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Lecithin cures and prevents dry eye syndrome.
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ironjustice - 09 Mar 2007 07:12 GMT http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/850503/your_life_health_news/index.html?sour ce=r_health
Your LIFE: HEALTH NEWS By MADELEINE BAILEY
Soya eases sore eyes
SOYA lecithin, an ingredient found in margarine, has been found to cure and prevent dry eye syndrome.
This condition affects up to four million people in the UK and is caused by ageing, contact lenses, central heating, air conditioning and staring at computer screens. Eyes become dry and sore and if not treated their surface layer could end up damaged.
Soya lecithin helps stop the eyes' moisture from evaporating. In a clinical trial of 382 people, 89 per cent of sufferers reported an improvement.
(c) 2007 Daily Mirror.
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Neil Brooks - 09 Mar 2007 08:06 GMT > http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/850503/your_life_health_news/inde... > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > SOYA lecithin, an ingredient found in margarine, has been found to > cure and prevent dry eye syndrome. Hey, Tom....
Can you ... by any chance ... do any better than "Madeleine Bailey -- whoever she is -- says ....?"
Like ... IF it was "found to cure and prevent" (which it wasn't), can we see some evidence of that?
If not ... then please allow me to introduce you to Otis Brown....
William R Thompson - 09 Mar 2007 11:06 GMT Rusty <teamtanner@hotmail.com> brought tears to our eyes with:
> Soya eases sore eyes Gee, Rusty, why are you wasting your time on this when you should be investigating the death of Captain America? This great American hero has DIED, Rusty! You know why you should dig into this, Rusty? It's because he was killed by IRON MAN! That's right, his soi-disant (not soy-lecithin) ally secretly poisoned our national hero with his IRON EMANATIONS! You knew it all along, didn't you? Tony Stark is really a covert Commie-symp! He's the traitor who provided the IRON that went into the Hammer and Sickle! He's using his guise of a stalwart capitalist to spread IRON! How could you miss that when you've got all his comic books memorized?
You can't ignore this, Rusty! Fox News itself has said that comic books are somewhat realistic--just like you! Come on, Rusty, Fox has told you what to think, so get on the stick!
Bill Thompson
Tunderbar - 09 Mar 2007 15:25 GMT > http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/850503/your_life_health_news/inde... > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Who loves ya. > Tom I don't believe it. Soya lecithin is a sludge left over from making tofu. It is used as a thickener and texturizer for manufactured fake foods.
I know one person who uses only margarine (and not butter) and she suffers from the exact problem that you suggest is supposed to be cleared by margarine.
TC
ironjustice@aol.com - 09 Mar 2007 18:51 GMT >>On Mar 9, 7:25 am, "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote: I don't believe it. <<
http://www.savant-health.com/product_details.aspx?ProductID=220
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Tunderbar - 09 Mar 2007 21:57 GMT On Mar 9, 12:51 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>On Mar 9, 7:25 am, "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk I see, it isn't intended to fix the problem, just manage it, kinda, sorta, possibly. Typical allopathic crap.
TC
William R Thompson - 10 Mar 2007 02:32 GMT After changing his e-mail add'y yet again, Rusty <ironjustice@aol.com> trolled:
> http://www.idiot-health.commie/product_no-real-details.aspx?ProductID=blahblahblah THIS is the best you can do, Rusty? You spam everyone with an ad? This ain't eyewash, it's hogwash! Scram, Rusty! Take your lecithin and say soya-nara!
--Bill Thompson
ironjustice@aol.com - 12 Mar 2007 17:58 GMT >>On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "William R Thompson" <wrtho...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: THIS is the best you can do, Rusty? <<
Hey .. Bill .. it took me about fifteen minutes to pull this .. up ..
Now if you really cared about .. dry eye .. YOU .. might have pulled this up .. instead you .. what .. ?
Whine like some .. btch ..
