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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Lupus / January 2007

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Random Fluke - 23 Jan 2007 01:46 GMT
Hello folks,

I wanted to say hello to everyone here. I've browsed through many of
the posts and intend to take more time to read them all. I've been a
long time user of usenet, but until a few months ago I spent most of
my time in the binary groups. I'm a male from the midwest, about to
hit my 40s, and like most people I was until two weeks ago one of
those who would say "what?" if someone had mentioned Lupus. To try and
keep the story short (as if that were possible for me) I recently
visited an old love of mine who is most decidedly the one, the one
love that gets indelibly stamped on your soul. It was nearly 10 years
ago when I met her and the memories of her and her two wonderful sons
are my fondest and dearest to my heart. Our relationship was rocky,
never worked itself out, and although I could point to several things
as being the problem, I think ultimately it's simply that she never
felt as deeply for me although she herself thinks about me over the
years.

During my visit she informed me that she has Lupus, and in thinking I
was doing the right thing I didn't ask much about it. She told me very
little and what little she told me didn't make it sound very serious.
I guess I felt that if she wanted to talk to me about it she would. I
realize now what an asinine thing that was to do, not that I should
have pried anything out of her, but I probably appeared as though I
wasn't concerned. The truth is it was on my mind the whole time I was
there. I tried to find the time or way to sneak on her computer and
learn more about it but hadn't found the chance. I'm fairly sure but
not 100% that it's SLE. It wasn't until I got home and started by
reading materials online that I began to understand. I immediately
checked the library and have just checked out The Lupus Book and
tonight I will begin to read. I used to be an avid reader of books but
find I need training wheels for a while, it's hard to concentrate and
absorb at the moment.

What I have learned so far is breaking my heart when I think of the
possibilities of how her quality of life will be, and how this will
affect her sons life as well. Fortunately she has always remained
close to her mother in where she resides as well as close in
relationship. I am able to talk to her mother and will do so soon, and
when I know I have the full picture I'm going to let her know what I
have learned and how I feel. I won't go into that now except to say a
small part of me wants to get up, start packing up my life and making
the thousand or so miles between us go away. I know that this is
unrealistic for more than one reason, but I still love her so much.

There you have it, at this moment, this is me.

In parting, as I said, I wanted to say hello to all the members of
this group. That includes those who are actively posting **and** those
who are not. It's not a provable statistic, but I could venture to
guess that for every one person who regularly posts there a hundred(s)
who do not.

If you are one of those "lurkers" please do not be afraid to reach
out. I can easily see this is group is full of loving souls, and as it
is in any public forum, occasionally salted with a flake, spammer or
other type of pond scum. DO NOT let any self absorbed idiot scare you
off, make you unsubscribe from this group, or prevent you from
reaching out. Realize instead that they are either mentally ill or
simply shallow enough to enjoy tormenting others. They aren't worth
anything more than the consideration that they are sad little people
that will never be complete human beings and leave it at that. DO NOT
let them win the stupid games they will try to make you play. Learn to
ignore the impulse to respond to them and use your browsers kill
filter so that you never see them again. PLEASE.

Be here for *you* or the one you love.

This is *your* life. Right here. Right now.

For the time being I will "lurk" myself, as I know nothing of
consequence and even when I do I am no doctor and will always have
that fact in mind. The only thing I would like to ask the group for at
the moment is some "recommended reading." I am going to purchase The
Lupus Book while I read the library copy and was hoping someone could
recommend other books, or perhaps even some online sites with articles
or a good forum. I intend on reading for myself as well as sending my
love some reading material and would truly appreciate anyone's help.

Thank you, and thank you *all* for being here.

With kindness and love,
                                        Fluke
Mair - 23 Jan 2007 04:11 GMT
Hi Fluke,

You're more than just a Fluke, especially if you are supporting someone with
SLE and don't have it yourself.  In this newsgroup that makes you a
Wonderful Person.  We love our lurkers; it does not matter if a person posts
or not.  When you first start out, you will see a lot of good stuff that
already answers your questions, and you will see questions you did not think
to ask... so lurking can be quite therapeutic!

It does not really matter (as far as our group goes) if her diagnosis is SLE
or not.  There are lots of similar syndromes, and lots of people can find
help here.

I hope it works out for your friend and you... if it is meant to be, and all
the best to her with her condition...

Best Regards,
Mair

> Hello folks,
>
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> With kindness and love,
>                                         Fluke
Random Fluke - 30 Jan 2007 06:47 GMT
>Hi Fluke,
>
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>already answers your questions, and you will see questions you did not think
>to ask... so lurking can be quite therapeutic!

Thank you so very much for the kind words and I have been learning a
lot now that I have read more of the posts here. My initial post here
may have been slightly over the top, the trip I made followed by what
I have learned has been quite a roller coaster ride and I needed some
outlet. I was further driven by one of the first few posts I read here
by a member who was stating they were leaving the group because of
some moron. That kind of situation infuriates me.

>It does not really matter (as far as our group goes) if her diagnosis is SLE
>or not.  There are lots of similar syndromes, and lots of people can find
>help here.
>
>I hope it works out for your friend and you... if it is meant to be, and all
>the best to her with her condition...

Thank you so much for the kind words. I don't think we will ever
ultimately wind up together, but this matters not as I love her,
period. She is my Dulcinea and always will be for the rest of my life.

