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candi bowen - 03 Mar 2006 20:23 GMT
I have lung problems with lupus, as many do; have had lupus pneumonitis,
pleurisy, asthma, etc. & I've gotten a bit of relief when I took up the
flute 2 years ago. I LOVE it! I guess it could be any wind instrument; I
just personally like the sound of the flute. Used to play clarinet in school
but I just don't like how it sounds. All the little girls wanted to play the
flute & I didn't sign up quick enough so I was stuck with clarinet. Even
playing a horn would be good - maybe even better for the lungs, as long as
your significant other doesn't mind. So, anyway, if anyone out there has
ever had a hankering to learn a wind instrument, it will help your lung
capacity. I have a Hall Crystal flute (they're GORGEOUS), among others that
I've been collecting. I'm thinking of getting a silver keyed flute because
the Hall is a simple Irish system (no keys, just holes on top that are
harder to cover, which can make tendonitis worse) but maybe next year I'll
get a keyed flute. Or a Native American flute. They're even easier to play
because they're end blown, not side blown, so you don't have to worry about
embouchure. Heck, I have a Flutofone in plastic that was only $10.00 & it
sounds good. My hubby made me a side-blown flute out of PVC (got
instructions on the internet) & I decorated it with spray paint & it sounds
good too & is easy to play.

Candi
Mair - 03 Mar 2006 23:37 GMT
What a coincidence!  I wanted to play the flute as well, and the Band
Director said "We have 20 girls who are playing flute, and no one to play
saxophone.  If you take up the alto sax, you can be playing 1st chair within
a year.  Jazz band also"  I went for it in a flash.  I had so much fun.  I
dont have the sax anymore, but I have a soprano recorder... you know what
that is... wooden rennaisance instument with a whistle mouthpiece and just
holes, no keys.  It is fun for playing simple melodies, and I think it helps
my lungs too, to exercise them, like that dumb thing they give you in the
hospital... to blow in it and make the balls go up the chute.

Anyway, just thought I woudl "chime in" so to speak.

Mair

>I have lung problems with lupus, as many do; have had lupus pneumonitis,
> pleurisy, asthma, etc. & I've gotten a bit of relief when I took up the
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> Candi
candi bowen - 04 Mar 2006 13:04 GMT
Hah! Bet I made you get it out to play, didn't I? A recorder IS a flute; you
can play more than simple tunes. If you practice. Yeah, that stupid plastic
thing with the balls & they're not at all melodic. I decorated mine with
hippie flowers; are they still back in style or do we have to wait another
20 years?

Candi

> From: "Mair" <nobody@nowhere.net>
> Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
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>> Candi
Mair - 04 Mar 2006 19:04 GMT
> Hah! Bet I made you get it out to play, didn't I? A recorder IS a flute;
> you
> can play more than simple tunes. If you practice.

[Mair hangs her head] Yeah, I guess so.  My embouchure is totally out of
shape, so often when I pick it up and blow into it, it just gives of this
high-pitched whine...

I guess to me a "real" flute is the standard kind that you play in band or
symphony.  I rented a "real" flute for one summer (the "off" season for my
saxophone playing), and of course after honking it out on the sax for a
year, I picked up the flute and found it such a gentle and easy instrument.
the keying is all the same, except for the really high notes.

I wish I could play flutes without keys, but I have these incredibly short
fingers.  Oh dear.  Now I am going to have to go downtown to the Tibetan
culture house and play with the flutes.  On the subject of things Tibetan, I
have three Tibetan prayer bowls--or bells--the kind you ring around the
outside with a stick.

Y'all have probably heard this a zillion times from me this year.... but my
lupus has left my hands.  Not the rest of me, but just my hands!  Which
means that I can play instruments and hold common everyday objects.  I used
to play guitar, but sadly could not play when my hands went bad.  Well, now
I have a guitar, but I did a really neat thing--I got a 3/4 guitar, which is
only 34" long.  It is much easier on my arms and shoulders.  I would
recommend this to anyone as an alternative before "giving up" on the guitar.

I'm gonna make some other posts on this thread, so if your'e interested,
look back for them.