Heh .. heh ..
http://www.irishpharmacist.ie/ New soya-based dry eye treatment launched A spray treatment for dry eye conditions that uses soya lecithin to mimic the eye’sown lipid layer has been launched in Ireland. Clarymist, which is sprayed on toclosed rather than open eyes, was developed to treat dry eye syndrome, which a 2000 study1 suggested affects 10% of the population. Soya lecithin acts as an analogue to the eye’s lipid layer, which controls the rate of evaporation of tear fluid.The manufacturers say that most dry eye cases are caused by a deficient or disrupted lipid layer, which leads to abnormally fast evaporation of tears and subsequent irritation. Clarymist stabilises this lipid layer,thus sealing in the tears and alleviating the burning, scratching and grittiness associated with dry eye syndrome.By spraying Clarymist on to the closed eyelid, an even distribution of natural oils across the outer surface of the tear film is ensured through blinking action.One of the main reasons the lipid layer is disrupted is because of insufficient blinking, which typically occurs during long hours spent in front of a computeror television.Other contributing factors to dry eyes are dehydration due to central heating and air-conditioning,various prescription drugs and ailments,such as rheumatoid arthritis and diabetes. Contact lens wearers are also prone to dry eye conditions,which may worsen with ageing.Optometrist and senior lecturer in optometry at Aston University, UK, Dr Frank Eperjesi, said: “Clarymist is the first dry eye treatment of its kind and will come as a welcome relief to many sufferers.The extensive clinical research behind it alsoshows its values as a treatment for the causes rather than the symptoms of dry eyes. It is asignificant breakthrough in eye health. ”Clarymist’s RRP is €19.95 for 10ml. Reference1. Albietz J. Prevalence of dry eyesubtypes in clinical optometric practice.Optometry and Vision Science 2000; 77: 357-63
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William R Thompson - 12 Mar 2007 23:59 GMT Rusty <ironjustice@aol.com> lamed:
Hey .. Bill .. it took me about fifteen minutes to pull this .. up ..
Good! That's fifteen minutes of your time that weren't spent trolling and spamming, Rusty, and generally disinforming the world. I think of wasting your time as my good deed for the day.
Now if you really cared about .. dry eye .. YOU .. might have pulled this up .. instead you .. what .. ?
Whine like some .. btch ..
What are you trying to say, Rusty? That I whine like some butch? Yeah, I'm super-macho! No wonder I fascinate you! I'll try not to imagine what you're "pulling up" right now, because you're obviously trying to engage me in cybersex. Gotta disappoint you, Rusty, but I'm straight.
Heh .. heh ..
Ech! I guess you aren't, and now we all know why your keyboard sticks so much under your fingers.
--Bill Thompson
ironjustice@aol.com - 12 Mar 2007 17:26 GMT >>On Mar 9, 8:25 am, "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote: I know one person who uses only margarine (and not butter) and she suffers from the exact problem that you suggest is supposed to be cleared by margarine.
TC-<<
The 'treatment' .. using .. lecithin .. usually uses about three tablespoons of lecithin per day. How much margarine would one have to use to adhere to this .. protocol .. ?
It is the **dose** that makes the difference ..
Much like any 'drug' .. you don't give ENOUGH to **treat** then the .. protocol / treatment is not going to work.
The lecithin is SPECIFICALLY depleted by iron oxidation and this lecithin MUST be replaced and this is accomplished by refilling .. much like being low on oil in your car ..
When the oil light comes on .. putting a pint in isn't going to cut it .. one has to put in at least a quart of oil to .. top UP .. the lost / oxidized oil / lecithin.
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ironjustice - 13 Mar 2007 14:12 GMT http://rosacea.ii.net/news/2005/11/dry-eye-and-linoleic-acid.html
Systemic linoleic and gamma-linolenic acid therapy in dry eye syndrome with an inflammatory component.
Cornea, 2003 Mar;22(2):97-101.
