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ironjustice - 02 Jan 2008 14:35 GMT
"The anti-inflammatory properties of bisphosphonates give the
rationale for the use of these compounds"

Since phytate found in your foods has been shown to be a
"crystallization inhibitor" compared to bisphosphonate another ..
"crystallization inhibitor" .. then one might dedeuce .. phytate to be
a .. bisphosphonate .. a natural bisphosphonate.
Phytate is found in the brown of your grain and in plants to a lesser
extent.

Summary
Expert Opinion on Pharmacotherapy
January 2005, Vol. 6, No. 1, Pages 35-43
(doi:10.1517/14656566.6.1.35)

Bisphosphonates as anti-inflammatory agents in ankylosing spondylitis
and spondylarthropathies
Éric Toussirot‌, Daniel Wendling‌
University Hospital Jean Minjoz Bd Fleming, Department of
Rheumatology, F-25030 Besançon, Cédex, France. eric.toussirot@ufc-
chu.univ-fcomte.fr

NSAIDs remain the cornerstone of the treatment of ankylosing
spondylitis (AS) and spondylarthropathies (SpA), and have been
successfully used for a long time in these diseases. However, some
patients remain refractory or intolerant to NSAIDs and new effective
treatments have recently emerged, namely TNF-α-blocker agents. Other
therapeutic options targeting the bone, such as bisphosphonates, have
also been tried in refractory AS or SpA patients. The anti-
inflammatory properties of bisphosphonates give the rationale for the
use of these compounds in AS and SpA, and include the inhibition of
antigen presenting cells, the modulation of pro-inflammatory cytokine
generation, and also a decreased bone mass in AS. Open trials using
pamidronate gave favourable results, and one controlled study
comparing the efficacy of pamidronate 10 versus 60mg showed that the
60mg dose was effective in AS. Further studies are required to confirm
these preliminary data and to better determine the optimal regimen
(dosage and rhythm) of administration.

"Etidronate versus Phytate"

I guess this answers the question whether phytate IS .. simply ..  a
bisphosphonate .

"Etidronate belongs to a class of medications called bisphosphonates"

Circulation journal : official journal of the Japanese Circulation
Society
Vol.71, No.7(20070620) pp. 1152-1156
Japanese Circulation Society ISSN:13469843
Bibliography

Effect of Crystallization Inhibitors on Vascular Calcifications
Induced by Vitamin D : A Pilot Study in Sprague-Dawley Rats
Abstract
Background
Pathological calcification in soft tissues (ie, ectopic
calcification)
can have severe
consequences.
Hydroxyapatite is the common mineral phase present in all tissue
calcifications.
In general, the development of tissue calcifications requires a pre-
existing
injury as an inducer (heterogeneous nucleant), whereas further
progression requires the presence of other promoter factors (such as
hypercalcemia and/or hyperphosphatemia) and/or a deficiency in
calcification represser factors (crystallization inhibitors and
cellular defense mechanisms).
The present study investigated the capacity of etidronate (a
bisphosphonate
used in osteoporosis treatment) and phytate (a natural product) to
inhibit vascular
calcification in rats.
Methods and Results Six male Sprague-Dawley rats in each of the 3
treatment groups were
subcutaneously injected with either a placebo (physiological serum
solution), etidronate
(0.825μmol・kg^<-1>・day^<-1>) or phytate (0.825μmol・kg^<-1>・day^<-1>)
for 8 days.
Four days into this regimen, calcinosis was induced by subcutaneous
injections of 500,000 IU/kg
vitamin D at Oh, 24h and 48h.
Ninety-six hours after the final vitamin D injection, the rats were
killed and aortas and their hearts
were removed for histological and calcium analyses.
The data showed that phytate-treated rats had lower levels of aortic
calcium than placebo-treated rats.
All groups had similar heart calcium levels.
Conclusions
The present study found that phytate acted as a vascular
calcification
inhibitor.
Thus, the action of polyphosphates could be important in protecting
against vascular
calcification.

