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ironjustice - 10 Jul 2009 14:38 GMT
"Lupus is independently associated Porphyria cutanea tarda"
"Porphyria cutanea tarda has been associated with hemochromatosis"

That means .. again .. the question of
"iron deficiency in everyone with Lupus"
comes into question ..

http://mayoclinproc.highwire.org/content/84/7/639.full

66-Year-Old Woman With Painless Vesicular Lesions
Aditya Bardia, MBBS, MPH*, Elizabeth A. Swanson, MD† and Kris G.
Thomas, MD‡
+Author Affiliations

*Resident in Internal Medicine, Mayo School of Graduate Medical
Education, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
†Resident in Dermatology, Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education,
Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
‡Advisor to residents and Consultant in Primary Care Internal
Medicine, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Individual reprints of this article are not available. Address
correspondence to Kris G. Thomas, MD, Division of Primary Care
Internal Medicine, Mayo Clinic, 200 First St SW, Rochester, MN 55905
(thomas.kris@mayo.edu).
See end of article for correct answers to questions.

A 66-year-old woman presented to the internal medicine clinic with a 1-
month history of painless vesicular lesions on her hands.
A tense blister was first noted on the lateral aspect of her right
index finger. This lesion lasted for about 7 days and then
spontaneously resolved.
Subsequently, 2 similar lesions appeared on her left index finger.
She denied lesions elsewhere on her body, including palmar surfaces,
soles, and mucosal areas.
She denied trauma to the lesions of concern.
She denied fevers, chills, night sweats, abdominal pain, arthralgias,
joint swelling, rash, pruritus, photosensitivity, neurologic symptoms,
and constitutional symptoms.
On detailed questioning, she acknowledged that her urine appeared red-
tinged with her first morning void.
Her medical history was notable for depression, impaired fasting
glucose, osteopenia, and hypertension.
She had no known history of rheumatologic conditions, liver disease,
or diabetes.
Her medications, all long-term, included mirtazapine, metoprolol, a
multivitamin, calcium, and aspirin.
She did not smoke or drink alcohol, had no history of intravenous drug
use, and was in a monogamous relationship with her husband.
Family history was remarkable for similar symptoms in her mother and
sister.
Her occupation involved office work, and she denied activities
involving constant rubbing.
Her hobbies included gardening.

Physical examination revealed a 9-mm × 6-mm tense blister on the
lateral surface of the left index finger.
A 2-cm-wide patch of erythematous hyperpigmentation surrounded this
blister and was focused at the site of her previously healed blister
(Figure).
Excessive fine hair growth was observed on her lateral face.
The remainder of her examination was unremarkable.

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Ken - 10 Jul 2009 15:39 GMT
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ironjustice - 10 Jul 2009 15:50 GMT
On Jul 10, 7:39 am, Ken <flakey...@earthlink.net> wrote: snip <<

"Lupus is independently associated Porphyria cutanea tarda"
"Porphyria cutanea tarda has been associated with hemochromatosis"

That means .. again .. the question of
"iron deficiency in everyone with Lupus"
comes into question ..

http://mayoclinproc.highwire.org/content/84/7/639.full

66-Year-Old Woman With Painless Vesicular Lesions
Aditya Bardia, MBBS, MPH*, Elizabeth A. Swanson, MD† and Kris G.
Thomas, MD‡
+Author Affiliations

*Resident in Internal Medicine, Mayo School of Graduate Medical
Education, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
†Resident in Dermatology, Mayo School of Graduate Medical Education,
Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
‡Advisor to residents and Consultant in Primary Care Internal
Medicine, Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Individual reprints of this article are not available. Address
correspondence to Kris G. Thomas, MD, Division of Primary Care
Internal Medicine, Mayo Clinic, 200 First St SW, Rochester, MN 55905
(thomas.k...@mayo.edu).
See end of article for correct answers to questions.

A 66-year-old woman presented to the internal medicine clinic with a
1-
month history of painless vesicular lesions on her hands.
A tense blister was first noted on the lateral aspect of her right
index finger. This lesion lasted for about 7 days and then
spontaneously resolved.
Subsequently, 2 similar lesions appeared on her left index finger.
She denied lesions elsewhere on her body, including palmar surfaces,
soles, and mucosal areas.
She denied trauma to the lesions of concern.
She denied fevers, chills, night sweats, abdominal pain, arthralgias,
joint swelling, rash, pruritus, photosensitivity, neurologic
symptoms,
and constitutional symptoms.
On detailed questioning, she acknowledged that her urine appeared
red-
tinged with her first morning void.
Her medical history was notable for depression, impaired fasting
glucose, osteopenia, and hypertension.
She had no known history of rheumatologic conditions, liver disease,
or diabetes.
Her medications, all long-term, included mirtazapine, metoprolol, a
multivitamin, calcium, and aspirin.
She did not smoke or drink alcohol, had no history of intravenous
drug
use, and was in a monogamous relationship with her husband.
Family history was remarkable for similar symptoms in her mother and
sister.
Her occupation involved office work, and she denied activities
involving constant rubbing.
Her hobbies included gardening.

Physical examination revealed a 9-mm × 6-mm tense blister on the
lateral surface of the left index finger.
A 2-cm-wide patch of erythematous hyperpigmentation surrounded this
blister and was focused at the site of her previously healed blister
(Figure).
Excessive fine hair growth was observed on her lateral face.
The remainder of her examination was unremarkable.

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ironjustice - 11 Jul 2009 15:59 GMT
"Lupus is independently associated Porphyria cutanea tarda"
"Porphyria cutanea tarda has been associated with hemochromatosis" <<

Effect of an oral iron chelator or iron-deficient diets on
uroporphyria in a murine model of porphyria cutanea tarda.
Hepatology. 2007 Sep 13;
Gorman N, Zaharia A, Trask HS, Szakacs JG, Jacobs NJ, Jacobs JM,
Balestra D, Sinclair JF, Sinclair PR.
Veterans Affairs Medical Center, White River Junction, VT.

