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ironjustice - 18 Jun 2008 07:00 GMT
"Porphyria cutanea tarda should be considered for scleroderma"

Nippon Rinsho. 1995 Jun;53(6):1463-7.Links
[Scleroderma and porphyria cutanea tarda][Article in Japanese]

Tsukazaki N, Okada S, Yoshida H.
Department of Dermatology, Nagasaki University School of Medicine.

Examination was made of sclerodermoid changes in porphyria cutanea
tarda (PCT) and PCT in association with true scleroderma. Although
sclerodermoid change in PCT is rare in Japan, it is important in the
diagnosis of PCT when there are few other clinical signs
characteristic of PCT. In the present case, slight improvement in
cutaneous sclerosis was noted following treatment for PCT, but
pulmonary changes somewhat intensified. The reason for the association
of PCT with progressive systemic sclerosis (PSS) remains obscure.
Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT may possibly increase cutaneous
sclerosis in PSS. A diagnosis of PCT should be considered for patients
presenting scleroderma, since it is difficult to distinguish
sclerodermoid changes from true scleroderma.

PMID: 7616663 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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ironjustice@aol.com - 20 Jun 2008 04:48 GMT
On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
wrote:Porphyria cutanea tarda <<

Just in case anyone is unaware .. porphyria cutanea tarda is iron
overload.

Elevated uroporphyrin due to PCT <<

We also just learned throught the mistaken feeding of fish to mice
that meat causes elevated uroporphyrin.
We also just learned that when the iron is too high the vitamin C in
the body cannot stop the body from having elevated uroporphyrin.

Sooo .. is it the iron overload / porphyria cutanea tarda which is
causing the increased scleroderma in lupus .. ?

Does porphyria cutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common
symptoms .. ?

We know there is a VERY high rate of anemia .. in lupus.

Which we pretty much have established seems to be kinda .. strange ..
due to the fact .. EVERYONE with 'similar' diseases are in FACT ..
all .. iron OVERLOADED.

Sooo ..if one were to disregard this hyperferritinemia in lupus AS..
not to be recognized .. but just the OPPOSITE and USE this iron
overload marker AS an iron overload marker .. and what are you left
with .. ?

EVERY marker now points to iron overload as a LARGE problem in lupus
as opposed to .. "they are all iron deficient" ..

Just the OPPOSITE of what .. 'they'.. TELL you ..

Scary .. but seems to be true .. by using .. logic.

Hyperferritinemia used as a marker shows iron overload in almost all
SLE patients.

The rest .. ?

Seeing the marker they DO use for hyperferritinemia is SOOOOOO ..
high .. then we can pretty much be sure all the rest are over the low
marker ..

Logical .. ?

Yep ..
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ironjustice - 21 Jun 2008 06:16 GMT
On Jun 19, 8:48 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
The reason for the association of PCT with progressive systemic
sclerosis (PSS) remains obscure.  <<

Hmmmm .. another case of iron overload and systemic sclerosis ..
This time with siderosis / another iron overload the deafening
disease.

Systemic sclerosis and superficial siderosis of the central nervous
system: casuality or causality?
Rheumatol Int. 2008 Jun;28(8):815-8. Epub 2008 Jan 12
Simeoni S, Puccetti A, Tinazzi E, Tomelleri G, Corrocher R, Lunardi C.
Department of Clinical and Experimental Medicine, Section of Internal
Medicine, University of Verona, Policlinico GB Rossi, Piazzale LA
Scuro, 37134, Verona, Italy.

We describe the case of a 59 year old man with systemic sclerosis and
superficial siderosis of the central nervous system characterized by
progressive worsening of walking with signs of pyramidal liberation
associated with cerebellar ataxia and bilateral hypoacusia.
Ferritin and oligoclonal bands were found on lumbar puncture and
Magnetic Resonance Imaging of the brain and spinal cord revealed a rim
of hypointensity in T2-weighted images enveloping the surface of brain
and spinal cord, typical of hemosiderosis.
Neurological complications, both central and peripheral, are thought
to be rare and coincidental in systemic sclerosis; however over the
past decade, some authors have reported a high incidence (up to 40%)
of neurological involvement in the disease.
In this report we consider the hypothesis that superficial siderosis
may be a direct complication of systemic sclerosis.
To our knowledge, this case represents the first description of
superficial siderosis in a patient with systemic sclerosis.