Mair

>> From: "Mair" <nobody@nowhere.net>
>> Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
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>>> Candi
candi bowen - 04 Mar 2006 19:49 GMT
Mair,

Get a piccolo! They're shorter (I have short fingers too & have a hard time)
so the holes are closer together but Hall Crystal Flutes has a special on a
C piccolo for $50, which is really cheap. I've never played one & have heard
the embouchure is more difficult than a D flute, but who knows? Plus,
they're REALLY pretty; they're made of clear pyrex & you can get ones with
designs on them or plain. The one on sale right now is a purple lily design
& no, I'm not touting their flutes & have no stock or anything else in their
co. Or rent one to see how it goes. I'm thinking of trying a piccolo for the
finger thing. But I broke my D flute on Tues, it slid out of the case &
crashed into hundreds of slivers, & ordered a new one which should arrive
Mon so the piccolo will have to wait for a while. Halls aren't supposed to
be very fragile, like the cookwear, but when one does break, it's toast.
Even Gorilla glue wouldn't put it back together.

Candi

> From: "Mair" <nobody@nowhere.net>
> Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
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>>>> Candi
Mair - 04 Mar 2006 21:08 GMT
But I broke my D flute on Tues, it slid out of the case &
> crashed into hundreds of slivers, & ordered a new one which should arrive
> Mon so the piccolo will have to wait for a while. Halls aren't supposed to
> be very fragile, like the cookwear, but when one does break, it's toast.
> Even Gorilla glue wouldn't put it back together

Well, according to Pigmet's observations (see below) the D flute should
still play, no problem.  :o)

> Get a piccolo! They're shorter (I have short fingers too & have a hard
> time)
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> heard
> the embouchure is more difficult than a D flute

I think that soprano recorder is the equivalent of a piccolo. My emboucher
is really good for high instruments (I am the proverbial high-strung
person).  Piccolo was another alternative for me in band... but at that time
the piccolo cost too much to rent, they wouldn't do it.  Then, the following
year, this Freshman came in and blew us all away... literally.  We changed
our competition march to "Stars and Stripes Forever"  and that girl could
carry the entire piccolo part... I still have a tape of that, and you would
no way think that was one piccolo... let along a high school freshman.

Honestly, I'm not going to get too much more into music right now... I've
got writing and picture-making that I am already avoiding.  But I do play
just a couple of pieces on the guitar most nights right before I go to
bed.... to sort of mellow me out.

maybe I'll mellow out right now... for sure I will play my instruments more
just because of this thread!

Mair

, but who knows? Plus,
> they're REALLY pretty; they're made of clear pyrex & you can get ones with
> designs on them or plain. The one on sale right now is a purple lily
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Beverley - 04 Mar 2006 02:16 GMT
Maybe this is a bit off topic (what I am saying) but for years I lived next
door to a flutist. It was pure heaven. This gal moved into the townhouse
next to us and she knocked on my door and said she played the flute and
hoped it wouldn't bother me. Well, considering in another building there
lived two members of a rock band and no one ever heard them practice I
figured I'd never hear her. For whatever reason when the kids left in the
morning for school and all was quiet she would sit in her dining room and
play her flute and I could hear her. It as wonderful. I just got to the
point I would brew a pot of coffee and take it over and sit and listen to
her for about an hour. She had played professionally with one of the big
symphonies before she got married so her ability to play was awesome.
Musicians have a way of finding one another and soon she had a guy who
played cello join her a couple of times a week. It was wonderful for the
soul to hear that kind of music every morning, what a perfect way to start
the day. There is nothing like good friendship, good coffee and beautiful
music for the spirit.

Now my granddaughter is  learning to play the flute. She wanted to take
violin until she found out she couldn't march in the band with it. The only
instrument left for her to play was the flute so she said okay. She's now
playing with a full set of braces on her teeth.  Did I really say playing?
Um, well, she makes a lot of puffs and whistles. LOL

Go for it, Candi. Everybody needs something fun in their life.
Bev

> I have lung problems with lupus, as many do; have had lupus pneumonitis,
> pleurisy, asthma, etc. & I've gotten a bit of relief when I took up the
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> Candi
Andy - 04 Mar 2006 10:41 GMT
>Maybe this is a bit off topic (what I am saying) but for years I lived next
>door to a flutist. It was pure heaven.

On the other hand ... when I was younger I played the Scottish Bagpipes.
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Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group]
See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

candi bowen - 04 Mar 2006 15:26 GMT
Boy, Andy, that'd give your lungs a workout. When I was a kid, my dad bought
me bagpipes (we're Stewarts - in Ohio no less & I still wonder where the
heck he found them) but at the age of 10, I never quite got it. I LOVE them
tho; hired a piper for his funeral & still cry when I hear them.
Candi

> From: Andy <andy@kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk>
> Organization: meathome
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> On the other hand ... when I was younger I played the Scottish Bagpipes.
Andy - 04 Mar 2006 18:34 GMT
>Boy, Andy, that'd give your lungs a workout.

