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/102/38/13604

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