>Best Regards,
>Mair

And to you as well,
                             Fluke

>> Hello folks,
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>> With kindness and love,
>>                                         Fluke
gazorpf@yahoo.com - 23 Jan 2007 08:53 GMT
Welcome Fluke.

How wonderful that you are taking the time to learn about lupus. May I
also suggest you sign up for email alerts through the Lupus Foundation
of America www.lupus.org.

On March 1 hundreds of lupus patients will descend on Congress for one
on one appointments as part of Lupus Advocacy Day. We will be
explaining the debilitating effects of lupus on our lives and asking
them to support funding for lupus research and education.

You will find advocacy alerts on the LFA website. One can email their
Representative or Senator directly from the site.

There are some wonderful (and some not-so-wonderful) lupus support
groups. You might try one. They are for lupus patients and people who
care about them. Through education and caring, lupus patients support
one another.

One LFA site you will also find archives of presentations from "Lupus
Now: State of the Art Approaches from the Experts." I believe it is the
Northwest Ohio Chapter that has a monthly on line support group. This
month's topic is Cold Weather and Joint Pain. The national website has
information about the next live chat with an expert.

And, of course, please join the LFA and help support research,
education, and advocacy.

Linda
Random Fluke - 30 Jan 2007 06:35 GMT
>Welcome Fluke.
>
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>
>Linda

Linda,

Thank you very much for the info. I have marked the chat date and
intend on being there. She was from the midwest area when we met but
now lives in Tx near the gulf. Fortunately cold weather will be of
little issue for her now  but what I can learn from the chat may be of
more importance in the future.

I've been doing lots of reading and surfing, talk about infomation
overload. Heh. It can be a little tough wrapping my head around all
the medical terms and drug names.

I apologize for taking so long to respond, coming back from my trip
put several things off and I've been playing catch up.

All my best to you,
                            Fluke
Sherry - 23 Jan 2007 15:39 GMT
Welcome to the group.  Maybe you can get your friend hooked up with us too!
Bless you for your concern and efforts to learn what she is dealing with.

Sherry

> Hello folks,
>
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> With kindness and love,
>                                         Fluke
Random Fluke - 30 Jan 2007 06:51 GMT
>Welcome to the group.  Maybe you can get your friend hooked up with us too!
>Bless you for your concern and efforts to learn what she is dealing with.
>
>Sherry

Thank you Sherry, I was trying to get her set up with the newsgroups
but she is borrowing, with permission, a wireless connection from a
neighbor and cannot get access to the groups through the neighbors
account. She probably could if she had the logins, but that requires
the main (master) accounts pw\login info. I don't think she wanted to
ask.

Thank you for your kind words and all the best to you.

Fluke

>> Hello folks,
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>> With kindness and love,
>>                                         Fluke
ChelleSmiles - 23 Jan 2007 17:39 GMT
I can relate to your friend.  A lot of people respond the same way you
initially did, but the fact that it really did weigh on your mind and
that you've taken it upon yourself to become emotionally invested means
a lot.

I have told several friends that I have Lupus and gotten the most
non-concerned and nonchalant responses enough times that I just don't
want to tell anyone anymore because the general impression I get is
that nobody really understands or cares what I have, and they don't
really seem that interested in how I feel or what I'm going through.
That's a hard thing for me tod admit, but it's true.  I'm an upbeat,
positive person, but if I look at things as they really are, my closest
friends don't understand my struggles and have shown little interest in
trying to relate or learn about lupus.

It's priceless and precious for the few people who do try.  The two
people who have shown the most interest and concern in my life are two
people I wouldn't have expected...my ex-husband, and an old
acquaintance from my freshman year of college.

I'd say this to people who have been told by someone they care for that
they have Lupus:  It's okay that you don't know everything about it,
it's okay to show concern, it's okay to ask questions such as, "how
does it make you feel?" and say things like, "I'm so sorry you're going
through this."  And lastly, don't do what one co-worker did to me...he
said, "Oh My!  My Aunt had lupus and she died!"

People have their well-intentioned reasons for not asking
questions...just as we "lupies" have our reasons for not making a big
deal out of it.  It's a big deal to us, but we don't want to be drama
queens or seem like we're bidding for sympathy.  I do have to say that
while I detest having people feel sorry for me, it means the world when
they try to understand and relate and just express that I'm on their
mind.  Also, I enjoy answering questions because so many people know so
little about what I am actually going through, and it gives me the
opportunity to fill in the blanks and keep them from jumping to
conclusions.

Thanks on behalf of your friend and all of us Lupies who could use more
friends who are as involved as you.

Michelle

> Hello folks,
>
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> With kindness and love,
>                                          Fluke
Random Fluke - 30 Jan 2007 13:23 GMT
>I can relate to your friend.  A lot of people respond the same way you
>initially did, but the fact that it really did weigh on your mind and
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>
>Michelle

Hi Michele,

Thank you for everything you've written here, it means a lot to me.
What you've said gives me a really good insight and says quite a bit
about the perspective of a person who is afflicted. It helps a lot to
see things from the other side. Like anything else in life, your
mindset isn't the same when you aren't the one going through things.
I haven't yet had the chance to open a dialog with her about this, but
what you've said here will certainly help me. I wish I could more
actively be there for her, but things are as they are and I'll have to
simply do what I can.

Again thank you, and to you and everyone here I wish you the best.

Fluke

>> Hello folks,
>>
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>> With kindness and love,
>>                                          Fluke
 
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