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Beverley - 11 Apr 2006 02:53 GMT
Just when I think things are quiet they start up again.

We got a notice from the city to paint the porch (which we had started
anyway) and the carriage house but they only gave us 30 days to do it all!!
There's a big fine $$$ if we don't finish in time. Guess who is going to get
a big fine! I've contacted a friend who is with the big newspaper not the
local rag and he's going to do a story on it. The whole neighborhood has
been nailed for painting and other repairs. (We live in a historic
district.)

I'm dying from holding a heat gun above my head, scraping paint, and
sanding. I can only work for so long and then I give out. Fricking Victorian
porch with all its little doodads and curlicues with 100 years of paint
stuck in them! In some places the paint is over a 1/2 inch thick.

Tonight I'm waiting to hear from my daughter they have taken my
step-granddaughter to the children's hospital with kidney stones. S-GD has
one stone stuck in the ureter (sp? between the kidney and the bladder) and
the kidney is grossly enlarged with several more stones in the kidney.
Children do not get kidney stones so it has to be managed by pediatric
specialists for both the stones and the pain.

My burned hand is much better but still tender.
Bev
Nicole - 11 Apr 2006 08:16 GMT
Are you kidding me?  Ridiculous.
Our home association is bad but not that bad.  My yard didn't get mowed for
3 weeks (during the winter mind you) and I got a notice.... Stupid.

OMG on your S-GD.  I hope she's ok.  I've never heard of a child getting
stones.  I've had one and ouch!  Poor baby.  Keep us updated
Nicole
> Just when I think things are quiet they start up again.
>
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> My burned hand is much better but still tender.
> Bev
Sherry - 12 Apr 2006 00:40 GMT
Bev,
I sure hope that your s-gd is doing much better by the time you check back
with the group.  Will add her to my prayers.

Maybe, the city or whoever wrote the notice to paint the porch and the
carriage house would like to grab a tool and get busy helping!  Mind you I
understand that they think that they have a job to do....but give me a
break....the houses that need painting need it for a couple of
reasons....time and money!  So if they fine you that is that much longer
till the painting can get done.

Kepp us posted on the step granddaughter as soon as you can.

Glad to hear that your burnt hand is better!

Hugs,
Sherry
Beverley - 12 Apr 2006 01:26 GMT
Well the child is back home in her own bed tonight. They started a surgical
procedure to put a stint in and when they did they dislodged the stone and
it fell out through the tube. So they have sent it to pathology and sent her
home. It was the size of a large garden pea. They couldn't do the "sound
thing" on it because it was right by her ovary.

The child still has to see a nephrologist but the worst is over for now.

What a 24 hours this has been.
Bev

> Just when I think things are quiet they start up again.
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> My burned hand is much better but still tender.
> Bev
shelagh - 12 Apr 2006 21:07 GMT
Well thank goodness for small miracles... the stone just falling out probably eased the whole procedure for her!
I am so happy for her and her entire family... go and get some rest now Bev..
remember, you still have a porch to paint 'to code'<g>!
hugs, Shelagh
> Well the child is back home in her own bed tonight. They started a surgical
> procedure to put a stint in and when they did they dislodged the stone and
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>> My burned hand is much better but still tender.
>> Bev
J - 13 Apr 2006 09:51 GMT
> Well the child is back home in her own bed tonight. They started a surgical
> procedure to put a stint in and when they did they dislodged the stone and
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>
> The child still has to see a nephrologist but the worst is over for now.

Yes, I think they're supposed to check for metabolic problems.
J
Beverley - 14 Apr 2006 01:48 GMT
I think she still has stones in the kidney.  Poor thing was so frightened:
they think they are so grown up until something goes wrong and then they
turn right back into little children!
Bev

> > Well the child is back home in her own bed tonight. They started a surgical
> > procedure to put a stint in and when they did they dislodged the stone and
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> Yes, I think they're supposed to check for metabolic problems.
> J
Sherry - 14 Apr 2006 02:23 GMT
No matter how old they are!  I know that it is very painful from watching my
son.  He was over 30 when he had his and he really thought that he was going
to die.  (This is a "macho man" that professionally hillclimbs motorcycles
and put a world of hurt on his body at times.)

If she is a soda drinker...has anyone told them to cut the caffeine from the
diet?  That is one of the first things they told Paul no soda and no coffee.
Don't know why.

Hope she is 100% soon.

Hugs,
Sherry

>I think she still has stones in the kidney.  Poor thing was so frightened:
> they think they are so grown up until something goes wrong and then they
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>> Yes, I think they're supposed to check for metabolic problems.
>> J
William R  Thompson - 14 Apr 2006 14:25 GMT
>I think she still has stones in the kidney.  Poor thing was so frightened:
> they think they are so grown up until something goes wrong and then they
> turn right back into little children!

I hope she has a speedy recovery.  My parents, both brothers and
my nephew have all had kidney stones, and they all describe the
pain as incredible.

The doctors have recommended that they drink cranberry juice
to help prevent stones.  I don't know what benefit that's supposed
to have, but you might have someone ask the doctor what he thinks.

--Bill Thompson
J - 14 Apr 2006 20:27 GMT
William R Thompson wrote:

> .  My parents, both brothers and
> my nephew have all had kidney stones, and they all describe the
> pain as incredible.

I wonder why Utah isn't in the kidney stone belt..

