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Beverley - 04 Sep 2007 17:35 GMT
It's quite obvious that no one is around. I guess everyone has jumped ship
and left it to the rats.
Bev
Andy - 04 Sep 2007 18:38 GMT
>It's quite obvious that no one is around. I guess everyone has jumped ship
>and left it to the rats.
>Bev

I'm still here. You can categorise me as you see fit...
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See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

Timothy Luders - 05 Sep 2007 02:47 GMT
> It's quite obvious that no one is around. I guess everyone has jumped ship
> and left it to the rats.
> Bev

I'm still here Bev but rarely post. As to the rats the killfile keeps them
away.

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Timothy

Sherry - 05 Sep 2007 15:19 GMT
I'm still here!  But it is very quiet.  

Hugs,
Sherry
Candi Bowen - 06 Sep 2007 00:16 GMT
I'm here!! I keep checking every day but no one's been around. Maybe just
lurking. Hey everyone, post some news! My kidney biopsy showed stage 2 lupus
nephritis yay! with a significant infarction on the right kidney. All's
peachy!

 Candi

 > It's quite obvious that no one is around. I guess everyone has jumped
ship
 > and left it to the rats.
 > Bev
 >
 >
Timothy Luders - 06 Sep 2007 03:45 GMT
>   I'm here!! I keep checking every day but no one's been around. Maybe just
> lurking. Hey everyone, post some news! My kidney biopsy showed stage 2 lupus
> nephritis yay! with a significant infarction on the right kidney. All's
> peachy!

>   Candi

How much kidney function do you have left, Candi? Have you been treated for
this before now, or are you new to the kidney involvement?

Linda started dialysis about a month ago. That's 7 years later than we
thought it might be so no complaints here. Younger son learned today that
all his blood tests show compatible for donation. He really wants to do
this.

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Timothy

Candi Bowen - 07 Sep 2007 12:27 GMT
Timothy & Sherry, I'm new at this particular game & don't really know much
about the stages yet. The only thing I've changed is limiting my salt
intake, which was low to begin with. And had my BP meds changed so it's now
under control. I didn't realize how dangerous 125/110 was duh. No idea how
much kidney function is left; I'm still waiting for an appt with a
nephrologist, which is taking some time since I don't have insurance.

What kind of dialysis did Linda start? Do you know what stage she was at? My
son's also offered his kidney. I refused until he said he would beat me with
a ballbat & carry me to the hospital, plus he & his wife are working on
their very own personal kidney farm. So if he ever needed one, he could just
'farm' it from one of their kids. I know, I know, we tend towards the sick
with our sense of humor.

Sherry, I'm 51 & thought I had escaped this particular malady, so I never
bothered to learn much about lupus nephritis.

Thanks, everyone!

Candi

>>   I'm here!! I keep checking every day but no one's been around. Maybe
>> just
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> all his blood tests show compatible for donation. He really wants to do
> this.
Beverley - 08 Sep 2007 05:08 GMT
Sorry to hear the results are in. Let us know what the next step will be for
you.
Bev

> Timothy & Sherry, I'm new at this particular game & don't really know much
> about the stages yet. The only thing I've changed is limiting my salt
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> > all his blood tests show compatible for donation. He really wants to do
> > this.
Timothy Luders - 08 Sep 2007 17:49 GMT
> Timothy & Sherry, I'm new at this particular game & don't really know much
> about the stages yet. The only thing I've changed is limiting my salt
> intake, which was low to begin with. And had my BP meds changed so it's now
> under control. I didn't realize how dangerous 125/110 was duh. No idea how
> much kidney function is left; I'm still waiting for an appt with a
> nephrologist, which is taking some time since I don't have insurance.

> What kind of dialysis did Linda start? Do you know what stage she was at? My
> son's also offered his kidney. I refused until he said he would beat me with
> a ballbat & carry me to the hospital, plus he & his wife are working on
> their very own personal kidney farm. So if he ever needed one, he could just
> 'farm' it from one of their kids. I know, I know, we tend towards the sick
> with our sense of humor.

> Sherry, I'm 51 & thought I had escaped this particular malady, so I never
> bothered to learn much about lupus nephritis.

> Thanks, everyone!

> Candi

Can't tell you what stage Linda was/is at. She has had kidney involvement
since 1984 when pregnant with our younger son ( the one that is planning to
donate). Since the summer of 2000 function has been less than 20%, was
under 14% when she started dialysis. Peritoneal Dialysis, 4 times a day at
home and expecting to use a pump system at night soon.

