Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Lupus / March 2006
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Kathy - 19 Mar 2006 02:04 GMT My 16 year old has the fatigue, red face, shortness of breath. weight gain, warm all the time, but no arthrithic problems. Can you have lupus and not have arthritis since she is so young? Also her thyroid antibody test was 124, normal is under 35. Thanks, Kathy
Nutty - 20 Mar 2006 17:25 GMT > My 16 year old has the fatigue, red face, shortness of breath. weight > gain, warm all the time, > but no arthrithic problems. Can you have lupus and not have arthritis > since she is so young? Also her thyroid antibody test was 124, normal > is under 35. Thanks, Kathy Hi Kathy,
I can't say whether your daughter has lupus or not. However, I was recently diagnosed with lupus and I have no arthritis or joint pain. There are several criteria for lupus.
Nutty
Kathy - 20 Mar 2006 18:39 GMT Thanks so much, will see doctor today, will post later about results. Kathy
J - 20 Mar 2006 19:09 GMT > My 16 year old has the fatigue, red face, shortness of breath. weight > gain, warm all the time, > but no arthrithic problems. Can you have lupus and not have arthritis > since she is so young? Also her thyroid antibody test was 124, normal > is under 35. Thanks, Kathy Hello Kathy, I don't know what's going on with your daughter. I had the Hashimoto's thyroiditis antibody show up on testing and have been treated for thyroid condition for years. I just dropped by to say Good Luck with the appointment today. Let us know. J
Kathy - 21 Mar 2006 01:17 GMT Thanks soooo much, she saw a very good diagnostic internist today. She has been treated for hypothroidism for 4 months and is on medication, but hasn't felt much better. He tested her for lupus today just in case and did a pulmonary test on her breathing. Will see how that comes out. Thanks for your conern, it's great to know there are so many other people out there going thru similar circumstances and that really care! Kathy
Gretchen - 22 Mar 2006 00:08 GMT Kathy, it is so scary to have child that may have a serious illness. My 14 year old has been struggling for a couple years now with symptoms and lab results that don't make sense to anyone. She, also, doesn't have any arthritis, but it looks like she's got a lupus related clotting disorder. She has "migraines" that cause her to loose use of her right arm, her speech is so slurred we can hardly understand her and sometimes her face droops - like she's had a stroke. The only thing that works is Prednisone, and that is dramatic.
Anyway, I feel your pain. It's great that you have an internist that will see a teen. I hope you get some answers soon. The not knowing can be worse than having a name for it.
Gretchen
Di - 23 Mar 2006 07:00 GMT Hi Kathy and everyone, I'm Diane and I can sympathize. My 16-yr old daughter Isabelle was also just diagnosed with lupus. She had Reynaud's (which we didn't know the name for, of course) which was getting to be a nuisance, so we went to see her pediatrician. She did some blood work and immediately referred my daughter to a pediatric rheumatoid specialist, who was able to confirm lupus with remarkable speed. She has so many symptoms: fatigue, Reynaud's, cold sores (since she was 4), arthritis in both hands (such a shock), fever (102), and the lab work. All this has happened in little more than one month. Before that, Isabelle was so active playing one or two sports at a time at school that the fact that she'd want to lay down when she got home and sleep late on the weekends didn't seem at all unusual. How could it be? She's a teenager! But the arthritis and all the rest of the symptoms have started in with a vengence that has not abated. I have been so scared for her. Isabelle has been running a high fever, totally wiped out and sore all over. She's on napracin and also an anti-malarial drug so far. Yet she gets up each morning to go to school without complaint. Yesterday morning I gave her some Tylenol because she was feverish, and she remarked how it made her feel better than usual. I had no idea how awful she felt, she's such a stoic kid. Anyway, the good news is Isabelle has felt a little better the last two days, and we're going to see her rheumy dr tomorrow to give him an update. He is already talking about 20 mg of prednisone though. Just how common is lupus in teenagers? I've been reading all your posts, and learning from them. I also have some of the books that you all have recommended. It's quite a learning process. Thanks for letting me ramble. Di
J - 24 Mar 2006 01:54 GMT > I'm Diane and I can sympathize. My 16-yr old daughter Isabelle was also > just diagnosed with lupus. She had Reynaud's (which we didn't know the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > give him an update. He is already talking about 20 mg of prednisone > though. hello Di, Here's my opinion. Obviously your daughter's in a flare. This is no time to be stoic. I just posted an article that has lots of tidbits in it. It mentions hours of sunlight to avoid, but in reality we get UV rays through windows, reflecting off sand, snow and water, at any time of the day, even indoors from certain lighting.
If your daughter wants to feel better and keep her medicine burden as low as possible, she's got to protect herself from UV (whether coating car and home windows), wearing sun protective clothing (see FAQ about both), getting lots of rest and avoiding stress and making her education and her health her priority.
I think certain foods to be avoided are also mentioned in the FAQ. We tell people to keep a diary, so they can backtrack as to what might have started a flareup (some days earlier).
IF it was my daugter, I'd follow her around on a typical day and take notes as to when she's getting UV exposures and which activities should be switched to very early morning (or late evening) hours to avoid UV exposures and whether there's a place, at school, where she can have a snooze during lunch break.
her friends may leave her behind on some activities and adjust their schedules for others. It's her body and her health and just starting out, there can be serious implications of taking steroids longterm. She's got to understand that what she does now may affect her later. She can have a normal life, like everyone, with some adjustments. J
Di - 24 Mar 2006 04:51 GMT Hi J - Thanks for the information. Where do I find the FAQ? (Pardon my ignorance!) I took Isabelle to her rheumy dr today and we were able to stave off the steroids. She has felt much better the last two days, altho she hasn't much appetite. She looks much better too, and no fever. Her doctor said you just have to weight the consequences of drugs/no drugs. If going without steroids is going to allow the lupus to cause more damage to her body, then maybe she needs prednisone to reduce the inflammation, then taper down. RIght now she definitely does not need such a strong drug. It looks like the anti-malarial drug is kicking in, & hopefully the vitamins she's been taking the last month. We go back to the dr in a month. I've taken quite a bit of predisone myself for asthma, so I know what it's like, altho I've never taken it long enough to have the body changes. Anyway, thanks for your input. I didn't know if what was happening to Isabelle would be called a flare or just the progress of the disease. Very scary! Di
J - 24 Mar 2006 21:12 GMT > Hi J - Thanks for the information. Where do I find the FAQ? (Pardon my > ignorance!) I took Isabelle to her rheumy dr today and we were able to [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > didn't know if what was happening to Isabelle would be called a flare > or just the progress of the disease. Very scary! I posted the FAQ and some other info from other websites. Sounds to me that she's had it for quite a while, so I'm glad the medicines are helping. She's got a lot of information to absorb about Lupus.
There have been younger persons posting here, but most of them go on with their lives and take care of themselves, so we don't hear much from them, unless they read only and take care of their hands and not type too much. Speaking of which, I think it's time for me to stop. Sending hugs to you and your daughter, J
Andy - 27 Mar 2006 16:05 GMT >Hi J - Thanks for the information. Where do I find the FAQ? http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk/katfaq
 Signature Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group] See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!
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