Barabino S, Rolando M, Camicione P, Ravera G, Zanardi S, Giuffrida S, Calabria G. Department of Neurosciences, University of Genoa, via Siccardi 14, 18030 Sanremo, Genoa, Italy.
Abstract: Purpose. To evaluate the efficacy and anti-inflammatory activity of systemic linoleic (LA) and [gamma]-linolenic acid (GLA), which decrease chronic inflammation in rheumatoid arthritis, on the ocular surface of patients with keratoconjunctivitis sicca.
Methods: In a randomized clinical trial, 26 patients with aqueous- deficient keratoconjunctivitis sicca were consecutively selected from patients presenting to Department of Neurosciences, Ophthalmology and Genetics, University of Genoa. The diagnosis was based on dry eye symptom survey score, Schirmer-1 test values, positive vital staining with lissamine green, and fluorescein break-up time (FBUT). All patients had ocular surface inflammation based on HLA-DR expression, a major histocompatibility class II antigen, on epithelial bulbar conjunctiva samples. The subjects were randomly divided into two groups of 13 patients each. The study group received tablets containing LA (28.5 mg) and GLA (15 mg) twice daily for 45 days and used tears; the control group received a tear substitute and a placebo tablet for 45 days.
Results: Statistically significant changes in symptoms (p < 0.005), lissamine green staining (p < 0.005), and ocular surface inflammation (p < 0.05) occurred in the study group compared with controls. HLA-DR expression varied from 58.5 +/- 14.1% positive conjunctival cells to 41.3 +/- 18.9% in the treated group and from 61.4 +/- 21.9% to 58.0 +/- 13.3% in the controls. No statistically significant difference between groups was found for FBUT and the Schirmer-1 test.
Conclusions: Therapy with LA and GLA and tear substitutes reduces ocular surface inflammation and improves dry eye symptoms. Long-term studies are needed to confirm the role of this new therapy for keratoconjunctivitis sicca.
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William R Thompson - 13 Mar 2007 15:21 GMT Rusty <teamtanner@hotmail.com> brought tears to my eyes when he spammed:
(snip of gobbledegook, including a URL which includes an ad)
> Conclusions: Therapy with LA and GLA and tear substitutes reduces > ocular surface inflammation and improves dry eye symptoms. Long-term > studies are needed to confirm the role of this new therapy for > keratoconjunctivitis sicca. Translation: The use of LA and GLA, which anyway have nothing to do with lecithin, make absolutely no difference in the care of dry eyes. The tear substitutes are what made the difference. As to how effective they are, the test which Rusty cited doesn't offer any useful information. In fact the test didn't real say or prove anything worthwhile. That must be why Rusty likes it.
Want to know the world's best source of tears? Read Rusty's twaddle until you laugh so hard, you cry.
--Bill Thompson
ironjustice - 13 Mar 2007 23:33 GMT >>Translation: The use of LA and GLA, which anyway have nothing to do > with lecithin, << Now you noticed how I snipped the rest of your bullsht ..
Don't you ..
What are you doing in these lists ..?
You know nothing of what you speak ..
So .. what .. are you doing here .. ?
Lecihtin contains .. LA .. and GLA is MADE .. **from** .. LA ..
So since you didn't .. obviously .. KNOW the above .. then that means .. ? .. you are stupid ..
I believe I told you that before .. and you keep on evidencing ... it ..
Heh .. heh ..
What a .. maroon ..
http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/pho_0288.shtml
Saturated fatty acids, such as palmitic and stearic, make up 19 to 24% of soya lecithin; the monounsaturated oleic acid contributes 9 to 11%; linoleic acid provides 56 to 60%; and alpha-linolenic acid makes up 6 to 9%.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-linolenic_acid
gamma-Linolenic acid (GLA) is an omega-6 essential fatty acid found primarily in vegetable oils. The human body produces GLA from linoleic acid (LA).
