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janers - 10 May 2007 14:03 GMT
Ok, got question for all you smarty pants LOL  :)

The new energy efficient bulbs we should use in our lamps at home are money
saving.   MY question is, are these bulbs harmful to those of us that have
problem with florecent light?  I realize they are only 4 watt and we were
going to buy some, then noticed that FLUORESCENT on the package.

What do you think?  I am talking about the end table lights that usually
have to read by aside your recliners, while watching tv!

I have flurorescent bulbs in my bath rooms and kitchen but they are covered
with large plastic covers and I have never had trouble.  Although I am very
sun sensitive.

Ok, who has some answers on UVA or UVB hazards in light bulbs!!

thanks much and good morning
janers
William R  Thompson - 10 May 2007 14:39 GMT
> Ok, got question for all you smarty pants LOL  :)

Smart pants?  Isn't that what you get when Hugh Hefner enters the field of
AI?

> The new energy efficient bulbs we should use in our lamps at home are
> money
> saving.   MY question is, are these bulbs harmful to those of us that have
> problem with florecent light?  I realize they are only 4 watt and we were
> going to buy some, then noticed that FLUORESCENT on the package.

Do you have the brand name?  I've found one site

http://members.misty.com/don/uvbulb.html

which says 4 watt fluorescent bulbs will produce a lot of UV, but I can't
tell if this is the sort of bulb you mean.

--Bill Thompson
janers - 10 May 2007 14:46 GMT
OK FOLKS>  I contacted the LFA and here is there answer.  NO Energy lights
for me!!!
I answered my own question.  OPPS!!!

Thank you for your inquiry.

The UV emission from Fluorescent lighting has been known to produce
flares in lupus patients that are sensitive to it.  Very few studies
have been done on this however.  It is recommended that if you are
sensitive to UV lighting that you avoid fluorescent lighting in your
house hold or get covers for the lighting.  This is easier for the tubes
than the bulbs.

The next issue of the lupus now magazine is doing a piece on this in the
Ask the Expert section.  So keep a look out for that issue.

There is no difference in the UVA emission of the CFL and the old tubes
lights.  If you are sensitive to them you should replace them with the
halogen bulbs or try to find a cover for them.

Dawn E Isherwood  RN
Health Educator
Lupus Foundation of America, Inc.
2000 L Street, N.W., Suite 710
Washington, DC 20036
Email: Isherwood@lupus.org
Direct Dial:  (202) 349-1151
Fax:  (202) 349-1156

The above lupus health education information is provided with the
understanding that the Foundation is not engaged in rendering medical
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for any particular usage, application or process.
KCat - 11 May 2007 15:23 GMT
> OK FOLKS>  I contacted the LFA and here is there answer.  NO Energy lights
> for me!!!
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> house hold or get covers for the lighting.  This is easier for the tubes
> than the bulbs.

my rheumy's waiting room is covered with those energy efficient
bulbs.  Most of the time these days I have to wait only a few minutes
to see her. But early on I would be out there for 30 mins and by the
time I got back to the exam room (covered tube fluorescents) my temp
would have gone from my normal (97.3 or so) to achy level (99 or
greater.)  If I sit in the exam room too long, even though they're
covered, i tend to worsen.  By the time I leave, I'm exhausted.  Some
of that is emotional I'm sure because we go over everything.  I was
very happy when I saw that our new house didn't have fluorescent
lights in the kitchen. Saving energy and cost is great, but saving my
day and my sanity is a bit more of a priority, IMO.

We have them in our closets but how often does one go sit or stand in
their closet?  Unless you're a shoe addict - then I can't help you. :)
Linda - 11 May 2007 15:32 GMT
I see that someone else has the same trouble as I do when going to the
dr and the lights.

This new dr I went too (Not a rummie, pc dr for my bp) said that I was
nuts..that those light don't hurt you cause there cover...that is when
my hubby just in and said ...Now are you in her body...well then you
don't know what brother her and what don't. So don't tell her she is
nuts.

