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Lecithin cures and prevents dry eye syndrome.

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ironjustice - 09 Mar 2007 07:12 GMT
http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/850503/your_life_health_news/index.html?sour
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Your LIFE: HEALTH NEWS
By MADELEINE BAILEY

Soya eases sore eyes

SOYA lecithin, an ingredient found in margarine, has been found to
cure and prevent dry eye syndrome.

This condition affects up to four million people in the UK and is
caused by ageing, contact lenses, central heating, air conditioning
and staring at computer screens. Eyes become dry and sore and if not
treated their surface layer could end up damaged.

Soya lecithin helps stop the eyes' moisture from evaporating. In a
clinical trial of 382 people, 89 per cent of sufferers reported an
improvement.

(c) 2007 Daily Mirror.

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Neil Brooks - 09 Mar 2007 08:06 GMT
> http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/850503/your_life_health_news/inde...
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> SOYA lecithin, an ingredient found in margarine, has been found to
> cure and prevent dry eye syndrome.

Hey, Tom....

Can you ... by any chance ... do any better than "Madeleine Bailey --
whoever she is -- says ....?"

Like ... IF it was "found to cure and prevent" (which it wasn't), can
we see some evidence of that?

If not ... then please allow me to introduce you to Otis Brown....
William R  Thompson - 09 Mar 2007 11:06 GMT
Rusty <teamtanner@hotmail.com> brought tears to our eyes with:

> Soya eases sore eyes

Gee, Rusty, why are you wasting your time on this when you should
be investigating the death of Captain America?  This great American
hero has DIED, Rusty!  You know why you should dig into this, Rusty?
It's because he was killed by IRON MAN!  That's right, his soi-disant
(not soy-lecithin) ally secretly poisoned our national hero with his
IRON EMANATIONS! You knew it all along, didn't you?  Tony Stark
is really a covert Commie-symp!  He's the traitor who provided the
IRON that went into the Hammer and Sickle!  He's using his guise
of a stalwart capitalist to spread IRON!  How could you miss that
when you've got all his comic books memorized?

You can't ignore this, Rusty!  Fox News itself has said that comic
books are somewhat realistic--just like you!  Come on, Rusty, Fox
has told you what to think, so get on the stick!

Bill Thompson
Tunderbar - 09 Mar 2007 15:25 GMT
> http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/850503/your_life_health_news/inde...
>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> Who loves ya.
> Tom

I don't believe it. Soya lecithin is a sludge left over from making
tofu. It is used as a thickener and texturizer for manufactured fake
foods.

I know one person who uses only margarine (and not butter) and she
suffers from the exact problem that you suggest is supposed to be
cleared by margarine.

TC
ironjustice@aol.com - 09 Mar 2007 18:51 GMT
>>On Mar 9, 7:25 am, "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't believe it. <<

http://www.savant-health.com/product_details.aspx?ProductID=220

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Tunderbar - 09 Mar 2007 21:57 GMT
On Mar 9, 12:51 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>On Mar 9, 7:25 am, "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

I see, it isn't intended to fix the problem, just manage it, kinda,
sorta, possibly. Typical allopathic crap.

TC
William R  Thompson - 10 Mar 2007 02:32 GMT
After changing his e-mail add'y yet again,  Rusty <ironjustice@aol.com>
trolled:

> http://www.idiot-health.commie/product_no-real-details.aspx?ProductID=blahblahblah

THIS is the best you can do, Rusty?  You spam everyone with an
ad?  This ain't eyewash, it's hogwash!  Scram, Rusty! Take your
lecithin and say soya-nara!

--Bill Thompson
ironjustice@aol.com - 12 Mar 2007 17:58 GMT
>>On Mar 9, 7:32 pm, "William R  Thompson" <wrtho...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
THIS is the best you can do, Rusty?  <<

Hey .. Bill .. it took me about fifteen minutes to pull this .. up ..

Now if you really cared about .. dry eye .. YOU .. might have pulled
this up .. instead you .. what .. ?

Whine like some .. btch ..

