Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Lupus / February 2007
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David - 15 Feb 2007 01:49 GMT Helllo everyone. I'm a 34 year old who has been diagnosed with FSGS. As a twenty-one year old, I was famous for my ability to urinate for long periods of time. However, what once gave me "status" among an admittedly strange group of people eventually led me to a urologist after experiencing pain while urinating. I went through a battery of tests, 24 hours urines and years later a punch biopsy. During my biopsy, attempts to secure a sample were made difficult by what was described to me a "rubbery" kidney. They literally a number of stabs at it, and finally came up with sample that was inconclusive. As a result, I always considered my diagnosis more of an educated guess than a certainty. For years (I was diagnosed at 21), my kidney function remained relatively stable. Without symptoms, I engaged in denial...drinking, smoking, not looking after my diet, etc. Recently, however, I began experiencing pain (albeit very dull pain) while urinating. I also have had repeated attacks of lower back pain. I initially thought this the result of a herniated disk, although I've begun to question that. I sometimes feel pain when my kidney (I should also explain that I was born with only one kidney, or one was absolved during childhood). I have hematuria now and have leaked protein for some time. My levels, at last check, were elevated, but real high. I no longer urinate like I used to, as it appears that my flow is weak and much shorter. Have other people experienced things like this? At my last visit, my doctor mentioned that via x-ray, he thought my kidney was enlarged and saw shadows...I therefore had a CT scan and am awaiting the results. I never thought I'd say this, but I'm hoping of Kidney stones. Has anyone out there been diagnosed with FSGS only to find later on that they have PKD? I'm just trying to learn more, and would like to hear about the experiences of others. Whatever is going on, I've been quite fortunate that I've stayed in relatively good shape for so long, especially considering my behaviors. Now, however, i am worried. I have a feeling that things are getting worse and it's affecting me mentally. Any advice or experiences you could share would be of great help.
Thanks,
David
Mair - 15 Feb 2007 02:32 GMT Dear David What does FSGS stand for? And PKD (Polycystic kidney???)
I am among the lower eschelon of medical caregivers, but I think you would know if you had kidneystones. Especially for a male, this experience can be "exquisite," so I am told.
Do you have any other symptoms of lupus? I like your attitude toward diagnosis... that seems to be a realistic feeling... a dx is an ethereal thing that can (and does) change and evolve, and good docs know this. My rheumie has never told me I have "lupus"--when I ask him he sits down and draws me what is called a Venn diagram: three circles that overlap: one is autoimmune thyroiditis, one is Sjogren's Syndrome and one is Systemic Lupus. That's whas he says. Then he shoves the paper at me and starts fondling my finger joints and the lymph nodes in my neck....
Welcome to our group... no matter what your diagnosis, it is very nice to have men posting to our group.
Wishing you the best of health,
Mary
> Helllo everyone. I'm a 34 year old who has been diagnosed with > FSGS. As a twenty-one year old, I was famous for my ability to [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > David Andy - 15 Feb 2007 10:14 GMT [
> My >rheumie has never told me I have "lupus"--when I ask him he sits down and >draws me what is called a Venn diagram: three circles that overlap: one is >autoimmune thyroiditis, one is Sjogren's Syndrome and one is Systemic Lupus. Yes, but are you in the middle where all three overlap, or in the outer wilderness?
 Signature Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!
