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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Lupus / June 2008Diabetic Deafness
This should come as no surprise. The first thing they say to look for in sudden hearing loss is excess iron. Iron and diabetes have been closely linked. An NIH clinical trial is recruiting for iron depletion in diabetes. --------------- DGNews Hearing Loss Is Twice as Likely in Adults With Diabetes BETHESDA, Md -- June 18, 2008 -- Hearing loss is about twice as common in adults with diabetes compared to those who do not have the disease, according to a new study. "Hearing loss may be an under-recognised complication of diabetes. As diabetes becomes more common, the disease may become a more significant contributor to hearing loss," said senior author Catherine Cowie, PhD, National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases (NIDDK), who suggested that people with diabetes should consider having their hearing tested. "Our study found a strong and consistent link between hearing impairment and diabetes using a number of different outcomes." The researchers analysed data from hearing tests administered from 1999 to 2004 to participants in the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Half of the 11,405 survey participants aged 20 to 69 were randomly assigned to have their hearing tested, and nearly 90% of them completed the hearing exam and the diabetes questionnaire. "Using the data from the hearing tests, we measured hearing impairment in 8 different ways. Also, participants responded to questions about hearing loss in the questionnaire, which asked whether they had a little trouble hearing, a lot of trouble hearing, or were deaf without a hearing aid," said Dr. Cowie. In addition, 2,259 of the participants who received hearing tests were randomly assigned to have their blood glucose tested after an overnight fast. The researchers discovered the higher rate of hearing loss in those with diabetes after analysing the results of hearing tests given to a nationally representative sample of adults in the United States. The test measured participants' ability to hear low, middle, and high frequency sounds in both ears. The link between diabetes and hearing loss was evident across all frequencies, with a stronger association in the high-frequency range. Mild or greater hearing impairment of low- or mid-frequency sounds in the worse ear was about 21% in 399 adults with diabetes compared with about 9% in 4,741 adults without diabetes. For high-frequency sounds, mild or greater hearing impairment in the worse ear was 54% in those with diabetes compared with 32% in those who did not have the disease. Adults with pre-diabetes, whose blood glucose is higher than normal but not high enough for a diabetes diagnosis, had a 30% higher rate of hearing loss compared to those with normal blood sugar tested after an overnight fast. "This is the first study of a nationally representative sample of working age adults, 20 to 69 years old, and we found an association between diabetes and hearing impairment evident as early as ages 30 to 40," said Dr. Cowie. SOURCE: National Institutes of Health Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Okay, I can do this dance too. Someone with credentials in Otolaryngology suggests that the Sudden Hearing Loss was associated with a subset of patients that had a disturbance of iron metabolism. Big difference from iron excess. Also, these folks don't speculate about cause-and- effect relationships. Be sure to read the article to see what they say about IRON EXCESS. Sun A, Wang Z, Li J. Department of Otolaryngology, Changhai Hospital, Second Military Medical University, Shanghai. Two hundred and eighteen patients with disorders of disturbance of iron metabolism, 215 with hematonosis and 4850 in a normal control group were studied in a prospective with sudden hearing loss and were meanwhile investigated in a retrospective review in order to evaluate the relationship between the disorders of disturbance of iron metabolism and sudden hearing loss. The findings revealed a significantly higher incidence of sudden hearing loss in the cases of disturbance of iron metabolism, than in the patients with hematonosis as well as in the normal control group. Iron deficiency and iron deficiency anemia were found in 60.84% of 429 patients with sudden hearing loss. We concluded that the risk of disturbance of iron metabolism in the cochlea will significantly increase when systemic disturbance of iron metabolism is present although the one does not necessarily indicate the other. It seems that acute disturbance of iron metabolism in cochlea causes sudden hearing loss directly or provides a pathologic basis for the disorder. PMID: 9812800 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE On Jun 19, 12:40 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: > This should come as no surprise. > The first thing they say to look for in sudden hearing loss is excess [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk On Jun 19, 5:46 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:Sudden Hearing Loss was associated with a subset of patients that had a disturbance of iron metabolism. Big difference from iron excess. << Big .. difference .. ? On Jun 19, 5:46 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote: Also, these folks don't speculate about cause-and- effect relationships. << Negativity ..again .. man .. is unsupportive .. On Jun 19, 5:46 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote: Be sure to read the article to see what they say about IRON EXCESS. << "All the people who went deaf are iron deficient" Is that the part you .. gayly .. refer to .. ? Is it .. ? Didn't we JUST have a big long hard .. discussion .. about .. "iron deficiency" .. ? You think Chinese military prisons .. CAN .. diagnose iron ..deficiency .. ? WHEN we just established anyone who says they can is a .. fkg .. liar .. ? You are a really helpful .. guy .. How .. come .. I don't think you are trying to BE .. helpful .. lefty .. ? How .. come .