Well, it was a tough contest... eventually I lost :)  But I sold them to
a good home.
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See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

Mair - 04 Mar 2006 19:07 GMT
> On the other hand ... when I was younger I played the Scottish Bagpipes.

You must have had quite a "set of lungs" on you!

<wink!>

Mair
Andy - 04 Mar 2006 20:55 GMT
>> On the other hand ... when I was younger I played the Scottish Bagpipes.
>
>You must have had quite a "set of lungs" on you!

"Size isn't everything" applies here too...
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Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group]
See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

Beverley - 05 Mar 2006 01:35 GMT
My eye doctor is Jewish and he took up the bagpipes for fun. Apparently he's
pretty darn good with them. We've got a big "fraternity" of Scots in the
area and I think one of his clients belongs to it. The doc did it for the
exercise and because he liked the sound.

I like good bagpipe music - always did. I've always liked Celtic music -
long before it became popular here. I remember when I was a kid I wanted to
learn to play them but my parents said no. I don't think my mother liked
them. LOL
Bev

> >Maybe this is a bit off topic (what I am saying) but for years I lived next
> >door to a flutist. It was pure heaven.
>
> On the other hand ... when I was younger I played the Scottish Bagpipes.
Andy - 05 Mar 2006 10:07 GMT
>My eye doctor is Jewish and he took up the bagpipes for fun. Apparently he's
>pretty darn good with them. We've got a big "fraternity" of Scots in the
>area and I think one of his clients belongs to it. The doc did it for the
>exercise and because he liked the sound.
>
>I like good bagpipe music - always did.

So do I - not that mine was :(
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Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group]
See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

candi bowen - 04 Mar 2006 13:07 GMT
Bev,

It's not OT if a wind instrument can be used as therapy, I think. But how
cool about your neighbor. Afraid I'll never join the symphony but at least
my dogs have stopped accompanying me & even the granddaughters say 'She's
really getting good!" But with braces?! That's GOT to hurt. Why don't you
play around with her flute for fun? Ya never know . . .

Candi

> From: "Beverley" <beverly.brown28@verizon.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.support.lupus
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>> Candi
Mair - 04 Mar 2006 19:37 GMT
Reply at bottom...
> Maybe this is a bit off topic (what I am saying) but for years I lived
> next
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> Go for it, Candi. Everybody needs something fun in their life.
> Bev

Hi Bev...

Regarding living next to musicians.  I have lived in apartments all my life,
and most of the time lived upstairs from a musician, specifically
guitarists... good guitarists, professional.
These guys don't usually even do the "hope I'm not bothering you" routine,
but fortunately, I enjoy hearing the guitar music floating up.  At one point
they were cutting a C&W tune for a guy to take to Nashville for an audition.
They were making 16 tracks, and that had me a bit snappish.

The third guitarist neighbor I had (just before I moved to my present
place)--he would sit out on the deck and play, and I would open up the
French Doors to my balcony above.  It was just great.  And he burned CDs of
his tunes cause I told him that I missed them so much!  Living close to
professional guitar players could be a problem for some, because they sleep
so late, but I sleep almost as late because of my lupus.  they get 5-6 hours
of sleep, and I would get 12 hours!

Now about Deme:

I am surprised they put wire braces on her... I thought they were using
other methods now.  But encourage her:  it can be done.  Most of the girls I
knew in band had braces put on their teeth and were very upset.  The dentist
gives you that wax to cover over the rough spots, so just slap it on and
don't lose hope.  She needs to develop emboucher, so don't blame the
braces....  Any wind instrument is going to clash with braces... I think the
trumpet is probably the worst.  I knew a trumpet player whose emboucer was
so good, he could squeak out "Silent Night" on his lips without even using
the trumpet!  LOL!

Ah, the flute.... now I'm all nostalgic

I just watched "Walk the Line," which I gave mixed reviews.  But I grew up
in a similar environment.  My stepdad was a C&W harmonica player, and there
was music at all hours in the house, and that's how I learned to play the
guitar.

I'm a pickin'...
and I'm a grinnin'
--Hee-HAW!