PMID: 18193230 [PubMed - in process]

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> On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
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ironjustice - 27 Jun 2008 03:20 GMT
On Jun 19, 8:48 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
wrote:Does porphyria cutanea tarda .. share .. many .. ? ..common
symptoms .. ? <<

"One may conceal the presence of the other"

"ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA"

http://tinyurl.com/4kqpxh
British Journal of Dermatology
Volume 82 Issue 2 Page 118-124, February 1970

To cite this article: G. W. HETHERINGTON, R. L. JETTON, JOH. M KNOX
(1970) THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA
British Journal of Dermatology 82 (2) , 118–124 doi:10.1111/j.
1365-2133.1970.tb15001.x
Abstract
THE ASSOCIATION OF LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS AND PORPHYRIA
G. W. HETHERINGTON11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of
Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A., R. L. JETTON11Department of
Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A. and
JOH. M KNOX11Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of Medicine,
Houston, Texas, U.S.A.1Department of Dermatology, Baylor College of
Medicine, Houston, Texas, U.S.A.
Abstract
SUMMARY.—Two cases of chronic discoid lupus erythematosus associated
with porphyria cutanea tarda are described and the literature on this
association is reviewed.

The coexistence of these 2 conditions may be fortuitous or may be
determined by some unknown mechanism. Since both conditions may
present clinically as photosensitivity, one may conceal the presence
of the other if their possible association is not considered.

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> On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
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ironjustice@aol.com - 05 Jul 2008 14:01 GMT
Porphyria <<

http://www.mcsrr.org/resources/articles/S5.html

Porphyria, Porphyrinuria and Porphyrinopathy
Chemical Injury and Disorders of Porphyrin Metabolism

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> On Jun 19, 8:48 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
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ironjustice@aol.com - 05 Jul 2008 14:18 GMT
On Jul 5, 6:01 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
porphyria <<

This would be my free bisphosphonate again. http://tinyurl.com/54syvt

"Avoid fasting, dieting, and a low carbohydrate intake which can
aggravate symptoms. Symptoms may be reduced by eating a regular diet
of adequate carbohydrates. Complex carbohydrates are best, such as
potatoes and grains (bread, pasta, cereal, etc. made from wheat, corn,
oats, rye, and other grains).

Avoid iron supplements and vitamins containing iron. Also avoid
cookware made with uncoated iron or aluminum, since these metals can
contaminate your food.

Consider having your serum iron tested if you frequently have diarrhea
or loose stools. Low normal is considered better for people with
porphyrin disorders. Another way to reduce iron levels in the body (if
near or above average) is to slowly cut your meat intake."

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ironjustice - 08 Jul 2008 05:57 GMT
On Jul 5, 6:18 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
porphyria <<

Porphyria manifests hemolysis and a marker for this is d-dimer.
ANOTHER marker in lupus which they  .. disregard .. thereby
effectively eliminating a diagnosis OF .. hemolysis.

"D-dimer"

Arthritis Rheum. 2005 Jun 15;53(3):452-9. Links
Thrombosis in systemic lupus erythematosus: congenital and acquired
risk factors.
Afeltra A, Vadacca M, Conti L, Galluzzo S, Mitterhofer AP, Ferri GM,
Del Porto F, Caccavo D, Gandolfo GM, Amoroso A.
University Campus Bio-Medico, Rome, Italy. a.afeltra@unicampus.it

OBJECTIVE:
To investigate the thrombotic tendency in patients with systemic lupus
erythematosus (SLE) by evaluating congenital or acquired abnormalities
associated with an increased risk of venous and/or arterial
thrombosis.
METHODS:
A total of 57 patients with SLE were included in the study.
Twenty-one patients (37%) had a history of arterial and/or venous
thrombosis and 36 patients (63%) did not have such a history.
Sera from 50 healthy controls were examined.
Protein C, protein S, antithrombin, D-dimer, fibrinogen, homocysteine,
anticardiolipin antibodies (aCL), lupus anticoagulant (LAC),
prothrombin G20210A, and methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase (MTHFR)
C677T gene mutation were evaluated.
RESULTS:
Protein C, antithrombin, fibrinogen, D-dimer, and homocysteine levels
were significantly higher in patients with SLE than in controls.
A prothrombin mutation was observed in 2 (4%) of 50 controls and in 6
(11%) of 57 patients.
A significantly higher prevalence (P = 0.036) of MTHFR homozygous
mutation was observed in patients with SLE (14 [25%] of 57) in
comparison with controls (4 [8%] of 50). IgG-aCL and IgM-aCL levels
were significantly higher in patients with SLE than in controls (P <
0.0001).
The presence of medium-high (> or = 20 IgG phospholipid units/ml) IgG-
aCL antibody titers was significantly higher (P = 0.005) in patients
with thrombosis (11 [52%] of 21) than in patients without (5 [14%] of
36) thrombosis.
LAC was present in 22 (38.5%) of 57 patients and in none of 50
controls.
CONCLUSION:
In this study, we confirm the association between thrombosis and IgG-
aCL at medium-high titers and suggest that the coexistence of other
risk factors can affect the expression of thrombosis in patients with
SLE.