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William R Thompson - 14 Mar 2007 02:30 GMT Unravelling like one of his threads, Rusty <teamtanner@hotmail.com> blathered:
> Now you noticed how I snipped the rest of your bullsht .. "Bullshit," Rusty. You should know how to spell it. It's your specialty. Or haven't you noticed how everyone in real life says it every time you talk?
> What are you doing in these lists ..? Dealing with lupus, and making fun of you and your inanities, Rusty. Now why are you crossposting your off-topic nonsense to ASL?
> So .. what .. are you doing here .. ? You just asked that question, Rusty. How did you forget so soon? Is that foil cap of yours cutting off the circulation to your brain, or do you have some deeper problem?
> I believe I told you that before .. and you keep on evidencing ... it .. You believe you told me what, Rusty? Can't you remember?
> Heh .. heh ..
> What a .. maroon .. Yes, you are.
Now why haven't you noticed that everyone thinks you're an a.shole? Or have you already forgotten that no one agrees with you? It must be the effect of your low-iron diet, addling whatever brains you once had. As proof of this theory, I offer you as evidence.
--Bill Thompson
ironjustice - 14 Mar 2007 02:43 GMT Unravelling like one of his threads, Rusty <teamtan...@hotmail.com> blathered:<<
You see the thread .. ?
Keep your **nutbar** antics somewhere .. else ..
And by the looks of your posting history .. you have BEEN one for quite some .. time ..
Lecithin .. soya lecithin .. **ingestion** AND/ or **topical** application .. of .. soya lecithin .. ALLEVIATES .. dry eye syndrome in .. people .. WITH .. **dry eye syndrome** ..
YOU .. don't like those findings ..
Now why would that .. be .. ?
You must not have dry eye syndrome ..
It is quite .. irritating ..
Much like yourself .. to some .. I suppose ..
Gum .. on .. a .. shoe ..
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William R Thompson - 14 Mar 2007 06:27 GMT Rusty <teamtanner@hotmail.com> trolled:
> You see the thread .. ? There's no thread, little boy. There's just you talking crazy and everyone else making fun of you. As usual.
> Keep your **nutbar** antics somewhere .. else .. Oooh, Rusty, you're using ASTERISKS! Everyone loves it when you get that upset!
> You must not have dry eye syndrome ..
> It is quite .. irritating .. What's this, Rusty? You think it's irritating to NOT have dry eye syndrome? And, hey, you forgot to include a bunch of irrelevant URLs with ads. Wow, you ARE upset! Maybe you should go out and buy yourself a new foil hat. Make it one of the extra-large ones. You can wrap yourself up in it like a baked potato . . . then lie down next to this nice sirloin steak I'm fixing for tomorrow night's barbecue . . . right after we all take our Maxi-Strength Iron Pills.
> Gum .. on .. a .. shoe .. So that's your favorite bubblegum flavor? Or are you saying that you like to put your gums to people's shoes? Not that anyone cares to know what turns you on--certainly not so soon after dinner.
Now come down from the cross, Rusty. We need the wood for tomorrow tonight's barbecue.
--Bill Thompson
Retired Chief - 22 Mar 2007 19:47 GMT On Mar 13, 2:33 pm, numbnutz tom wrote:
> What are you doing in these lists ..? How dare you ask that when you refuse to answer the question?
What disease(s) do you have, other than iron-on-the-brain?
> You know nothing of what you speak .. Looking in the mirror again, I see.
> So .. what .. are you doing here .. ? Rebutting your senseless ramblings.
> Heh .. heh .. Laughing at your own face in the mirror, tom-tom?
> What a .. maroon .. The moron numbnutz can't spell.
> Man Is A Herbivore! Created with incisor and canine teeth to rip apart, chew, and enjoy MEAT>
... Just when I thought numbnuts tom has written the stupidest ... thing ever, he appears again with something more stupid.
grahamew@myway.com - 12 Mar 2007 20:27 GMT > >http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/850503/your_life_health_news/inde... > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > suffers from the exact problem that you suggest is supposed to be > cleared by margarine. It works if you rub it in your eyes.
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