I was also wondering if Utah got all the salt from the glaciers (salt lake
city, salt flats)
see salt (and probably other minerals in water and earth and foods)  in the
kidney stone post

The great lakes area was known as the thyroid belt because the glaciers scraped
away the upper layers of earth containing salt (or something like that)
The Bonneville Salt Flats are a 121 km² (47 mi²) salt flat in northwestern
Utah. A remnant of the ancient Lake Bonneville of glacial times, the Salt Flats
are now public lands managed by the Bureau of Land Management.

http://www.saltinstitute.org/idd.html
here are numerous reports in the literature that demonstrate effectiveness of
iodized salt in controlling endemic goiter. Iodization of salt is known to be a
safe, efficient, and preferred prophylactic method for endemic goiter in the
U.S. (Ref. 1). In the early 1900's, goiter was prevalent in those states
bordering the Great Lakes and in the northwestern region of the United States.
Voluntary fortification of salt with iodine was introduced in 1924 and resulted
in a virtual elimination of endemic goiter in the U.S. Some notable examples
are as follows:

http://www.mountainnature.com/Geology/Glaciers.htm
Despite their immense impact on the landscape, glaciers are a relative newcomer
to the mountain scene. The first buildup of ice occurred approximately 240,000
years ago and ended 128,000 BP. It was followed by a period of warmer climate.
There were at least 5 subsequent advances that saw glaciers reclaiming their
valleys. In reality, the ice age was not something that began, and then ended.
It was a series of advances followed by warmer Interglacial Periods. The final
advance was quite recent,  beginning approximately 1200 AD, and ending at the
turn of the 20th century.

Beginning 240,000 years ago and ending 128,000 years ago, a period known as the
Great Glaciation took place. Geologists refer to this period as the Illinoian
Glaciation. This was the period of greatest accumulation, and ice flowed
eastward onto the plains. During its peak, they flowed eastward until they
encountered the large continental glacier that was rapidly expanding westward.
As this advance waned, an ice-free corridor was formed between the retreating
mountain glaciers, and the continental glaciers. During subsequent advances,
this corridor was maintained. Scientists believe it formed a travel route
allowing the ancestors of our native Indians to migrate from Asia to North
America. At the time, Alaska was joined to Siberia by a land bridge...

oh well, I'd have to see a map of glacier (movement) overlaid overtop of
current North America
J
Beverley - 14 Apr 2006 21:45 GMT
J,  you always come up with some of the most interesting stuff.
:-)
((BIG HUGS))
Bev

> William R Thompson wrote:
>
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> current North America
> J
candi bowen - 14 Apr 2006 23:00 GMT
Speaking of kidney stones & the great lakes . . . my x-hubby's dr told him
it was from the calcium in our water.

This is a funny/sad story. Whenever I was sick because of lupus, if I was
hospitalized or 'just' sick at home, my ex wasn't very supportive, to say
the least. He had a hard time even visiting me when I was in the hospital;
said he just couldn't deal with hospitals. Whatever. We obviously had
issues. I was lying on a hospital bed, waiting for the dr to come & tell me
whether they were going to amputate my foot or not because of a joint
infection & subsequent cellulitis, when he waltzed into my room all suited
up from work & said he wanted a divorce. Do you think he could have picked a
better time? After 13 years?! I was the one that was supposed to leave, not
him! He BEGGED me not to leave a year before that & talked me into
counseling!

Gee, suddenly he developed a kidney stone! He hadn't moved out yet so I was
his designated driver. The stone was in a place that couldn't be blasted so
he had to have surgery. I begged the nurse to let me tell him how they were
going to go up Mr. Winky to retrieve it. By then, all the nurses knew the
story & were all on my side, even tho they did take care of him, but they
weren't all that sympathetic with his plight. In recovery, they also let me
tell him that the surgery was unsuccessful (PLEASE let me tell him!) & would
have to be repeated. THREE times yay! Then he wanted to get back together.
NOT.

Candi

> From: J <mdates@invalid.inv>
> Newsgroups: alt.support.lupus
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> current North America
> J
Sherry - 15 Apr 2006 05:24 GMT
Paybacks are a (insert own word) <g>  Good for you!!!!!!!

Hugs,
Sherry

> Speaking of kidney stones & the great lakes . . . my x-hubby's dr told him
> it was from the calcium in our water.
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>> current North America
>> J
William R  Thompson - 15 Apr 2006 08:48 GMT
> William R Thompson wrote:

>> My parents, both brothers and
>> my nephew have all had kidney stones, and they all describe the
>> pain as incredible.

> I wonder why Utah isn't in the kidney stone belt..

The family is all over the country, so the tendency toward kidney
stones may be partly hereditary.  It's missed me, perhaps because
I'd rather drink water anyway.  A few years ago Dad developed a
kidney stone after a doctor told him to take vitamin C pills.  There
were enough calcium compounds in the pills to push his blood
calcium levels over the safe limit for stones.

> I was also wondering if Utah got all the salt from the glaciers (salt lake
> city, salt flats)

The water is relatively hard here, but not unusually so.  Most of the
water comes from rain and snow meltoff from the mountains; the Great
Salt Lake and Utah Lake aren't a factor in it.

> The great lakes area was known as the thyroid belt because the glaciers
> scraped
> away the upper layers of earth containing salt (or something like that)

As I recall, the thyroid problem has to do with the lack of iodine in
salt from salt licks and mines.  Ocean salt contains it naturally thanks to
kelp and other animal life, and retains it thanks to the evaporation process
used tp produce sea-salt.  At least in America, most salt deposits are
rock salt and conatin other minerals, and processing it to extract the
sodium chloride (table salt) leaves behind any iodine in the original ore.

--Bill Thompson
J - 13 Apr 2006 09:55 GMT
> We got a notice from the city to paint the porch (which we had started
> anyway) and the carriage house but they only gave us 30 days to do it all!!
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> porch with all its little doodads and curlicues with 100 years of paint
> stuck in them! In some places the paint is over a 1/2 inch thick.

ugh!  I sure wouldn't want that job.
J
 
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