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Timothy

Beverley - 08 Sep 2007 05:11 GMT
Sending good vibes to your family. I'm sorry to hear that Linda started
dialysis. Hope all goes well for your wife and son. It's bad enough to be
worried about your wife under going surgery, but to have your son there, too
has got to be a big concern.
Bev

> >   I'm here!! I keep checking every day but no one's been around. Maybe just
> > lurking. Hey everyone, post some news! My kidney biopsy showed stage 2 lupus
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> all his blood tests show compatible for donation. He really wants to do
> this.
Sherry - 06 Sep 2007 04:14 GMT
Candi,
I have to claim ignorance as I'm not sure what stage 2 Lupus nephritis is
and what you do now.  Could you or someone with Lupus related kidney disease
explain again?

I'm sorry that the results were not negative!!!!

No news here.  Just the same ole same ole stuff.

Hugs,
Sherry
janers - 06 Sep 2007 04:18 GMT
I am here, just lurking as well.

Waiting to see if this lumbar back blocks will work. If not then neurosurgeon time again.  Last
one I had was 98.
This time I have one rupture and then one below is scar tissue with bulging.   JUST my darn
luck. I can't have one year with out having SOME more problems.

crappy.  what ever.

I would post but honestly I thought no one was around

hugs to all
janers
Sherry - 06 Sep 2007 05:32 GMT
Janers, I sure hope and pray that the block works and that it is not more
sugery!

Looks like everyone is probably here but have been quiet. Waiting for
someone else to post. <g>

Hugs,
Sherry
Cindy - 08 Sep 2007 13:37 GMT
Lurking here, but there hasn't really been much to lurk about...I guess that
everyone is busy with....Maybe Life..
Praying for you all that are having problems and those that are not..
As for me...Fibro and Arthritis..same ol same ol...one day I am good 4 I am
not...but that is life..
Dealing with my Bipolar Daughter right now...I think that of all the Mental
illness's you could have..schizophrenzia(sp?) and Bipolar have to be the
worst...I guess those are just the two worse ones I know about because of
having loved ones with them...I know that they are all bad...
She could use some prayers...

> It's quite obvious that no one is around. I guess everyone has jumped ship
> and left it to the rats.
> Bev
Candi Bowen - 08 Sep 2007 22:31 GMT
> Lurking here, but there hasn't really been much to lurk about...I guess
> that everyone is busy with....Maybe Life..
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> because of having loved ones with them...I know that they are all bad...
> She could use some prayers..

Aww Cindy, I'll be praying for you & your daughter. My Mommy Dearest was
dx'd with paranoid schizophrenia when I was 3 yrs old. I lived with a
variety of relatives when she was in/out of the hospital. When I was 17 God
& the angels told her I was possessed & she calmly explained to me that she
had to burn me to save my soul. She had a pyre going in the back yard! She
recovered from that one, but she's still pretty wacked, much more so lately,
with dementia, probably alzheimer's, but the schizo part keeps her secretly
changing docs as soon as she knows they have any inkling as to her bizarre
behavior. Doesn't take long; maybe 3 minutes of conversation. Adult
Protective Services have been no help at all, unless she starts 'wandering
off'. I know it's very tough. You keep reminding yourself that it's a
disease, yet it's so impossibly frustrating to deal with on a daily basis.
My best friend is bipolar but she's been pretty stable for the past few
years. Well, relatively so. Her manic episodes are getting fewer as the
years pass by. God, that's so hard for you to deal with. Sorry.

Candi
Beverley - 09 Sep 2007 05:11 GMT
How horrible. I've got a good friend who grew up in almost the same
situation, but she had no idea what was wrong with her mom until she was in
her late teens.
Bev

