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Maggie - 13 Nov 2006 23:14 GMT
I know someone that was stung by a bee recently. He didn't know he was
allergic, so when he did get to the ER, they had to aggressively treat
him & in turn may have caused some damage to his heart.  They did a
stress test and EKG and found nothing wrong, but he continues to have
weakness, short breath, racing heart & he was having High BP until they
gave him BP meds.

I'm wondering if the adrenal gland could've been affected with the mega
doses of cortisone they had to give him.  Do any of these symptoms
sound like it could be that?  

Thanks,
Maggie
Sherry - 14 Nov 2006 02:49 GMT
Maggie,
I emailed your question to my nephew.  Can't promise he will answer but if
he does will post it for you.

Hugs,
Sherry

>I know someone that was stung by a bee recently. He didn't know he was
> allergic, so when he did get to the ER, they had to aggressively treat
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> Thanks,
> Maggie
Jason Johnson - 14 Nov 2006 03:16 GMT
I know someone that was stung by a bee recently. He didn't know he was
allergic, so when he did get to the ER, they had to aggressively treat
him & in turn may have caused some damage to his heart.  They did a
stress test and EKG and found nothing wrong, but he continues to have
weakness, short breath, racing heart & he was having High BP until they
gave him BP meds.

I'm wondering if the adrenal gland could've been affected with the mega
doses of cortisone they had to give him.  Do any of these symptoms
sound like it could be that?  

Thanks,
Maggie

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Maggie,
I suggest that you buy this book for your friend.

ADRENAL FATIQUE by James L. Wilson

I read the book but don't remember all of the symptoms of high cortisol levels?

It's my guess that your friend's cortisol levels  will return to normal
after a couple of weeks (when the medication is no longer a factor. I am
not a doctor.

Jason
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Maggie - 14 Nov 2006 21:44 GMT
> Maggie,
> I suggest that you buy this book for your friend.
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> Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thank you, Jason!  This sounds like a book we could all use in our
Lupie library.

Hey, how is your friend/neighbor getting along?  And how are you
dealing with it all?

Maggie
Jason Johnson - 15 Nov 2006 02:54 GMT
Jason Johnson wrote:

> Maggie,
> I suggest that you buy this book for your friend.
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> Jason
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thank you, Jason!  This sounds like a book we could all use in our
Lupie library.

Hey, how is your friend/neighbor getting along?  And how are you
dealing with it all?

Maggie

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Maggie,
No major changes. We are trying to get her to join a Lupus support group
but she does not seem to be interested. We will keep trying. She now has a
self esteem problem. Another neighbor and myself helped her to repair her
plumbing problems. She found reasons to criticize us about a dozen times
per day. Her self esteem is raised to normal levels for several hours
after she criticizes us. She puts us down to raise herself up. The other
neighbor told me today that he will NEVER volunteer to help her on any
other projects. I will continue to help her. My self esteem is strong
enough to withstand her efforts to improve her low self esteem. I doubt
that she even realizes the effect that she is having on her neighbors and
friends. I will stand by her.
Jason

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Maggie - 16 Nov 2006 23:45 GMT
Hi Jason,

I hope she will improve as they lower her off of prednisone or after
she's been off of it for awhile.

There may come a time when you will have to let her know just how much
she is hurting others.  Prednisone changes people and I had to be told
a few things myself.  You're only human and it may be better to have a
serious talk with her about it at some point rather than blowing up
when you've had all you can take.  I think everyone here can empathize
with her as far as mood swings go, but we all have to control our
actions so as not to hurt others too.  Your telling her in a loving and
patient manner will hopefully help her see, but only you know when, how
and if you can do that.

Hang in there! :)

Maggie
Jason Johnson - 17 Nov 2006 01:15 GMT
Hi Jason,

I hope she will improve as they lower her off of prednisone or after
she's been off of it for awhile.