Mair
Pigmet - 04 Mar 2006 19:57 GMT
An interestin thought to consider:  It is not actshually the instrament that
makes the music, but the air flowin through it.  This is a Taoist type
meditation, my favorite one, and I will print it here.  Ya don't have to
read it.

ELEVEN (Tao Te Ching)

Thirty spokes share the wheel's hub;
It is the center hole that makes it useful.
Shape clay into a vessel;
It is the space within that makes it useful.
Cut doors and windows for a room;
It is the holes which make it useful.
Therefore profit comes from what is there;
Usefulness from what is not there.

Thanks for lettin me share my thoughts
Yer Devoted Nephew
Pigmet

> Reply at bottom...
>> Maybe this is a bit off topic (what I am saying) but for years I lived
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> Mair
Beverley - 05 Mar 2006 01:57 GMT
Good thoughts, Pigmet, thank you.
Antibev

> An interestin thought to consider:  It is not actshually the instrament that
> makes the music, but the air flowin through it.  This is a Taoist type
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> Yer Devoted Nephew
> Pigmet
Pigmet - 05 Mar 2006 04:32 GMT
Thank you Antibev.

I was not sure how my comment would come across.  Would it be appropriate?
Would it not?  I just most of all *love* all of you here... all my Anti's
and Unckles, and want you to feel as good phisically and spiritually as you
can!

From yer Devoted Nephew,
Pigmet

> Good thoughts, Pigmet, thank you.
> Antibev
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>> Yer Devoted Nephew
>> Pigmet
Beverley - 05 Mar 2006 01:55 GMT
Yeah, they still use wires but the braces have changed - they aren't so
terrible anymore. Just tiny things that don't tear up their mouths like the
old stuff. Actually the braces don't really get in her way. The flute fits
under the lower lip.

I used to try to play my neighbors flute. Her flute was gold - real gold.
She wanted a platinum one but it was way beyond her means. She often
threatened to sell her flute because they often needed the money. Anyway the
point is I could never learn to play the flute. Some of us just have to love
what other people do and be satisfied with that.

My DH plays a load of instruments. Wish he'd break out his harmonica and
play that a little more often. He doesn't play his recorder because I bought
it for him and got the wrong size. His fingers don't reach. He's got stubby
little fingers. (Be thankful he's a computer programmer and not an OB. LOL)
He can play anything with strings and I think any woodwind. I'm not sure
he's ever done reed instruments but give him one to play around with and
he'd do it. I know he can play a trumpet and bugle.

I can play a kazoo! See I do have musical talent. I even know how to make a
make-shift one. LOL
Bev
Mair - 05 Mar 2006 04:02 GMT
> I can play a kazoo! See I do have musical talent. I even know how to make
> a
> make-shift one. LOL

These are important skills, Bev, don't downplay them just because they are
yours.

:-p

Mair
Cindy - 06 Mar 2006 16:24 GMT
Sniffle sniffle....
I can't even whistle....
Always wanted to play the piano..Thought I might get me a keyboard and
try...But you have to be able to read music and I don't know if this brain
of mine is quick enough to do that anymore...use to be, but now...hmmmm
I don't know...
But I am trying that writing stuff...Having a real good time of it...
Hugs Cindy
>I have lung problems with lupus, as many do; have had lupus pneumonitis,
> pleurisy, asthma, etc. & I've gotten a bit of relief when I took up the
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>
> Candi
candi bowen - 06 Mar 2006 20:31 GMT
Cindy,

You don't have to be able to read music! Many many people play by ear so
don't beat yourself up. I have a cheap ($60.00) keyboard from K-Mart & if
it's something you want to do, then go for it. I can't whistle either. And I
get paid to not sing. But keyboard pro'ly won't help lung problems. I took
piano when I was a kid & learned how to quickly read music but now at almost
50 that ability has fled, so I play by ear. I'm writing too & trying to get
published. I paint also, that's my claim to fame; I've sold a lot of stuff
at outdoor art fairs, etc, but haven't done any shows in the past 10 years;
it's just too grueling. But that's the one thing I'm REALLY good at. Once,
the director of the Cleveland Art Institute offered me $3,000 for a painting
but I had just finished it & it's like having a baby - you can't part with
it right away (well, I'm not saying you can part with your baby later, but I
hope you know what I mean) & I lied & told him I'd promised it to my
brother. It's still hanging on my wall, duh.

Candi

> From: "Cindy" <nospamcindyl57@cox.netnospam>
> Organization: Cox Communications
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