Grases Felix 1 Sanchis Pilar 2 Perello Joan 3 Isern Bernat 4 Prieto
Rafel M. 5 Fernandez-Palomeque Carlos 6 Torres Jose J 7
1Laboratory of Renal Lithiasis Research, University Institute of
Health Sciences Research (IUNICS), University of Balearic Islands
2Laboratory of Renal Lithiasis Research, University Institute of
Health Sciences Research (IUNICS), University of Balearic Islands
3Laboratory of Renal Lithiasis Research, University Institute of
Health Sciences Research (IUNICS), University of Balearic Islands
4Laboratory of Renal Lithiasis Research, University Institute of
Health Sciences Research (IUNICS), University of Balearic Islands
5Laboratory of Renal Lithiasis Research, University Institute of
Health Sciences Research (IUNICS), University of Balearic Islands
6University Hospital Son Dureta 7University Hospital Son Dureta
Keyword Crystallization inhibitors Etidronate Phytate Vascular
calcification Vitamin D

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If bisphosphonate works so well and phytate / phytic acid / chaff of
grain .. IS .. a bisphosphonate / http://tinyurl.com/2pczbp.. then a
buckwheat pancake would be .. indicated?

http://tinyurl.com/2rxqnf

"In buckwheat and spelt wheat a considerable content (about 1% or
more) of phytic acid ( myoinositol phosphate) can be found."

Sooo .. since a pill of bisphosphonate is 200 mg .. then if one
calculates .. that would be what .. ? .. 100 grams of grain would
give
you one gram of phytate / phytic acid .. sooo .. one would need three
quarters of an ounce of wheat grain around twenty grams give or take
a
few grams .. ?

Jeez .. that would be pretty easy .. a bowl of .. barley soup or a
bowl of Red River Cereal .. ?

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ironjustice - 02 Jan 2008 15:01 GMT
On Jan 2, 6:35 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
wrote:Sooo .. since a
pill of bisphosphonate is 200 mg .. then if one calculates .. that
would be what .. ? ..
100 grams of grain would giveyou one gram of phytate / phytic acid ..
sooo ..
one would need threequarters of an ounce of wheat grain around twenty
grams
give or take a few grams .. ?
Jeez .. that would be pretty easy .. a bowl of .. barley soup or a
bowl of Red River Cereal <<

Red River Cereal 48oz. Box

Description: This famed hot cereal with the delightful nutty flavour
originated in Manitoba's storied Red River Valley.  SAVE - Buy in
Bulk: -- none --2 pack-$16.95(8.48ea)4 pack-$31.95(7.99ea)9 pack-
$64.95(7.22ea)
Our Price: $8.95

Sooo .. nine bucks for 48 oz gives us five ounces for a buck.
Now there is about 30 grams in an ounce so we et 150 grams of grain
for a buck. There is 1 percent phytate in grain so we get one and a
half grams of phytate for a buck .. and the HIGHEST dose of
bisphosphonate is 200 mg for six bucks.
So for one buck of Red River Cereal we get the equivalent of about
seven times six bucks.
Anyone good with .. math .. ?

One dollar versus forty two dollars.

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> rationale for the use of these compounds"
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ironjustice - 02 Jan 2008 15:05 GMT
On Jan 2, 6:35 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
wrote:Sooo .. since a
pill of bisphosphonate is 200 mg .. then if one calculates .. that
would be what .. ? ..
100 grams of grain would giveyou one gram of phytate / phytic acid ..
sooo ..
one would need threequarters of an ounce of wheat grain around twenty
grams
give or take a few grams .. ?
Jeez .. that would be pretty easy .. a bowl of .. barley soup or a
bowl of Red River Cereal <<

Red River Cereal 48oz. Box

Description: This famed hot cereal with the delightful nutty flavour
originated in Manitoba's storied Red River Valley.  SAVE - Buy in
Bulk: -- none --2 pack-$16.95(8.48ea)4 pack-$31.95(7.99ea)9 pack-
$64.95(7.22ea)
Our Price: $8.95

Sooo .. nine bucks for 48 oz gives us five ounces for a buck.
Now there is about 30 grams in an ounce so we et 150 grams of grain
for a buck. There is 1 percent phytate in grain so we get one and a
half grams of phytate for a buck .. and the HIGHEST dose of
bisphosphonate is 200 mg for six bucks.
So for one buck of Red River Cereal we get the equivalent of about
seven times six bucks.
Anyone good with .. math .. ?

One dollar versus forty two dollars.

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ironjustice - 02 Jan 2008 22:08 GMT
On Jan 2, 7:01 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
bisphosphonates One dollar versus forty two dollars. <<

http://tinyurl.com/3ngso

In these reactions iron plays an important role suggesting that the
selective
in vitro antioxidant properties of the bisphosphonates are due to
their iron
chelating characteristics.

PMID: 14741688 [PubMed - in process]
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http://tinyurl.com/2ev5sd
Alendronate therapy cost $11,600 per quality-adjusted life-year

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/help/default.asp?page=24280

What bisphosphonates are
Bisphosphonates are drugs used to slow down or prevent bone damage.
You may hear them described simply as ’bone hardening’ or ‘bone
strengthening’ treatment.  Doctors often use bisphosphonates to treat
the bone thinning disease osteoporosis, but some cancers can also
cause bone pain and weakness.  These are often cancers that have
started in another part of the body and have spread to the bone
(secondary bone cancer).