Porphyria cutanea tarda is a liver disease characterized by elevated
hepatic iron and excessive production of uroporphyrin (URO).
Phlebotomy is an effective treatment that probably acts by reducing
hepatic iron.
Here we used Hfe(-/-) mice to compare the effects on
hepatic URO accumulation of two different methods of hepatic iron
depletion: iron chelation using deferiprone (L1) versus iron-
deficient diets.
Hfe(-/-) mice in a 129S6/SvEvTac background were fed 5-
aminolevulinic acid (ALA), which results in hepatic URO accumulation,
and increasing doses of L1 in the drinking water. Hepatic URO
accumulation was completely prevented at low L1 doses, which partially
depleted hepatic nonheme iron. By histological assessment, the
decrease in hepatic URO accumulation was associated with greater
depletion of iron from hepatocytes than from Kupffer cells.
The L1 treatment had no effect on levels of hepatic cytochrome P4501A2
(CYP1A2).
L1 also effectively decreased hepatic URO accumulation in
C57BL/6 Hfe(-/-) mice treated with ALA and a CYP1A2 inducer. ALA-
treated mice maintained on defined iron-deficient diets, rather than
chow diets, did not develop uroporphyria, even when the animals were
iron-supplemented either directly in the diet or by iron dextran
injection.
Conclusion:
The results suggest that dietary factors other than iron are involved
in the development of uroporphyria and that a modest depletion of
hepatocyte iron by L1 is sufficient to prevent URO accumulation.
(HEPATOLOGY 2007.).

PMID: 17854053

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> That means .. again .. the question of
> "iron deficiency in everyone with Lupus"
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>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
ironjustice - 11 Jul 2009 17:28 GMT
On Jul 11, 7:59 am, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com> wrote:The
results suggest that dietary factors other than iron are involved
in the development of uroporphyria and that a modest depletion of
hepatocyte iron by L1 is sufficient to prevent URO accumulation. <<

And this "other substance"  was vitamin C remember .. ?
WHEN the iron GOT TO A CERTAIN POINT the vitamin C no longer could
PREVENT the increased iron from causing the uroporphyria.

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>  "Lupus is independently associated Porphyria cutanea tarda"
>  "Porphyria cutanea tarda has been associated with hemochromatosis" <<
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ironjustice - 12 Jul 2009 03:22 GMT
a modest depletion of hepatocyte iron by L1 is sufficient to prevent
URO accumulation. <<

This study showed CLEARLY increased porphyrin in lupus patients
but when lupus patients are questioned .. ? ..

They've never heard of a porphyrin.

http://tinyurl.com/2qnmut

Indian Journal of Dermatology, Venereology and Leprology
Year : 1985  |  Volume : 51  |  Issue : 4  |  Page : 217--218

A Profile of Porhyrins in Cases .of Discoid Lupus Erythematosus

Jain C, Handa F, Sidhu KS
Correspondence Address:
Jain C

Porphyrin levels in nineteen cases of discoid lupus erythematosus
were
compared with porphyrin levels in ten controls using Rimingto.in's
technique. The erythrocyte protoporphyrin, urinary uroporphyrin and
faecal coproporph rin and faccal protoporphyrin were found to be
significantly raised as compared to the controls.
----------------------------

Original Article
Heme metabolism and in vitro erythropoiesis in anemia associated with
hypochromic microcytosis
A. C. Brown 1, J. D. Lutton 1 *, H. A. Pearson 2, J. C. Nelson 1, R.
D. Levere 1, N. G. Abraham 1
1Department of Medicine and Anatomy, New York Medical College,
Valhalla, New York
2Department of Medicine, Yale University School of Medicine, New
Haven, Connecticut

*Correspondence to J. D. Lutton, Departments of Medicine and Anatomy,
New York Medical College, Valhalla, NY 10595

Funded by:
National Institute of Arthritis for Diabetes and Digestive Kidney
Diseases; Grant Number: AM 29742
National Institutes of Health; Grant Number: AM 00781

Abstract
Heme metabolism and in vitro erythropoietic growth (CFU-E, BFU-E)
were
examined in bone marrow cells taken from two siblings with apparent
familial hypochromic microcytic anemia. Bone marrow cells from both
patients grew adequate numbers of CFU-E and BFU-E colonies in culture
in the presence of erythropoietin. In addition, small numbers of
endogenous CFU-E were seen in 7-day cultures. Assays on bone marrow
cells taken from both patients revealed that baseline -aminolevulinic
synthase activity was considerably reduced, but increased six to
seven
fold (to normal levels) when patients' cells were exposed to
pyridoxal
phosphate (PLP). In both cases, ferrochelatase and -aminolevulinic
acid dehydratase activities were normal. Bone marrow heme oxygenase
showed no significant differences in activities between normals and
patients values in the absence or presence of PLP. In contrast, heme
synthesis by patients' bone marrow was less than that of normals.
This
study demonstrates that bone marrow cells from patients with this
rare
disorder have some disturbances in heme metabolism, whereas
erythropoiesis appeared to be normal when cultured with adequate
nutrients in vitro.

Keywords
pyridoxal phosphate · B-6 deficiency · hemoglobin · iron
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Received: 30 December 1986; Accepted: 9 July 1987
Digital Object Identifier (DOI)

10.1002/ajh.2830270102  About DOI

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> And this "other substance"  was vitamin C remember .. ?
> WHEN the iron GOT TO A CERTAIN POINT the vitamin C no longer could
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