> > Lurking here, but there hasn't really been much to lurk about...I guess
> > that everyone is busy with....Maybe Life..
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>
> Candi
Shelagh - 08 Oct 2007 01:40 GMT
I am here too!
I was just lurking cause no time lately to post and feeling so tired and so darn sore too!!
Oh but I had a great visit with my daughter and grandson for a whole week!
FUN!!
Being a nana is way more fun than being a mommy ... lol!
Also I have CKD stage 2  Candi.... not life altering so far except for the fluid build up!!
My bp is under control cause also have a 'stiff heart' ... also called diastolic dysfunction... Apparently going hand in hand with my kidney function <or lack thereof> <g>!!
I just am so darn tired... all the time!! even sleeping 12 hours at night!! still tired in the am!!
Go figure!!!
I don't know what else can go wrong cause lupus, which for me had been in a remission for the past few years is now awake and attacking my liver functions! meaning bruising all over in a uniform pattern out of the blue and feeling nauseated instead of hungry... makes a good weight loss plan <g> ... but it is rare for lupus to do this and so unexpected! My CRP was wonky as were all my liver tests (ie: PT INR SGOT ALT ALS ... etc!!)
I had such a good 'run' without the illness affecting my every day so I shouldn't complain
.... it is the damage it left in it's wake apparently that caused the heart and kidney problems I have right now too....
and then poof! out of my nice remission and back with active lupus and the painful joints and all.... so very sick of it... just in time for my grandson too!!
How untimely can it be?!
I am sure there are people with worse though.... so I'll shut up again and lurk some more!
Good luck with treatment Candi... not much they can do except for immuno-suppressives and diuretics as well as diet changes.... like 'salt'.... no more of that!
It can change too and improve; also ESRD is unlikely with lupus 'they say' as transplants are possible if you are not in active illness.... keep us updated!
hugs,
Shelagh

 "Cindy" <Cindyl57nospam@nospamcox.net> wrote in message
 news:3IwEi.87365$Mu5.60310@newsfe15.phx...
 > Lurking here, but there hasn't really been much to lurk about...I guess
 > that everyone is busy with....Maybe Life..
 > Praying for you all that are having problems and those that are not..
 > As for me...Fibro and Arthritis..same ol same ol...one day I am good 4 I
 > am not...but that is life..
 > Dealing with my Bipolar Daughter right now...I think that of all the
 > Mental illness's you could have..schizophrenzia(sp?) and Bipolar have to
 > be the worst...I guess those are just the two worse ones I know about
 > because of having loved ones with them...I know that they are all bad...
 > She could use some prayers..

 Aww Cindy, I'll be praying for you & your daughter. My Mommy Dearest was
 dx'd with paranoid schizophrenia when I was 3 yrs old. I lived with a
 variety of relatives when she was in/out of the hospital. When I was 17 God
 & the angels told her I was possessed & she calmly explained to me that she
 had to burn me to save my soul. She had a pyre going in the back yard! She
 recovered from that one, but she's still pretty wacked, much more so lately,
 with dementia, probably alzheimer's, but the schizo part keeps her secretly
 changing docs as soon as she knows they have any inkling as to her bizarre
 behavior. Doesn't take long; maybe 3 minutes of conversation. Adult
 Protective Services have been no help at all, unless she starts 'wandering
 off'. I know it's very tough. You keep reminding yourself that it's a
 disease, yet it's so impossibly frustrating to deal with on a daily basis.
 My best friend is bipolar but she's been pretty stable for the past few
 years. Well, relatively so. Her manic episodes are getting fewer as the
 years pass by. God, that's so hard for you to deal with. Sorry.

 Candi
Mair - 09 Oct 2007 16:45 GMT
Aww She,

I am so sorry you are out of your remission.  That stinks. I can relate to your level of fatigue.  I feel the way you feel now--all the time.  I tell people that fatigue is my worst symptom but they don't get it.  I sleep 10-12 hours every night, I still have to take "breaks" in between doing things, and then have a nap in the middle of the day.  Before I was diagnosed (even after, by those who were clueless) this fatigue became a moral issue, as in "Get off your A$$ and do something for once."  If your body is that tired, it needs the rest, although why am I telling you, you practically wrote the book on lupus,