Heh .. heh ..

http://www.irishpharmacist.ie/
New soya-based dry eye treatment launched
A spray treatment for dry eye conditions that uses soya lecithin to
mimic the eye’sown lipid layer has been launched in Ireland.
Clarymist, which is sprayed on toclosed rather than open eyes, was
developed to treat dry eye syndrome, which a 2000 study1 suggested
affects 10% of the population.
Soya lecithin acts as an analogue to the eye’s lipid layer, which
controls the rate of evaporation of tear fluid.The manufacturers say
that most dry eye cases are caused by a deficient or disrupted lipid
layer, which leads to abnormally fast evaporation of tears and
subsequent irritation.
Clarymist stabilises this lipid layer,thus sealing in the tears and
alleviating the burning, scratching and grittiness associated with dry
eye syndrome.By spraying Clarymist on to the closed eyelid, an even
distribution of natural oils across the outer surface of the tear film
is ensured through blinking action.One of the main reasons the lipid
layer is disrupted is because of insufficient blinking, which
typically occurs during long hours spent in front of a computeror
television.Other contributing factors to dry eyes are dehydration due
to central heating and air-conditioning,various prescription drugs and
ailments,such as rheumatoid arthritis and diabetes. Contact lens
wearers are also prone to dry eye conditions,which may worsen with
ageing.Optometrist and senior lecturer in optometry at Aston
University, UK, Dr Frank Eperjesi, said: “Clarymist is the first dry
eye treatment of its kind and will come as a welcome relief to many
sufferers.The extensive clinical research behind it alsoshows its
values as a treatment for the causes rather than the symptoms of dry
eyes.
It is asignificant breakthrough in eye health.
”Clarymist’s RRP is €19.95 for 10ml.
Reference1. Albietz J. Prevalence of dry eyesubtypes in clinical
optometric practice.Optometry and Vision Science 2000; 77: 357-63

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William R  Thompson - 12 Mar 2007 23:59 GMT
Rusty <ironjustice@aol.com> lamed:

Hey .. Bill .. it took me about fifteen minutes to pull this .. up ..

Good!  That's fifteen minutes of your time that weren't
spent trolling and spamming, Rusty, and generally disinforming
the world.  I think of wasting your time as my good deed for the day.

Now if you really cared about .. dry eye .. YOU .. might have pulled
this up .. instead you .. what .. ?

Whine like some .. btch ..

What are you trying to say, Rusty? That I whine like some
butch?  Yeah, I'm super-macho!  No wonder I fascinate
you!  I'll try not to imagine what you're "pulling up" right
now, because you're obviously trying to engage me in
cybersex.  Gotta disappoint you, Rusty, but I'm straight.

Heh .. heh ..

Ech!  I guess you aren't, and now we all know why your
keyboard sticks so much under your fingers.

--Bill Thompson
ironjustice@aol.com - 12 Mar 2007 17:26 GMT
>>On Mar 9, 8:25 am, "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote: I know one person who uses only margarine (and not butter) and she
suffers from the exact problem that you suggest is supposed to be
cleared by margarine.

TC-<<

The 'treatment' .. using .. lecithin .. usually uses about three
tablespoons of lecithin per day.
How much margarine would one have to use to adhere to this ..
protocol .. ?

It is the **dose** that makes the difference ..

Much like any 'drug' .. you don't give ENOUGH to **treat** then the ..
protocol / treatment is not going to work.

The lecithin is SPECIFICALLY depleted by iron oxidation and this
lecithin MUST be replaced and this is accomplished by refilling ..
much like being low on oil in your car ..

When the oil light comes on .. putting a pint in isn't going to cut
it .. one has to put in at least a quart of oil to .. top UP .. the
lost / oxidized oil / lecithin.

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ironjustice - 13 Mar 2007 14:12 GMT
http://rosacea.ii.net/news/2005/11/dry-eye-and-linoleic-acid.html

Systemic linoleic and gamma-linolenic acid therapy in dry eye syndrome
with an inflammatory component.

Cornea, 2003 Mar;22(2):97-101.