PMID: 15934123 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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J Transl Med. 2004 11 9;2 (1):38 15535889 (P,S,E,B) Cited:1
The role of d-dimer as first marker of thrombophilia in women affected
by sterility: implications in pathophysiology and diagnosis of
thrombophilia induced sterility.

[My paper] Di Micco, D'Uva, Strina, Mollo, Amato, Niglio, De Placido
IV Divisione di Medicina Interna e Patologie Epato-Bilio-Metaboliche,
Seconda Università di Napoli, Naples, Italy. pdimicco@libero.it.
BACKGROUND:
D-dimer is considered a marker of hypercoagulable state and of
endogenous fibrinolysis, so increased d-dimer is detectable in
patients affected by thrombosis. Yet, several studies showed that also
infertility, in particular secondary infertility due to recurrent
fetal losses, has been often related to thrombotic events, in
particular in women carrying thrombotic risk factors such as inherited
thrombophilia (MTHFRC677T, PTHRA20210G, Factor V Leiden polimorphisms
and/or inhAfter this screening we selected 39erited protein C, protein
S, AT III deficiency) or acquired thrombophilia (primary
antiphospholipid syndrome, acquired protein C, protein S, AT III
deficiency, drugs induced thrombophilia).
However, because its high predictive negative value in case of
suspected thrombosis, increased d-dimer has been often associated to
subclinical thrombophilia.
The aim of this study is to investigate the role of d-dimer as first
marker of thrombophilia in women affected by unexplained infertility
and subsequently to search the cause of increased d-dimer, such as
inherited and/or acquired thrombophilia.
PATIENTS AND METHODS:
We selected 79 patients with unexplained primary or secondary
infertility.
We excluded 40 patients affected by hydrosalpinx, uterine fibroids,
uterine malformations, endocrinological and immunological diseases,
luteal insufficiency, cytogenetical alterations.
All remaining 39 patients were tested for d-dimer and divided in two
groups: the patients of group A (25 patients) showed increased plasma
d-dimer, in group B were included 14 patients with normal plasma level
of d-dimer.
After this step all 39 patients were screened for MTHFRC677T,
PTHRA20210G, Factor V Leiden polimorphisms, protein C, protein S, AT
III, anticardiolipin IgM and IgG, lupus anticoagulant.
In the control group were included 15 age matched women without
sterility problems referred to our outpatient's section of vascular
medicine for suspected deep venous thrombosis.
Statistical analysis was based on chi2 test, differences were
considered to be significant if p < 0.05.
RESULTS:
D-dimer was increased in 25/39 and 20/25 showed inherited/acquired
thrombophilia while patients with normal d-dimer showed inherited/
acquired thrombophilia in 7/14 (p: < 0.05, s).
DISCUSSION:
D-dimer is a well known marker of hypercoagulable state, in particular
its high predictive negative value in case of suspected thrombosis has
been recognised by several reports.
Yet, increased d-dimer has been identified also for subclinical
thrombophilia besides for vascular thrombosis.
Our data, in fact, for the first time suggest an interesting role of d-
dimer to identify women affected by unexplained primary or secondary
infertility and thrombophilia. So, probably there is a role for d-
dimer in these subjects for its predictive positive value.
Of course, further data on large based population are needed to
confirm our results, because these findings may speed up a diagnostic
screening in these patients also for a good cost/effectiveness of this
test.

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ironjustice - 25 Jun 2008 03:43 GMT
On Jun 19, 8:48 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
wrote:porphyria cutanea tarda <<

I suppose it is mere coincidence the drug used to treat porphyria
cutanea tarda is very useful in lupus?
No iron overload in lupus like in porphyria cutanea tarda?

