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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Lupus / February 2008IBS & Lupus?
I am experiencing the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome. Mainly unbelievable gas production! The problem seems to have increased after my increase of mycophinilate dosage to 3 grams per day. (Which has been very beneficial) Now it seems I have answered my own question except for the fact different foods seem to increase the reaction. "Beano" helps plus Lomitol plus antacids, plus , plus. It would be nice to have a more natural solution than the intake of more & more meds each day. Has anyone else experienced this and if so can you make any suggestions? George >I am experiencing the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome. Mainly >unbelievable gas production! The problem seems to have increased after my [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > George Hi George, Yes I have this problem. Mainly horrible dryness(from Sjogren's syndrome?) But gas production like you would not believe. It is due to some kind of food, my bowel has become sensitive. When I do a full cleansing (three doses of Fleet Phosphosoda), I feel so much better, and then I stay on a liquid diet for a while. When I added food back into my diet, I seemed to be sensitive to eggs, chicken and garlic. Those are incredibly ubiquitous products. But when I leave them alone, I fair a lot better. Perhaps you could try the same? I'm not a doctor, and this is just a suggestion...perhaps talk with your doctor first. Mair [ >I seemed to >be sensitive to eggs, chicken Ah, but which came first?  SignatureAndy Taylor [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society; Chair, N E Lupus Group]. Visit <URL:http://www.austrianphilately.com> or <URL:http://www.northeastlupus. org.uk> for the obvious; Andystuff on <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> > [ >>I seemed to >>be sensitive to eggs, chicken > > Ah, but which came first? LOL! I knew that someone would pick up on this, I'm glad it was you :-D I do think that there may be some connection between the offending agents in the chicken and the eggs. The garlic? Well that's easy...garlic was used to ward off... what was it werewolves... vampires? I am both, being a lupie (wolf) and a phlebotomist (vampire). Let's see, can you make a smart remark to anything here? :-) Mair > I do think that there may be some connection between the offending agents in > the chicken and the eggs. The garlic? Well that's easy...garlic was used > to ward off... what was it werewolves... vampires? Vampires. European vampires, that is. Werewolves are repelled by wolfbane, silver and Brylcreem. > I am both, being a lupie (wolf) and a phlebotomist (vampire). No, you can't be a vampire unless you think that the four major food groups are called Type O, Type A, Type B and Type AB. --Bill Thompson In message <93d98d6c-a67b-4609-b75d-2375a49ec96f@28g2000hsw.googlegroups.com>, "wrthomps@ix.netcom.com" <wrthomps06@gmail.com> wrote [ >No, you can't be a vampire unless you think that the four major >food groups are called Type O, Type A, Type B and Type AB. There are only two food groups - under proof, and over proof. SignatureAndy Taylor [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society; Chair, N E Lupus Group]. Visit <URL:http://www.austrianphilately.com> or <URL:http://www.northeastlupus. org.uk> for the obvious; Andystuff on <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> "Mair" wrote: > I do think that there may be some connection between the offending agents > in > the chicken and the eggs. The garlic? Well that's easy...garlic was used > to ward off... what was it werewolves... vampires? Vampires. European vampires, that is. Werewolves are repelled by wolfbane, silver and Brylcreem. > I am both, being a lupie (wolf) and a phlebotomist (vampire). No, you can't be a vampire unless you think that the four major food groups are called Type O, Type A, Type B and Type AB. Brylcreem. Whew! Then I've been protected all along... The four food groups: I am watching my weight, so when I go to the Vampire Bar, I always order Blood Lite. (A-, naturally). Keep it up, Andy, you are a worthy opponent... :o) Mary [ >Brylcreem. Whew! Then I've been protected all along... Ah, then you must have hair. Brylcreemed fuzz is less effective. SignatureAndy Taylor [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society; Chair, N E Lupus Group]. Visit <URL:http://www.austrianphilately.com> or <URL:http://www.northeastlupus. org.uk> for the obvious; Andystuff on <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> >> [ >>>I seemed to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I do think that there may be some connection between the offending agents in >the chicken and the eggs. The garlic? I'd suspect sulphur (or if you wish sulfur) compounds. Not ferrous sulphate, though... SignatureAndy Taylor [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society; Chair, N E Lupus Group]. Visit <URL:http://www.austrianphilately.com> or <URL:http://www.northeastlupus. org.uk> for the obvious; Andystuff on <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> >>> [ >>>>I seemed to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I'd suspect sulphur (or if you wish sulfur) compounds. Not ferrous > sulphate, though... Oh no, NOT ferrous sulphate. Not ferrous anything... that might have anything to do with our dear friend Ferrous Fuckwit! >>> [ >>>>I seemed to [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I'd suspect sulphur (or if you wish sulfur) compounds. Not ferrous > sulphate, though... RE Sulphur: You know, I did think of the sulphur, as eggs are a natural hellhole of sulpur, but it doesn't explain the others. I am curious as to where chickens get all that sulphur to put into the eggs, though... and a chicken will pop out those eggs on a daily basis!? But I am actually thinking of something a bit more sinister... something like DDT, or Estrogen. I have been found to be *extremely* sensitive to estrogen of any kind... and both eggs and chicken have been known to contain this, that is my semi-educated guess. The garlic remains a mystery... the mysterious garlic.... Mair Z Dotes [ >The garlic remains a mystery... the mysterious garlic.... Go ye unto Wikipedia, enter 'garlic' and read... then follow the link to Diallyl disulfide. Diallyl disulfide (4,5-dithia-1,7-octadiene) is an organosulfur compound found in plants of the genus Allium. Along with diallyl trisulfide and diallyl tetrasulfide it is one of the principal components of the distilled oil of garlic. Sulphur by the bucketfull! SignatureAndy Taylor [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society; Chair, N E Lupus Group]. Visit <URL:http://www.austrianphilately.com> or <URL:http://www.northeastlupus. org.uk> for the obvious; Andystuff on <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> > [ >>The garlic remains a mystery... the mysterious garlic.... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sulphur by the bucketfull! HUM! Andrew, this is most interesting, and I thank you for pointing it out to me. Let me ask thee this: What, prithee is the difference between Sulphur, that raineth upon man like fire and brimstone, and *Sulpha* which doth rain upon unwary Lupus patients in nefarious tablet forms? Go thee hither! Enter the Land of Wikipedia, where I seem constantly to be making left turns, and losing my way instead of finding answers. Or at least giveth me a clue. Mary quite Contrary > Let me ask thee this: What, prithee is the difference between Sulphur, that > raineth upon man like fire and brimstone, and *Sulpha* which doth rain upon > unwary Lupus patients in nefarious tablet forms? Sulfur (or sulphur) is the element; "brimstone" is Middle English for "burning stone," and is just another name for sulfur. Sulfa/sulpha is short for sulfanilamide, which the Merck Index says is short for p-Aminobenzenesulfonamide. The molecular formula is C6H8N2O2S (it's a benzene ring with an NH2 molecule tacked to one side and an SO2NH2 molecule on the opposite side). --Bill Thompson In message <98fbdad0-5a2a-4e84-b22d-420b626428d8@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, >"Mair" wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >--Bill Thompson "Be careful what you ask for" :) (attributed to Confucius and many others, but actually first stated by Pigmet) SignatureAndy Taylor [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society; Chair, N E Lupus Group]. Visit <URL:http://www.austrianphilately.com> or <URL:http://www.northeastlupus. org.uk> for the obvious; Andystuff on <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> > In message > <98fbdad0-5a2a-4e84-b22d-420b626428d8@k2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > (attributed to Confucius and many others, but actually first stated by > Pigmet) I guess Andy and Pigmet have said it all. I don't know what more to ask ( or what kind of answer I might get :-O Mair >>>> [ >>>>>I seemed to [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Mair Z Dotes Not my chicken! She doesn't get any hormones - Bobo is freerange. And for the gas problem, I prefer Gas-X. Candi Well, at least the question provoked some responses! Thanks for the input. I am experimenting with eliminating certain foods but the only true relief I get is from the "Beano" and Lomitol. By the time I find out the last selection didn't work, it is too late. Oh well.. Now to go find me a Mars bar! BTW, you didn't say what size! George >>I am experiencing the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome. Mainly >>unbelievable gas production! The problem seems to have increased after my [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Mair > Well, at least the question provoked some responses! > > Thanks for the input. I am experimenting with eliminating certain foods > but the only true relief I get is from the "Beano" and Lomitol. By the > time I find out the last selection didn't work, it is too late. > Oh well.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beano_%28dietary_supplement%29 Beano was developed in 1990 by Alan Kligerman of AkPharma Inc. after research into gas-causing vegetables that had begun in 1981. Beano is a product containing the enzyme alpha galactosidase, which is derived from the fungus Aspergillus niger. The enzyme works in the digestive tract to break down the complex or branching sugars (polysaccharides and oligosaccharides) in foods such as legumes (beans and peanuts) and cruciferous vegetables (cauliflower, broccoli, cabbage, brussels sprouts, among others). The enzyme breaks those complex sugars into simple sugars, making these foods somewhat more digestible, and the negative feelings that arise as a consequences of eating those foods are said to be less pronounced as a result. The polysaccharides and oligosaccharides found in these foods might otherwise pass through the small intestine unaffected. Once in the large intestine, those sugars may be worked on by intestinal flora, fermenting to produce the gases that cause discomfort. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simethicone Shows long list of products... Simethicone is an anti-foaming agent that reduces the surface tension of gas bubbles, causing them to combine into larger bubbles in the stomach that can be passed more easily by burping.Simethicone does not reduce the quantity of gas in the digestive tract, it only increases the rate at which it exits the body, and is ineffective in the intestine" Simethicone solutions of differing concentration also have industrial applications for reducing foaming in certain chemical processes. It is a mixture of polydimethylsiloxane and silica gel. >>Well, at least the question provoked some responses! >> [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > also have industrial applications for reducing foaming in certain chemical > processes. It is a mixture of polydimethylsiloxane and silica gel. Thanks J, I have noticed no help from Simethicone. I haven't found anything except time that solves the gas problem after it develops, excepting Lomotol. George > I am experiencing the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome. Mainly > unbelievable gas production! The problem seems to have increased after > my increase of mycophinilate dosage to 3 grams per day. (Which has been > very beneficial) > Now it seems I have answered my own question except for the fact > different foods seem to increase the reaction. "Beano" helps plus > Lomitol plus antacids, plus , plus. It would be nice to have a more > natural solution than the intake of more & more meds each day. > Has anyone else experienced this and if so can you make any suggestions? My nephew and I have the same problem with IBS. What works for both of us is to not eat a large amount of food at one sitting. --Bill Thompson George Parton wrote: > I am experiencing the symptoms of irritable bowel syndrome. Mainly > unbelievable gas production! The problem seems to have increased after > my increase of mycophinilate dosage to 3 grams per day. (Which has been > very beneficial) > Now it seems I have answered my own question except for the fact > different foods seem to increase the reaction. "Beano" helps plus > Lomitol plus antacids, plus , plus. It would be nice to have a more > natural solution than the intake of more & more meds each day. > Has anyone else experienced this and if so can you make any suggestions? My nephew and I have the same problem with IBS. What works for both of us is to not eat a large amount of food at one sitting. That has been suggested to me for other reasons as well (blood sugar, weight control), but it is so easy to "fall off the wagon" in this regard. I live alone, and so get immersed in some activity and have forgotten to eat! I have been told that one is only supposed to eat an amount of food that is the size of your fist. (No, Andy, I am not going to eat my own fist, okay?) Mair [] > I >have been told that one is only supposed to eat an amount of food that is >the size of your fist. > >(No, Andy, I am not going to eat my own fist, okay?) S'okay - I have big hands... SignatureAndy Taylor [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society; Chair, N E Lupus Group]. Visit <URL:http://www.austrianphilately.com> or <URL:http://www.northeastlupus. org.uk> for the obvious; Andystuff on <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> > [] >> I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> > S'okay - I have big hands... have you ever tried to fit your fist inside your mouth? I used to be able to do this as a kid. Certainly not a crowd-pleaser, I would think. One day I put my hand in my mouth and almost could not get it out! Well, eventually I did, I am not typing with one of those weird one-hand typing gizmos. Why did I write all this... it is pure flatulence... inanity... rubbish >> [] >>> I [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >did, I am not typing with one of those weird one-hand typing gizmos. Why >did I write all this... it is pure flatulence... inanity... rubbish But can - or could - you put a Mars bar in, sideways? SignatureAndy Taylor [Editor, Austrian Philatelic Society; Chair, N E Lupus Group]. Visit <URL:http://www.austrianphilately.com> or <URL:http://www.northeastlupus. org.uk> for the obvious; Andystuff on <URL:http://www.kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> >>> [] >>>> I [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> > But can - or could - you put a Mars bar in, sideways? I think it's too late to tell now. Why, could you do that? Could you thence somehow eat it that way? Or is it one of those "let it melt in your mouth" phenomena? Pigmet says he can do it! Mair Oh, another good gas reliever is alfalfa tea and rooibos tea (rooibos is Afrikans for red bush - I have a friend from South Africa), believe it or not. And they both taste lots better than Gas-X & Beano. Although...I can't say I've ever tried Beano. Candi >>>> [] >>>>> I [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Mair How is it you can drink 'alfalfa' tea? Lupies aren't supposed to have alfalfa at all ! never mind in tea !! just curious as I get really ill from any sprouts of any kind but specifically alfalfa !! hugs, Shelagh "Candi Bowen" wrote in message: Oh, another good gas reliever is alfalfa tea |
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