Barabino S, Rolando M, Camicione P, Ravera G, Zanardi S, Giuffrida S,
Calabria G.
Department of Neurosciences, University of Genoa, via Siccardi 14,
18030 Sanremo, Genoa, Italy.

Abstract: Purpose. To evaluate the efficacy and anti-inflammatory
activity of systemic linoleic (LA) and [gamma]-linolenic acid (GLA),
which decrease chronic inflammation in rheumatoid arthritis, on the
ocular surface of patients with keratoconjunctivitis sicca.

Methods: In a randomized clinical trial, 26 patients with aqueous-
deficient keratoconjunctivitis sicca were consecutively selected from
patients presenting to Department of Neurosciences, Ophthalmology and
Genetics, University of Genoa. The diagnosis was based on dry eye
symptom survey score, Schirmer-1 test values, positive vital staining
with lissamine green, and fluorescein break-up time (FBUT). All
patients had ocular surface inflammation based on HLA-DR expression, a
major histocompatibility class II antigen, on epithelial bulbar
conjunctiva samples. The subjects were randomly divided into two
groups of 13 patients each. The study group received tablets
containing LA (28.5 mg) and GLA (15 mg) twice daily for 45 days and
used tears; the control group received a tear substitute and a placebo
tablet for 45 days.

Results: Statistically significant changes in symptoms (p < 0.005),
lissamine green staining (p < 0.005), and ocular surface inflammation
(p < 0.05) occurred in the study group compared with controls. HLA-DR
expression varied from 58.5 +/- 14.1% positive conjunctival cells to
41.3 +/- 18.9% in the treated group and from 61.4 +/- 21.9% to 58.0
+/- 13.3% in the controls. No statistically significant difference
between groups was found for FBUT and the Schirmer-1 test.

Conclusions: Therapy with LA and GLA and tear substitutes reduces
ocular surface inflammation and improves dry eye symptoms. Long-term
studies are needed to confirm the role of this new therapy for
keratoconjunctivitis sicca.

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William R  Thompson - 13 Mar 2007 15:21 GMT
Rusty <teamtanner@hotmail.com> brought tears to my eyes when he spammed:

(snip of gobbledegook, including a URL which includes an ad)

> Conclusions: Therapy with LA and GLA and tear substitutes reduces
> ocular surface inflammation and improves dry eye symptoms. Long-term
> studies are needed to confirm the role of this new therapy for
> keratoconjunctivitis sicca.

Translation: The use of LA and GLA, which anyway have nothing to do
with lecithin, make absolutely no difference in the care of dry eyes.
The tear substitutes are what made the difference.  As to how effective
they are, the test which Rusty cited doesn't offer any useful information.
In fact the test didn't real say or prove anything worthwhile.
That must be why Rusty likes it.

Want to know the world's best source of tears?  Read Rusty's twaddle
until you laugh so hard, you cry.

--Bill Thompson
ironjustice - 13 Mar 2007 23:33 GMT
>>Translation: The use of LA and GLA, which anyway have nothing to do
> with lecithin, <<

Now you noticed how I snipped the rest of your bullsht ..

Don't you ..

What are you doing in these lists ..?

You know nothing of what you speak ..

So .. what .. are you doing here .. ?

Lecihtin contains .. LA .. and GLA is MADE .. **from** .. LA ..

So since you didn't .. obviously .. KNOW the above .. then that
means .. ? .. you are stupid ..

I believe I told you that before .. and you keep on evidencing ...
it ..

Heh .. heh ..

What a .. maroon ..

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/pho_0288.shtml

Saturated fatty acids, such as palmitic and stearic, make up 19 to 24%
of soya lecithin; the monounsaturated oleic acid contributes 9 to 11%;
linoleic acid provides 56 to 60%; and alpha-linolenic acid makes up 6
to 9%.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-linolenic_acid

gamma-Linolenic acid (GLA) is an omega-6 essential fatty acid found
primarily in vegetable oils.
The human body produces GLA from linoleic acid (LA).

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William R  Thompson - 14 Mar 2007 02:30 GMT
Unravelling like one of his threads, Rusty <teamtanner@hotmail.com>
blathered:

> Now you noticed how I snipped the rest of your bullsht ..

