Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Lupus / November 2006
Thousands of patients are being denied access to hospital consultants because the NHS has set up schemes to block GP's referrals
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J - 11 Nov 2006 00:08 GMT http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1939882,00.html
Managers block NHS access Administrators are intercepting GPs' referrals and turning patients away in a bid to save money
Jo Revill, health editor Sunday November 5, 2006 The Observer
Thousands of patients are being denied access to hospital consultants because the NHS has set up money-saving management schemes which block GPs' referrals.
In direct contradiction to the government's claims to be encouraging more choice in healthcare, patients with rheumatoid arthritis, knee problems and eye and skin conditions are being targeted by managers who intercept referral letters and send them back to GPs or into physiotherapy clinics rather than allowing them to be seen by the appropriate specialist.
The scale of the interference has led some GPs to use extraordinary subterfuges to get their patients to a surgeon. One practice in Merseyside has decided to send letters marked 'private and confidential' to the surgeons when they need a referral, rather than using the usual computer system which would automatically block the request.
Another doctor told The Observer that he uses handwritten letters to hospitals outside his area which he knows will not be blocked from taking patients.
As the NHS struggles to deal with £620m of debt, administrators are using referral management schemes to curb hospital admissions and to cut waiting lists. The schemes start to operate once a GP sends an electronic letter to a hospital consultant, requesting an appointment for the patient.
The letter is scanned by administrators who decide whether it constitutes an 'appropriate' referral. If they deem it unnecessary, the patient is 'bounced' back to a clinic within the primary care trust, or to a nurse manager or a physiotherapy clinic if it is an orthopaedic problem.
The British Medical Association has warned ministers that the plans are threatening the relationship between a GP and patients, and that this goes against the choice agenda even though the government is adamant that the schemes can save millions of pounds.
Angry GPs in Merseyside are faxing referrals directly to a consultant to stop managers intercepting them. They are also posting letters marked 'private and confidential' to prevent hospital staff from opening them, and pushing patients back into the GP clinics. Doctors at a practice in St Helens said they were forced to take the action after patients they had referred for orthopaedic, rheumatology and physiotherapy were being diverted away from Whiston Hospital in Prescot to a physiotherapy clinic.
A family doctor in Hertfordshire said that he had started to send orthopaedic patients to a hospital outside their local area, so that he knows they will see a surgeon. Dr Gerry Bulger is upset that his local body, Dacorum primary care trust, set up a system which means that patients with rheumatoid arthritis or orthopaedic problems cannot get an appointment with a consultant; instead they are sent to see a physiotherapist or another GP, who then decides what to do.
Dr Bulger said: 'Sometimes I write a hand-written letter to a hospital which I know will accept them, to get round the diktat. How can the government talk about giving patients choice when they are not allowed in at the front door?'
Evidence from almost 100 PCTs found huge variations in the way GP referrals are being handled, with some trusts using the centres to cut up to 15 per cent of referrals. Orthopaedics, dermatology and physiotherapy were the disciplines where referral management was most prevalent. As a result, almost half the country's dermatology departments are suffering from a huge loss of workload and some may have to close, as patients are siphoned back into GP clinics.
Dr Jonathan Field, consultant leader for the BMA, said: 'Some of the referrals from one consultant to another in the same hospital are now being blocked, which is dangerous because it introduces really long delays.'
In north London, all outpatient follow-up appointments are being stopped unless the patient has cancer and GPs will be expected to check on patients. All referrals for skin conditions are being banned unless GPs stress it is urgent.
Enfield primary care trust is bringing in the measures in the next two weeks to save £5.5m. Every referral to a hospital specialist is now being screened by a panel of GPs, clinicians and hospital specialists under a referral management system known as the Specialist Clinical Assessment Service. A spokeswoman for Enfield primary care trust said the changes are in line with government policy to encourage patients to be treated in primary care near their homes.
A spokesperson for the Department of Health said: 'Referral management schemes should ensure NHS patients see the most appropriate clinician in the most convenient setting. These schemes must only be set up where they will benefit patients.'
Cindy M - 11 Nov 2006 13:48 GMT J... Good to see you... Haven't seen you posting lately...but it could just be me... Hope everything is ok... Cindy
> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1939882,00.html > [quoted text clipped - 91 lines] > the most convenient setting. These schemes must only be set up where they > will benefit patients.' Beverley - 12 Nov 2006 03:43 GMT And there are people here in the USA want a national health care system? Geez! Our system has its flaws but at least we are free to see who we want and when we want. Bev
> http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1939882,00.html > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Jo Revill, health editor > Sunday November 5, 2006 The Observer Sherry - 12 Nov 2006 15:07 GMT How sad (maybe even criminal) that medical systems/insurance companies/ HMO's/ PPO's in any country can set up systems and schemes that can keep the insured from getting medical care that they need. I have never understood having to go to your gp pay the gp visit so you can get a referral to a specialist. Seems like a waist of time and money to me....if you need a OBGYN, a Rheumy, a neurologist, or any other "specialist" most people "know" who they need to see for what condition/illness etc.