I don't have any of those kind of lights in the house, but for me if I
sit under any kind of light bubls I get sick...we sit around the house
with white xmas lights on and when I sit down to eat I have to wear a
hat and long sleeve if we have to turn on the over head light.

The sun now that another story I am so bad with the sun that we put
sunscreen film on all of the widow and we found sunscreen screen and put
them on all the widow...make it kind of dark in here but at least I can
have my curtin open to see out side. Help with the heat in the house
too.

Oh I wrote a book sorry...

Linda
KCat - 13 May 2007 01:30 GMT
> I see that someone else has the same trouble as I do when going to the
> dr and the lights.
>
> This new dr I went too (Not a rummie, pc dr for my bp) said that I was
> nuts..that those light don't hurt you cause there cover...that is when

Hi Linda.

Yeah - that's bull!  I had a friend who started out like I did with
this d*** disease.  Very "mild" symptoms.  Fatigue, joint pain, a few
rashes.  She worked for the USPS.  Within about 3 years she was
extremely ill with CNS lupus and bless her heart I don't know where
she's at with the disease except that she was having a lot of trouble
with treatment.

Anwyay - we held our monthy support group meetings at the nearest
hospital and the room had *covered* fluorescent lighting.  I was
always exhausted when I left but I assumed it was the emotions of the
meetings. Some of it probably was.  She would come in looking normal.
By the end of the meeting her face and neck would be beet red from
sitting under those lights.  Those covers just do not completely block
the UVA and the UVA is the one that gives us the most problem.  UVB is
what does the overt damage (sunburn) but UVA is sneaky stuff and it is
a lupie's biggest enemy because it's very hard to block. Sunblocks are
not even required to evaluate how much UVA they block. When you see an
SPF, that is in terms of the UVB blockage.  So you can't be positive
about how much UVA is being blocked.

I have had some problems with incandescent lighting as well.  I get a
sunburned" feeling if I'm under a strong lamp for too long.  And you
can forget halogen lights - those can literally sunburn you and give
off a great deal of infra-red (heat) light.

For me the best thing I've found is to use 40 watt or less
incandescents if I have to have a bedside lamp but preferably - LEDs.
Unfortunately, LED lamps are very expensive so I've yet to spend the
money on one.  They give off no infrared or UV and stay cool.  They're
not practical for lighting a room obviously because the "light pool"
is quite small.  But they're good for desk lamps if you can  find them
for a decent price.

For a while I had problems with computer monitors but that was in the
early and mid 90s.  New monitors give off much less UV and an LCD
monitor is obviously better.  That's what I use now on my 'net PC.  My
work PC is still a CRT and I do have to take breaks from it.  The UV
output is very small but I am like you in that I am extremely
sensitive.

so - ignore that doc on this one.  There are so many that think that
because it's not in the books or because it only happens to a small
percentage of patients, it's not real.  They're wrong.

KCat
Andy - 11 May 2007 16:22 GMT
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>We have them in our closets but how often does one go sit or stand in
>their closet?  Unless you're a shoe addict - then I can't help you. :)

Where do you keep the pens?
Signature

Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group]
See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

Sherry - 11 May 2007 18:11 GMT
> [
>>
>>We have them in our closets but how often does one go sit or stand in
>>their closet?  Unless you're a shoe addict - then I can't help you. :)
>>
> Where do you keep the pens?

obviously not in the closet!
KCat - 13 May 2007 01:18 GMT
> In article <1178893423.469067.66...@q75g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, KCat
> <kca...@gmail.com> wrote
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> Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group]
> Seehttp://www.northeastlupus.org.ukfor more!

Hmph!  Thanks Andy and Sherry!