Mair - 16 Feb 2007 01:09 GMT Well, in most aspects of my life I would be considered in the outer wilderness, or beyond. But in this case, hon, since I have all three of the maladies he is discussing, I would be right in the middle... where Robin Hood splits the arrow (twangg!!) --M
> [ >> My [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Yes, but are you in the middle where all three overlap, or in the outer > wilderness? Jason Johnson - 15 Feb 2007 05:10 GMT Helllo everyone. I'm a 34 year old who has been diagnosed with FSGS. As a twenty-one year old, I was famous for my ability to urinate for long periods of time. However, what once gave me "status" among an admittedly strange group of people eventually led me to a urologist after experiencing pain while urinating. I went through a battery of tests, 24 hours urines and years later a punch biopsy. During my biopsy, attempts to secure a sample were made difficult by what was described to me a "rubbery" kidney. They literally a number of stabs at it, and finally came up with sample that was inconclusive. As a result, I always considered my diagnosis more of an educated guess than a certainty. For years (I was diagnosed at 21), my kidney function remained relatively stable. Without symptoms, I engaged in denial...drinking, smoking, not looking after my diet, etc. Recently, however, I began experiencing pain (albeit very dull pain) while urinating. I also have had repeated attacks of lower back pain. I initially thought this the result of a herniated disk, although I've begun to question that. I sometimes feel pain when my kidney (I should also explain that I was born with only one kidney, or one was absolved during childhood). I have hematuria now and have leaked protein for some time. My levels, at last check, were elevated, but real high. I no longer urinate like I used to, as it appears that my flow is weak and much shorter. Have other people experienced things like this? At my last visit, my doctor mentioned that via x-ray, he thought my kidney was enlarged and saw shadows...I therefore had a CT scan and am awaiting the results. I never thought I'd say this, but I'm hoping of Kidney stones. Has anyone out there been diagnosed with FSGS only to find later on that they have PKD? I'm just trying to learn more, and would like to hear about the experiences of others. Whatever is going on, I've been quite fortunate that I've stayed in relatively good shape for so long, especially considering my behaviors. Now, however, i am worried. I have a feeling that things are getting worse and it's affecting me mentally. Any advice or experiences you could share would be of great help. Thanks, David
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David, I suggest that you copy and paste your post in these two newsgroups since there are people in those newsgroups that may be able to help you:
alt.support.kidney-failure alt.support.kidney-disease
Also, I suggest that you read this book: "Coping With Kidney Disease" by Mackenzie Walser, M.D.
Kidney stones are discussed on as least three pages of that book. After reading the book, you will know for sure whether or not you have kidney disease. If you do have a kidney disease, Dr. Walser discusses a treatment program that may prevent you from ever needing dialysis. If your creatinine level is above 2.0, that could indicate that you have major kidney problems.
Jason ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mair - 16 Feb 2007 01:31 GMT FSGS.... My Stedman's Abbreviations book tells me that it is "focal segmental glomerulosclerosis." wrap your lips around that puppy. And I was right about PKD--Polycystic Kidney Disease. Wow, dude. That's interesting, but also, like, a real bummer. Especially since your other kidney is absolved. At least we know that it is in heaven. I am not making light of your condition...but what good is it to lose your sense of humor? I had a kidney infection (pyelonephritis), and yeah, my back hurt... that was the first symptom. It felt like muscle spasms in my back, but when my temp kept going higher and higher, they figured kidney, and put me in the hospital with IV fluids and antibiotics.
I can see why you are hoping it is kidney stones. Good luck with the CT scan and let us know how you are doing.
It is hard to be sick with this kind of stuff when you are relatively young. I, along with several others that I know, have had lupus (or whatever illness) since childhood or teen years. You are always welcome here if you need support, no matter what your problem seems to be.
Be well,
Mair
> Helllo everyone. I'm a 34 year old who has been diagnosed with > FSGS. As a twenty-one year old, I was famous for my ability to [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > David SuperLupus@gmail.com - 16 Feb 2007 18:30 GMT > Wow, dude. That's interesting, but also, like, a real bummer. Especially > since your other kidney is absolved. At least we know that it is in heaven. > I am not making light of your condition...but what good is it to lose your > sense of humor? Aww Mair, when I first saw that the kindney was absolved I thought... "Millions of Catholics seek absolution their entire lives. That's one lucky kidney."
So you're not the only one who's twisted sense of humour makes these experiences easier.
Wish I had kidney answers for the orig poster. Just that there are a bunch of us out here and we're always willing to listen.
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