Love to you

Mair
 I am here too!
 I was just lurking cause no time lately to post and feeling so tired and so darn sore too!!
 Oh but I had a great visit with my daughter and grandson for a whole week!
 FUN!!
 Being a nana is way more fun than being a mommy ... lol!
 Also I have CKD stage 2  Candi.... not life altering so far except for the fluid build up!!
 My bp is under control cause also have a 'stiff heart' ... also called diastolic dysfunction... Apparently going hand in hand with my kidney function <or lack thereof> <g>!!
 I just am so darn tired... all the time!! even sleeping 12 hours at night!! still tired in the am!!
 Go figure!!!
 I don't know what else can go wrong cause lupus, which for me had been in a remission for the past few years is now awake and attacking my liver functions! meaning bruising all over in a uniform pattern out of the blue and feeling nauseated instead of hungry... makes a good weight loss plan <g> ... but it is rare for lupus to do this and so unexpected! My CRP was wonky as were all my liver tests (ie: PT INR SGOT ALT ALS ... etc!!)
 I had such a good 'run' without the illness affecting my every day so I shouldn't complain
 .... it is the damage it left in it's wake apparently that caused the heart and kidney problems I have right now too....
 and then poof! out of my nice remission and back with active lupus and the painful joints and all.... so very sick of it... just in time for my grandson too!!
 How untimely can it be?!
 I am sure there are people with worse though.... so I'll shut up again and lurk some more!
 Good luck with treatment Candi... not much they can do except for immuno-suppressives and diuretics as well as diet changes.... like 'salt'.... no more of that!
 It can change too and improve; also ESRD is unlikely with lupus 'they say' as transplants are possible if you are not in active illness.... keep us updated!
 hugs,
 Shelagh
   "Candi Bowen" <reenbow@neo.rr.com> wrote in message news:46e31c12$0$6456$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...

   "Cindy" <Cindyl57nospam@nospamcox.net> wrote in message
   news:3IwEi.87365$Mu5.60310@newsfe15.phx...
   > Lurking here, but there hasn't really been much to lurk about...I guess
   > that everyone is busy with....Maybe Life..
   > Praying for you all that are having problems and those that are not..
   > As for me...Fibro and Arthritis..same ol same ol...one day I am good 4 I
   > am not...but that is life..
   > Dealing with my Bipolar Daughter right now...I think that of all the
   > Mental illness's you could have..schizophrenzia(sp?) and Bipolar have to
   > be the worst...I guess those are just the two worse ones I know about
   > because of having loved ones with them...I know that they are all bad...
   > She could use some prayers..

   Aww Cindy, I'll be praying for you & your daughter. My Mommy Dearest was
   dx'd with paranoid schizophrenia when I was 3 yrs old. I lived with a
   variety of relatives when she was in/out of the hospital. When I was 17 God
   & the angels told her I was possessed & she calmly explained to me that she
   had to burn me to save my soul. She had a pyre going in the back yard! She
   recovered from that one, but she's still pretty wacked, much more so lately,
   with dementia, probably alzheimer's, but the schizo part keeps her secretly
   changing docs as soon as she knows they have any inkling as to her bizarre
   behavior. Doesn't take long; maybe 3 minutes of conversation. Adult
   Protective Services have been no help at all, unless she starts 'wandering
   off'. I know it's very tough. You keep reminding yourself that it's a
   disease, yet it's so impossibly frustrating to deal with on a daily basis.
   My best friend is bipolar but she's been pretty stable for the past few
   years. Well, relatively so. Her manic episodes are getting fewer as the
   years pass by. God, that's so hard for you to deal with. Sorry.

   Candi
Shelagh - 09 Oct 2007 19:37 GMT
:P
thanx Mair!
sweet of you to relate and nice to know I have company with this misery <g>!
not that I would wish it on you.... ;) .... Never!!
Sleep is just not the answer is it?!
I think it is highly over rated cause it sure doesn't touch lupus fatigue!
jmo....fwiw!
my love back at you,
Signature

hugs,
Shelagh
http://clik.to/lupus

 Aww She,

 I am so sorry you are out of your remission.  That stinks. I can relate to your level of fatigue.  I feel the way you feel now--all the time.  I tell people that fatigue is my worst symptom but they don't get it.  I sleep 10-12 hours every night, I still have to take "breaks" in between doing things, and then have a nap in the middle of the day.  Before I was diagnosed (even after, by those who were clueless) this fatigue became a moral issue, as in "Get off your A$$ and do something for once."  If your body is that tired, it needs the rest, although why am I telling you, you practically wrote the book on lupus,

 Love to you

 Mair
Mair - 15 Oct 2007 22:06 GMT
Unfortunately, I think prednisone is the only answer I can think of.  After taking it this past year and then having gained back all the weight I had struggled to lose, I have tapered down to my normal 7.5 mg.  The fatigue does come and go... and I see things that i would really like to do, and if someone drags me along, they think I am not wanting to be there, when actually it is so nice to be out, but my body disagrees.  Sometimes it is worth going out anyway!