Your doctors may prescribe bisphosphonates to

Prevent or control bone thinning (osteoporosis)
Reduce the risk of bones breaking
Reduce the level of calcium in your blood
Reduce pain
It has been suggested that bisphosphonates may even slow down or stop
the development of secondary bone cancers.  But evidence from more
clinical studies is needed to know if this is true, and whether
bisphosphonate drugs have any effect on survival.

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20000501/2731.html

Etidronate (Didronel) First generation 400 mg for 2 weeks every 3
months Labeled in Canada and Europe but not in the United States Few
adverse events

Alendronate (Fosamax) N-containing
Second generation 10 mg per day
5 mg per day Treatment and prevention of PMO and GIO Esophagitis/upper
GI events

Tiludronate (Skelid) S-containing 40 mg per day Treatment of Paget's
disease No effect on fracture risk

Risedronate (Actonel) N-containing
Second generation 5 mg per day Labeling is pending GI side effects
similar to placebo

Pamidronate (Aredia) N-containing
Second generation 40 to 80 mg IV every 4 months Hypercalcemia of
malignancy
Not labeled for treatment of osteoporosis Some systemic effects with
IV therapy; none with oral therapy

Ibandronate Second generation 1 mg IV every 3 months Not labeled by
FDA; still in phase III trials Well tolerated

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SABCS: Clodronate Reduces Morbidity Even Among Patients With Breast
Cancer
Relapse

By Charlene Laino

SAN ANTONIO, TX -- December 14, 2004 -- Addition of the
bisphosphonate
clodronate to standard adjuvant breast cancer therapy reduces
morbidity and
mortality, even among patients who relapse, a retrospective analysis
of a
randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled study of patients with
primary
operable Stage I-III breast cancer.

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ironjustice - 02 Jan 2008 22:37 GMT
On Jan 2, 2:05 pm, ironjustice <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
wrote:properties of the bisphosphonates are due to
their iron chelating characteristics <<

One might think with the lack of healthcare and the VERY high
incidence of cancer .. there might EASILY be found / rounded up a
study group to test the efficacy of a .. free .. bisphsphonate .. ?

There must be plenty of people with cancer who cannot afford the
12,000 bucks .. ?

You'd .. think ..

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ironjustice - 02 Jan 2008 23:54 GMT
On Jan 2, 6:35 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com>
wrote:"The anti-inflammatory properties of bisphosphonates give the
rationale for the use of these compounds" <<

"Inhibition of 63.0%. "

Dietary corn germ containing phytic acid prevents pork meat lipid
oxidation while maintaining normal animal growth performance

Ana Paula R. Harbacha, Mara C.R. da Costab, Adriana L. Soaresa, Ana M.
Bridib, M. Shimokomakia, Caio A. da Silvab and Elza I. Idaa, ,
aGraduate Program in Food Science, Department of Food and Drugs
Technology, Agriculture Science Center, Londrina State University,
P.O. Box 6001, CEP 86051-970 Londrina, PR, Brazil
bDepartment of Animal Sciences, Agricultural Sciences Centre, Londrina
State University, P.O. Box 6001, CEP 86051-970 Londrina, PR, Brazil
Received 22 August 2005;  revised 29 November 2005;  accepted 29
November 2005.  Available online 28 February 2006.

Abstract
The effects of dietary defatted corn germ meal (DCGM) containing
phytic acid (PA) on pig health during development and on its
Longissimus dorsi m. (LD) lipid oxidative stability has been
evaluated. Rations of DCGM were prepared at the level of substitution
of 0%, 10%, 20% and 40% and offered to twenty four animals of Landrace
x Large White crossbreds throughout 25 days before slaughtering.
Animals were sacrificed at an average weight of 91.24 kg (±0.950) and
samples for meat lipid oxidation analysis were taken after seven days
under refrigeration at 3 °C. Animals fed with DCGM did not show any
significant difference, in comparison to the control, in carcass
characteristics, such as cold carcass weight, backfat depth, muscle
depth, lean meat percentage and carcass dress yielding (p  0.05).
Finally, no difference in meat proximate chemical composition was
detected solely arising from lipid oxidation since LD from DCGM-
treated pigs revealed an inhibition of 63.0%.

Keywords: Lipid oxidation; Phytic acid; Corn germ; Pork meat

Corresponding author. Fax: +55 21 43 33714080.

Food Chemistry
Volume 100, Issue 4, 2007, Pages 1630-1633

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> "The anti-inflammatory properties of bisphosphonates give the
> rationale for the use of these compounds"
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> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
 
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