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > Okay, I can do this dance too. > Someone with credentials in Otolaryngology suggests that the [quoted text clipped - 108 lines] > > - Show quoted text - > On Jun 19, 5:46 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:Sudden > Hearing Loss was associated with a subset of patients > that had a disturbance of iron metabolism. Big difference from > iron excess. << > > Big .. difference .. ? cause and effect tom > On Jun 19, 5:46 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote: Also, > these folks don't speculate about cause-and- > effect relationships. << > > Negativity ..again .. man .. is unsupportive .. pointing out the issues is hardly unsupportative - oh! you mean any disagreement whatsoever with your point of view? gosh - that's too bad tom...especially when it happens so often > On Jun 19, 5:46 pm, Michael B <baugh...@bellsouth.net> wrote: Be sure > to read the article to see what they say about IRON EXCESS. << > > "All the people who went deaf are iron deficient" > > Is that the part you .. gayly .. refer to .. ? why tom - are you referring to his light hearted approach? sure hope so...otherwise you would just be expressing bigotry > Is it .. ? let's find out... > Didn't we JUST have a big long hard .. discussion .. about .. "iron > deficiency" .. ? which month and year tom? and which newsgroup? do try to be a bit more precise in your interrogatories... > You think Chinese military prisons .. CAN .. diagnose > iron ..deficiency .. ? all of them? any of them? why single out the chinese? are you bigoted towards them also? > WHEN we just established anyone who says they can is a .. fkg .. > liar .. ? a) you have no right to the plural 'we', b) you haven't established that anyone else agrees with your interpretation of whatever it is that you are referring to c) others with sufficient medical, scientific, or research credentials can of course hold an opinion that differs from yours without being a liar... > You are a really helpful .. guy .. indeed - he often has been and also sometimes a bit controversial - envious of his ability to discuss? > How .. come .. I don't think [correction: change think to 'feel'] you are trying to BE .. helpful .. > lefty .. ? bingo!!! there's that old homophobia peeking out again tommy - is it that you fear something? or is it that you're just a big jerk to think it's funny? sure seems like anyone that you disagree with - sooner or later - gets that label...of course you do have other labels for the women don't you? always alluding to what you imagine they must look like - just what is it that you fear to use those terms so often? perhaps it is just your outward expression of your own self-loathing...calling so many folks the names that you fear apply to yourself? well, whatever the reason - you're just a simple bigot > How .. come .. indeed tom - how come you write those things? > Who loves ya. > Tom [quoted text clipped - 120 lines] > > > > - Show quoted text - long winded whack << DGNews Hearing Loss Is Twice as Likely in Adults With Diabetes BETHESDA, Md -- June 18, 2008 -- Hearing loss is about twice as common in adults with diabetes compared to those who do not have the disease, according to a new study. "Hearing loss may be an under-recognised complication of diabetes. As diabetes becomes more common, the disease may become a more significant contributor to hearing loss," said senior author Catherine Cowie, PhD, National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases (NIDDK), who suggested that people with diabetes should consider having their hearing tested. "Our study found a strong and consistent link between hearing impairment and diabetes using a number of different outcomes." The researchers analysed data from hearing tests administered from 1999 to 2004 to participants in the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Half of the 11,405 survey participants aged 20 to 69 were randomly assigned to have their hearing tested, and nearly 90% of them completed the hearing exam and the diabetes questionnaire. "Using the data from the hearing tests, we measured hearing impairment in 8 different ways. Also, participants responded to questions about hearing loss in the questionnaire, which asked whether they had a little trouble hearing, a lot of trouble hearing, or were deaf without a hearing aid," said Dr. Cowie. In addition, 2,259 of the participants who received hearing tests were randomly assigned to have their blood glucose tested after an overnight fast. The researchers discovered the higher rate of hearing loss in those with diabetes after analysing the results of hearing tests given to a nationally representative sample of adults in the United States. The test measured participants' ability to hear low, middle, and high frequency sounds in both ears. The link between diabetes and hearing loss was evident across all frequencies, with a stronger association in the high-frequency range. Mild or greater hearing impairment of low- or mid-frequency sounds in the worse ear was about 21% in 399 adults with diabetes compared with about 9% in 4,741 adults without diabetes. For high-frequency sounds, mild or greater hearing impairment in the worse ear was 54% in those with diabetes compared with 32% in those who did not have the disease. Adults with pre-diabetes, whose blood glucose is higher