"Cutaneous symptoms disappeared"

Arch Dermatol. 1980 Oct;116(10):1147-50.Links
Hydroxychloroquine treatment of porphyria cutanea tarda.
Malkinson FD, Levitt L.
Six patients with skin changes and urinary porphyrin excretion
patterns characteristic for porphyria cutanea tarda were treated with
hydroxychloroquine sulfate therapy.
During treatment periods ranging from five to 13 months, cutaneous
symptoms disappeared and urinary porphyrin excretion abnormalities
were completely or almost completely reversed.
In three subjects, hydroxychloroquine therapy was accompanied by
changes in the urinary excretion of iron.
The first four patients, followed up for nine to 24 months after
treatment, all had relapse, and substantial porphyrinuria developed
once more; cutaneous symptoms recurred in two of these.
Three of the four patients were re-treated, and their conditions again
improved or went into remission with hydroxychloroquine therapy.
In two patients, treatment responses were slower than those initially
seen, despite the use of higher drug doses; in the third patient, the
response to re-treatment was more rapid than that seen during the
first treatment course.

PMID: 7425660 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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http://www.aafp.org/afp/980600ap/petri.html

Treatment of Polyarthritis in Patients with Systemic Lupus
Erythematosus

Drug Comment
NSAIDs Avoid gastrotoxic NSAIDs; counter with cytoprotective therapy
Antimalarials Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) is the antimalarial drug
used most often in the United States; ophthalmologic monitoring is
recommended every six to 12 months
Glucocorticoids Individual joints may benefit from intra-articular
injection of triamcinolone (Aristospan); severe polyarthritis flare-
ups may be treated with intravenous "pulse therapy" consisting of
1,000 mg of methylprednisolone (Solumedrol) daily for three days; use
of prednisone for maintenance therapy should be limited to 10 mg or
less daily
Immunosuppressive
drugs Methotrexate (Rheumatrex) or azathioprine (Imuran) can be used
as steroid-sparing drugs; methotrexate cannot be used during
pregnancy

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NSAIDs=nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs.

Antimalarial agents, especially hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil), are
frequently used in the treatment of polyarthritis. Hydroxychloroquine
is very safe; only 1 percent of patients using it develop retinopathy.
Retinopathy as a result of hydroxychloroquine use is usually
reversible when the drug is discontinued.

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> On Jun 17, 11:00 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
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ironjustice - 25 Jun 2008 04:09 GMT
On Jun 24, 7:43 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
wrote:Plaquenil <<

Anyone care to venture a guess why phlebotomy / bloodletting isn't
used in lupus or arthritis when a drug that is an "alternative to
bloodletting" .. IS .. readily prescribed .. ?

Plaquenil - Plaquenil Side Effects - Plaquenil
Information ...Hydroxychloroquine has been beneficial for a high
percentage of patients with rheumatoid arthritis and lupus
erythematosus, especially chronic discoid lupus ...

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hydroxychloroquine should be the preferred alternative to phlebotomy
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A comparative trial of desferrioxamine and hydroxychloroquine for
treatment of porphyria cutanea tarda in alcoholic patients.
Photodermatol. 1984 Dec;1(6):286-92. Links
Marchesi L, Di Padova C, Cainelli T, Reseghetti A, Di Padova F,
Rovagnati P, Cantoni L.
Forty male alcoholic patients with porphyria cutanea tarda (PCT) were
randomly assigned to 2 groups of 20.
The 1st group received desferrioxamine (30 mg/kg body weight/day
for 1 week every 3 months) whereas the latter was given
hydroxychloroquine (200 mg twice/wk orally).
Alcohol abstinence was advised for all patients.
Improvement of cutaneous signs was evident after 6 months in
hydroxychloroquine- treated subjects and after 12 months in
desferrioxamine-treated subjects.
At the end of the 1-year clinical trial, significant decreases of
serum iron
and ferritin were found in all patients, irrespective of the therapy.
Urinary total porphyrins were reduced significantly in both groups,
but the drop was significantly more evident in hydroxychloroquine-
than
in desferrioxamine-treated subjects.
After 1 year of therapy, 4 desferrioxamine-treated patients
vs 16 hydroxychloroquine-treated subjects acquired a normal urinary
porphyrin pattern.
These results indicate that hydroxychloroquine is
more effective than desferrioxamine in inducing clinical and
biochemical remission of PCT.
Accordingly, hydroxychloroquine should be the preferred alternative
to phlebotomy, if the latter is contraindicated.

PMID: 6398430 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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