I went to the gem and crystal faire at the Sonoma County fair grounds this Saturday.  I wasn't quite up to 'focusing' on each piece, but after a while got into the swing of things.  I has a good time and stayed for two hours and then walked home.  I walke because the fairgrounds is practially across the street from my house.  It is monday, and I am still recuperating from Saturday.  Still you gotta live your life.... eh?

Love to all of you

Mair
 :P
 thanx Mair!
 sweet of you to relate and nice to know I have company with this misery <g>!
 not that I would wish it on you.... ;) .... Never!!
 Sleep is just not the answer is it?!
 I think it is highly over rated cause it sure doesn't touch lupus fatigue!
 jmo....fwiw!
 my love back at you,
 --
 hugs,
 Shelagh
 http://clik.to/lupus

   "Mair" <no-spam-baby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:8mNOi.1249$Pv2.398@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
   Aww She,

   I am so sorry you are out of your remission.  That stinks. I can relate to your level of fatigue.  I feel the way you feel now--all the time.  I tell people that fatigue is my worst symptom but they don't get it.  I sleep 10-12 hours every night, I still have to take "breaks" in between doing things, and then have a nap in the middle of the day.  Before I was diagnosed (even after, by those who were clueless) this fatigue became a moral issue, as in "Get off your A$$ and do something for once."  If your body is that tired, it needs the rest, although why am I telling you, you practically wrote the book on lupus,

   Love to you

   Mair
Sherry - 09 Sep 2007 02:08 GMT
Cindy,
Consider it done!  I have friends who are dealing with their "adult"
children who refuse to take their medicine...at times a nightmare for them
all.
My thoughts and prayers go out to you too!

Hugs,
Sherry
Cindy - 09 Sep 2007 03:41 GMT
Thank you...I know that it is an illness, and I can deal with that...but
sometimes it seems like she doesn't have a clue about trying to help
herself. A few months ago she ended up in the State Mental Health Hospital
for a few days as they were trying to get her on the right meds. Since then
she has been going to the doctor like she is suppose to...And taking the
meds..But I knew they were not working. Of course she was feeling better,
but I could tell she was becoming more and more manic. I kept telling her
the meds aren't working...But when you are manic...And not feeling
down...You get such a feeling of Eurphoria...So you go in to denial about
the meds...She crashed on Wed...A trip out to the clinic with new meds
again...And these made her a zombie..She is adjusting to them so that she
can function, so maybe this is a good sign.

Candi, I can not imagine your life as a young child dealing with that...Of
course now that you are an adult and  you know it is an illness you can
learn to accept it. But as a small child...It had to have been
scarey...Bless your heart and your Mom's too...
I had a cousin who was schizophrenic and she ran the gauntlet of paranoia to
depression...
I don't think she was ever violent, but she did become so paranoid that she
wouldn't leave the house or eat anything, because she thought someone was
going to kill her..She lost down to about 100 lbs...
It was awful...Another time she wouldn't go out of the house without wearing
a disguise because the FBI was after her...
She died a year ago with a brain tumor...So sad...
I have to say  That Schizophrenia has to be the very worst...Many many hugs
a prayers for you Candi...

> Lurking here, but there hasn't really been much to lurk about...I guess
> that everyone is busy with....Maybe Life..
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>> and left it to the rats.
>> Bev
Beverley - 09 Sep 2007 05:08 GMT
Sending good vibes to you and your daughter. I know it must be very
difficult for you and for her.
(((((HUGS)))))
Bev

> Lurking here, but there hasn't really been much to lurk about...I guess that
> everyone is busy with....Maybe Life..
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> > and left it to the rats.
> > Bev
Candi Bowen - 09 Sep 2007 22:46 GMT
Cindy, if you're up to a really sick but realistic laugh, check out
alt.support.schizophrenia. I think I mentioned my family's sometimes wacked
sense of humor that we use as a coping mechanism . . . sometimes it helps us
to deal with reality. Puts things into perspective, I think. There's a big
difference between 'regular' schizophrenia & 'paranoid' schizophrenia. The
latter is what a large part of serial killers have. As impossible as it is
to deal with, thank God your daughter is bipolar & not something worse.
Still, I've always wondered if my mom has lupus & has the delusional
problems that can be associated with it, but as much as I've pressed her to
be tested, it's never happened. Praying for you & yours.

Candi

> Lurking here, but there hasn't really been much to lurk about...I guess
> that everyone is busy with....Maybe Life..
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> and left it to the rats.
>> Bev
 
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