The pens have their own room!  Well, half a room.  My "craft room" is
devoted to stitching and pens.  I have an old cabinet and hutch from
my grandmother and the cabinet part is full to the brim with ink, pen
parts, pen repair supplies, more ink, calligraphy pens, etc.  The tall
bookcase (that I want to replace someday) is crammed (no exaggeration)
with paper.  Notepads, journals, looseleaf, paper for artsy stuff,
more noteapds and more journals.  And I actually ordered more notepads
Thursday.  Just 3.  :)  I keep a stock of Black n' Red notebooks for
my journals. A4 size.  I do a lot of journal writing. :)  On my craft
table is a cutting pad, a small box containing tiny bottles of my most-
used inks, a lovely paperweight from hubby, and reference books (style
books, dictionary,etc.)  But mostly when I sit at that desk I am
refilling pens.  :)

KCat
Ruth Tay - 11 May 2007 21:51 GMT
Hi Janers........ We thought halogen lights were harmful so we are
avoiding.  We are stocking up on carbon based lights.  As it is
I do not go outside except after the sun sets  from now until
November.  Every time I do its flare time.  Last trip was to
Santa Rosa   2 1/2 hours  one way  in a window treated car
and lying down in the back seat and  have had a flare for
last six weeks.  It may be breaking the law not to use the
fluorescent  lighting but  that is another law that can not
be used universally.  Thanks to you and the whole group
for all the information             ruth

> OK FOLKS>  I contacted the LFA and here is there answer.  NO Energy lights
> for me!!!
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> limited to implied or express warranties of merchantability or fitness
> for any particular usage, application or process.
William R  Thompson - 12 May 2007 07:07 GMT
> Hi Janers........ We thought halogen lights were harmful so we are
> avoiding.  We are stocking up on carbon based lights.

Instead of stocking up on incandescent bulbs, why not bite the
bullet and go in for LED bulbs?  You'll spend about the same money
and you won't have the problem of stockpiling a huge amount of bulbs
(not to mention what happens if you have an accident with all those
stored bulbs).

Some of the LED bulbs are supposed to be about as good as
incandescent bulbs.  I haven't found anything which says that
they produce UV light, and in theory their output should be
visible light.  The 150-LED bulbs are supposed to be as good
as a 70 watt incandescent bulb.  Other bulbs are good as
reading lamps, spotlights and night lights.  I don't know if
they're available in local hardware stores, but I googled "LED"
and  "bulb" and came up with a lot of sites which sell them.

This site has a brief introduction to LED bulbs,
along with an assortment of bulbs and a $50 sample pack:

http://www.donsgreenstore.com/

Here are some more places to look for LED bulbs:

http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/08/150-led-bulb-uses-9w-costs-65/

http://www.ccrane.com/lights/led-light-bulbs/index.aspx

http://www.theledlight.com/120-VAC-LEDbulbs.html

http://www.thinkgeek.com/clearance/7aa8/

http://www.x-tremegeek.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?productID=11880&ta=detail_
img&pi=Y&st=3


http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?productID=14026&sk=MC51419

--Bill Thompson
KCat - 13 May 2007 01:32 GMT
On May 12, 1:07 am, "William R  Thompson" <wrtho...@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:
> > Hi Janers........ We thought halogen lights were harmful so we are
> > avoiding.  We are stocking up on carbon based lights.
>
> Instead of stocking up on incandescent bulbs, why not bite the
> bullet and go in for LED bulbs?  
(snipped great info)

> --Bill Thompson

oops - I should have read ahead. Thanks for the great info, Bill.  I
hadn't done a search in a long time.  Looks like a lot more LED stuff
on the market than as little as a year ago.
Nicole - 17 May 2007 15:52 GMT
I haven't had any problems and I have 'em thru out my house.  In fact, I
love them because they don't produce heat unlike the regular light bulb.
I used to push the lamp by my bed away from me since it was so hot.... and
now I don't have to.

The price has really come down and many more shapes are available too.
Hope they work for you!
Nicole

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> Ok, got question for all you smarty pants LOL  :)
>
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> thanks much and good morning
> janers
 
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