"Bullshit," Rusty.  You should know how to spell it.  It's your specialty.
Or haven't you noticed how everyone in real life says it every time you
talk?

> What are you doing in these lists ..?

Dealing with lupus, and making fun of you and your inanities, Rusty.
Now why are you crossposting your off-topic nonsense to ASL?

> So .. what .. are you doing here .. ?

You just asked that question, Rusty.  How did you forget so soon?
Is that foil cap of yours cutting off the circulation to your brain, or do
you
have some deeper problem?

> I believe I told you that before .. and you keep on evidencing ... it ..

You believe you told me what, Rusty?  Can't you remember?

> Heh .. heh ..

> What a .. maroon ..

Yes, you are.

Now why haven't you noticed that everyone thinks you're an a.shole?
Or have you already forgotten that no one agrees with you?  It must be the
effect of your low-iron diet, addling whatever brains you once had.  As
proof of this theory, I offer you as evidence.

--Bill Thompson
ironjustice - 14 Mar 2007 02:43 GMT
Unravelling like one of his threads, Rusty <teamtan...@hotmail.com>
blathered:<<

You see the thread .. ?

Keep your **nutbar** antics somewhere .. else ..

And by the looks of your posting history .. you have BEEN one for
quite some .. time ..

Lecithin .. soya lecithin  .. **ingestion** AND/ or **topical**
application  .. of .. soya lecithin .. ALLEVIATES .. dry eye syndrome
in .. people ..
WITH .. **dry eye syndrome** ..

YOU .. don't like those findings ..

Now why would that .. be .. ?

You must not have dry eye syndrome ..

It is quite .. irritating ..

Much like yourself .. to some .. I suppose ..

Gum .. on .. a .. shoe ..

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William R  Thompson - 14 Mar 2007 06:27 GMT
Rusty <teamtanner@hotmail.com>  trolled:

> You see the thread .. ?

There's no thread, little boy.  There's just you talking crazy and
everyone else making fun of you.  As usual.

> Keep your **nutbar** antics somewhere .. else ..

Oooh, Rusty, you're using ASTERISKS!
Everyone loves it when you get that upset!

> You must not have dry eye syndrome ..

> It is quite .. irritating ..

What's this, Rusty?  You think it's irritating to NOT have
dry eye syndrome?  And, hey, you forgot to include a bunch
of irrelevant URLs with ads.  Wow, you ARE upset!  Maybe
you should go out and buy yourself a new foil hat.  Make it one
of the extra-large ones.  You can wrap yourself up in it like a
baked potato . . . then lie down next to this nice sirloin steak
I'm fixing for tomorrow night's barbecue . . . right after we all
take our Maxi-Strength Iron Pills.

> Gum .. on .. a .. shoe ..

So that's your favorite bubblegum flavor?  Or are you saying
that you like to put your gums to people's shoes?  Not that
anyone cares to know what turns you on--certainly not so
soon after dinner.

Now come down from the cross, Rusty.  We need
the wood for tomorrow tonight's barbecue.

--Bill Thompson
Retired Chief - 22 Mar 2007 19:47 GMT
On Mar 13, 2:33 pm, numbnutz tom wrote:

> What are you doing in these lists ..?

How dare you ask that when you refuse to answer the question?

What disease(s) do you have, other than iron-on-the-brain?

> You know nothing of what you speak ..

Looking in the mirror again, I see.

> So .. what .. are you doing here .. ?

Rebutting your senseless ramblings.

> Heh .. heh ..

Laughing at your own face in the mirror, tom-tom?

> What a .. maroon ..

The moron numbnutz can't spell.

> Man Is A Herbivore!

Created with incisor and canine teeth to rip apart, chew, and enjoy
MEAT>

... Just when I thought numbnuts tom has written the stupidest
... thing ever, he appears again with something more stupid.
grahamew@myway.com - 12 Mar 2007 20:27 GMT
> >http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/850503/your_life_health_news/inde...
>
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> suffers from the exact problem that you suggest is supposed to be
> cleared by margarine.

It works if you rub it in your eyes.

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>
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