There may come a time when you will have to let her know just how much
she is hurting others.  Prednisone changes people and I had to be told
a few things myself.  You're only human and it may be better to have a
serious talk with her about it at some point rather than blowing up
when you've had all you can take.  I think everyone here can empathize
with her as far as mood swings go, but we all have to control our
actions so as not to hurt others too.  Your telling her in a loving and
patient manner will hopefully help her see, but only you know when, how
and if you can do that.

Hang in there! :)

Maggie

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Maggie,
I will continue to hang in there. I will consider taking your advice. I
will have to find the right moment to tell her the things that she needs
to hear.
She is still in denial about her problems in relation to dealing with her
friends and neighbors.
Jason
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Shelagh - 17 Nov 2006 02:42 GMT
You took the words out of my mouth  'maggitty'<g>!

Really Jason you have a warm heart, but you may be doing this woman more harm than good over the long term.... perhaps she isn't even aware of just how miserable she can be and why .... and maybe if she knew, she would seek counselling and become a happier and more self confident person for the rest of her years?!

Worth saying anyhow and good luck to you with your friendship; sounds like a lot of work to maintain and I am sure is worth it.
IMO every human is worth that kind of time and effort
and kudos to you  for staying the course Jason!
I hope one day, should she 'wake up' -that she also will recognize you in full.
Best wishes,
Shelagh
http://clik.to/lupus

> Hi Jason,
>
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>
> Maggie
Jason Johnson - 17 Nov 2006 05:02 GMT
You took the words out of my mouth  'maggitty'<g>!

Really Jason you have a warm heart, but you may be doing this woman more =
harm than good over the long term.... perhaps she isn't even aware of =
just how miserable she can be and why .... and maybe if she knew, she =
would seek counselling and become a happier and more self confident =
person for the rest of her years?!

Worth saying anyhow and good luck to you with your friendship; sounds =
like a lot of work to maintain and I am sure is worth it.
 IMO every human is worth that kind of time and effort=20
and kudos to you  for staying the course Jason!
I hope one day, should she 'wake up' -that she also will recognize you =
in full.
Best wishes,
Shelagh
http://clik.to/lupus


Shelagh,
Thanks
Jason
Sherry - 14 Nov 2006 03:36 GMT
Maggie, here is his response.

Hi,
From what you've said it's difficult to say.  There are lot's of questions
about the case that are unanswered.  How old is the person? What was the
last time they went to a PCP?  What medications do they take?  What medical
conditions do they have, and perhaps most importantly were they ever a
smoker?

There is a very likely explanation that fits the case as it was explained
that would leave the physicians involved completely in the clear.

Hypotension (from an allergic reaction) can lead to decreased cardiac
perfusion especially with prior undiagnosed Coronary Artery Disease which
can lead to ischemia and infarction.  Did he rule out for an MI?
Corticosteroids even in extremely high doses rarely cause longlasting
problems and don't affect blood pressure in that way, however epinephrine
can raise blood pressure cause strokes and heart attacks etc (which they
probalby gave if he was hypotensive).  This could have led to a heart
attack, fast heart rate, but would have been justified if he was
hypotensive.   In fact he probably is carrying around an epi-pen right now
for next time.

>I know someone that was stung by a bee recently. He didn't know he was
> allergic, so when he did get to the ER, they had to aggressively treat
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Thanks,
> Maggie
Maggie - 14 Nov 2006 21:41 GMT
> Maggie, here is his response.
>
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> hypotensive.   In fact he probably is carrying around an epi-pen right now
> for next time.

Thanks so much Sherry and Sherry's nephew!   He's never smoked and the
only other health issue he had was hypoglycemia.  They had to save his
life and they had to be aggressive cause time was wasted due to him not
knowing he had an allergy.  I think you answered what I needed to know
when you mentioned the epinephrine.  I completely forgot about the
affects of that.  The cortisone was on me wee mind as the culprit.

Thank you again.  I'm sure you're a very busy nephew & I really
appreciate your help.

Bless you, Sherry.

Hugs,
Maggie
 
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