than normal but not high enough for a diabetes diagnosis, had a 30% higher rate of hearing loss compared to those with normal blood sugar tested after an overnight fast. "This is the first study of a nationally representative sample of working age adults, 20 to 69 years old, and we found an association between diabetes and hearing impairment evident as early as ages 30 to 40," said Dr. Cowie. SOURCE: National Institutes of Health Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk actually to be a bit more precise, a genetic' condition once again, tom posts a refutation of his core theory. it is always useful when he does so - makes it so much easier for newbies to understand the basic conflict of his positions. just another clear example of effect rather than cause... > Okay, I can do this dance too. > Someone with credentials in Otolaryngology suggests that the [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] > > > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk On Jun 20, 10:57 am, "Paul T. Holland" <pholl...@bellatlantic.net> wrote: long winded whack << DGNews Hearing Loss Is Twice as Likely in Adults With Diabetes BETHESDA, Md -- June 18, 2008 -- Hearing loss is about twice as common in adults with diabetes compared to those who do not have the disease, according to a new study. "Hearing loss may be an under-recognised complication of diabetes. As diabetes becomes more common, the disease may become a more significant contributor to hearing loss," said senior author Catherine Cowie, PhD, National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases (NIDDK), who suggested that people with diabetes should consider having their hearing tested. "Our study found a strong and consistent link between hearing impairment and diabetes using a number of different outcomes." The researchers analysed data from hearing tests administered from 1999 to 2004 to participants in the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES) conducted by the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Half of the 11,405 survey participants aged 20 to 69 were randomly assigned to have their hearing tested, and nearly 90% of them completed the hearing exam and the diabetes questionnaire. "Using the data from the hearing tests, we measured hearing impairment in 8 different ways. Also, participants responded to questions about hearing loss in the questionnaire, which asked whether they had a little trouble hearing, a lot of trouble hearing, or were deaf without a hearing aid," said Dr. Cowie. In addition, 2,259 of the participants who received hearing tests were randomly assigned to have their blood glucose tested after an overnight fast. The researchers discovered the higher rate of hearing loss in those with diabetes after analysing the results of hearing tests given to a nationally representative sample of adults in the United States. The test measured participants' ability to hear low, middle, and high frequency sounds in both ears. The link between diabetes and hearing loss was evident across all frequencies, with a stronger association in the high-frequency range. Mild or greater hearing impairment of low- or mid-frequency sounds in the worse ear was about 21% in 399 adults with diabetes compared with about 9% in 4,741 adults without diabetes. For high-frequency sounds, mild or greater hearing impairment in the worse ear was 54% in those with diabetes compared with 32% in those who did not have the disease. Adults with pre-diabetes, whose blood glucose is higher than normal but not high enough for a diabetes diagnosis, had a 30% higher rate of hearing loss compared to those with normal blood sugar tested after an overnight fast. "This is the first study of a nationally representative sample of working age adults, 20 to 69 years old, and we found an association between diabetes and hearing impairment evident as early as ages 30 to 40," said Dr. Cowie. SOURCE: National Institutes of Health Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > actually to be a bit more precise, a genetic' condition > [quoted text clipped - 116 lines] > > - Show quoted text - On Jun 19, 9:40 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote: excess iron << Am J Med Genet A. 2004 Sep 15;130A(1):22-5. Links Superficial siderosis: a potentially important cause of genetic as well as non-genetic deafness. Dodson KM, Sismanis A, Nance WE. Department of Otolaryngology/Head and Neck Surgery, Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine and Health Sciences, Medical College of Virginia Campus, Richmond, Virginia 23298-0146, USA. kelleydodson@comcast.net Superficial siderosis is an important disease that is increasingly being recognized as a cause of sensorineural hearing loss. Hemosiderin, resulting from repeated episodes of subarachnoid bleeding, is deposited preferentially on the surface of the eighth nerve, cerebellum, and brain stem as a consequence of glial catabolism of ferritin within those structures. This deposition eventually results in destruction and demyelination within the central nervous system, leading to the cardinal clinical findings of superficial siderosis: hearing loss, ataxia, and myelopathy. This mechanism may contribute to the pathogenesis of several forms of genetic deafness, and should be considered as a diagnostic possibility in cases of late onset deafness even in the absence of an overt history of subarachnoid bleeding. Copyright 2004 Wiley-Liss, Inc. PMID: 15368490 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > This should come as no surprise. > The first thing they say to look for in sudden hearing loss is excess [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk |
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