There has to be a system that works for all regardless of their finances and or "social" standing. I am one of those people in the USA that would like to see a national health care system....I beleive that my family and neighbors have as much right to affordable & appropriate health care (medical, dental, and optical) as the people whose health care is provided by our tax dollars. What is fair about a system that provides "free" medical care for some, forces some to loose everything they have (or just not go and suffer maybe even die) or makes a rich man a poor man and the elderly loose their homes?
The same "games" that J's posted article exposes on the "money saving management" are also happening with private insurance and group insurance here in this country daily!
There has to be an answer!!!!!!
Hugs. Sherry
> And there are people here in the USA want a national health care system? > Geez! Our system has its flaws but at least we are free to see who we want [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> Jo Revill, health editor >> Sunday November 5, 2006 The Observer Maggie - 13 Nov 2006 22:50 GMT > How sad (maybe even criminal) that medical systems/insurance companies/ > HMO's/ PPO's in any country can set up systems and schemes that can keep [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Hugs. > Sherry Well said, Sherry! Bless your heart...I've never seen you talk so much...LoL! You go girl!
Sherry - 13 Nov 2006 23:19 GMT Maggie, some things just get me riled up....most of the time I know when to keep my mouth shut <g> This wasn't one of them.
Hugs, Sherry
> Well said, Sherry! Bless your heart...I've never seen you talk so > much...LoL! You go girl! Beverley - 14 Nov 2006 13:18 GMT We're actually quite close to a national system. Many states have set up insurance programs for those at the low end of the scale. In Virginia small children have complete access to medical care - it's like an HMO as do any folks on food stamps, welfare, etc.
The problem is those in the middle. The ones who don't have health insurance because it is not offered where they work or they can't afford it. We're back to the working poor. They are the ones that tend to be hurt the most.
If I had to do this dental surgery without insurance we could not really have afforded it. I guess I would have figured out how to pay for it, out of pocket, but it would have really hurt us financially. Bev
> How sad (maybe even criminal) that medical systems/insurance companies/ > HMO's/ PPO's in any country can set up systems and schemes that can keep [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >> Jo Revill, health editor > >> Sunday November 5, 2006 The Observer Andy - 13 Nov 2006 17:04 GMT >And there are people here in the USA want a national health care system? >Geez! Our system has its flaws but at least we are free to see who we want >and when we want. >Bev As I understand it, so are we ... provided we have private medical insurance, or a well-stuffed piggy bank.
 Signature Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!
Maggie - 13 Nov 2006 22:47 GMT Bev wrote: And there are people here in the USA want a national health care system? Geez! Our system has its flaws but at least we are free to see who we want and when we want. Bev
As I understand it, so are we ... provided we have private medical insurance, or a well-stuffed piggy bank.
Hmmm....the irony. If we have private insurance (with most, anyway), we must have a referral to see a specialist in the USA, whereas if you DON'T have private insurance in the UK, you have to have a referral to see a specialist.
Andy - 14 Nov 2006 10:03 GMT >Bev wrote: >And there are people here in the USA want a national health care [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >DON'T have private insurance in the UK, you have to have a referral to >see a specialist. Sorry, no, I didn't mean that. What I meant was that if you (or your insurance) can pay, then you can be referred to a specialist without some bean-counter blocking it. You'd still be going through a GP, though - who could also be private. Even private specialists dislike a patient turning up and saying "I have Frog disease, which I have researched on the Internet; here's my cash; kindly cure it".
 Signature Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!
Beverley - 14 Nov 2006 13:09 GMT Frog Disease, hmmm, so that is what they call it when you are croaking. Bev
> Sorry, no, I didn't mean that. What I meant was that if you (or your > insurance) can pay, then you can be referred to a specialist without > some bean-counter blocking it. You'd still be going through a GP, though > - who could also be private. Even private specialists dislike a patient > turning up and saying "I have Frog disease, which I have researched on > the Internet; here's my cash; kindly cure it". Maggie - 14 Nov 2006 21:28 GMT > Frog Disease, hmmm, so that is what they call it when you are croaking. > Bev To Andy: You walked right into that one! :P
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