Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Lupus / January 2006
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Mary Rawle - 27 Jan 2006 18:50 GMT ...not to be confused with the computer software...
Hello Everyone,
I have a new landlord (this is a *good* thing), and he is replacing the windows in the duplex unit in which I live. He is *so* kind as to ask me what kind of windows I want! Isn't that great? It's an older house with double-hung multipaned glass windows that are pretty but very energy inefficient.
So. He has given me a brochure from BetterBilt windows (this is not an advertisement). They make window that will help our place look like it did before, but with double-paned glass, and I do believe it is a single pane which has bars within that make it look like multipaned glass.
Under "Window Options" it say "Low Emissivity Glass." It goes on to say "...plus most of the sun's damaging ultraviolet light is filtered out, protecting draperies, furniture, carpet [and lupus patients? {my addition}] from fading.
So. Have any of you guys had experience with this "Low Emissivity Glass?" Would I be able to peek out and see the sun shine? Little kids in the neighborhood think I am a witch, because I keep all the windows closed, and wear mostly black (I'm kidding here). But would I be able to open my curtains? that might be a landmark day....
Are they good windows? Do they really help? To what degree? What do y'all think?
Thanks in advance,
Mary
Timothy Luders - 28 Jan 2006 02:08 GMT > ...not to be confused with the computer software...
> Hello Everyone,
> I have a new landlord (this is a *good* thing), and he is replacing the > windows in the duplex unit in which I live. He is *so* kind as to ask me > what kind of windows I want! Isn't that great? It's an older house with > double-hung multipaned glass windows that are pretty but very energy > inefficient.
> So. He has given me a brochure from BetterBilt windows (this is not an > advertisement). They make window that will help our place look like it did > before, but with double-paned glass, and I do believe it is a single pane > which has bars within that make it look like multipaned glass.
> Under "Window Options" it say "Low Emissivity Glass." It goes on to say > "...plus most of the sun's damaging ultraviolet light is filtered out, > protecting draperies, furniture, carpet [and lupus patients? {my addition}] > from fading.
> So. Have any of you guys had experience with this "Low Emissivity Glass?" > Would I be able to peek out and see the sun shine? Little kids in the > neighborhood think I am a witch, because I keep all the windows closed, and > wear mostly black (I'm kidding here). But would I be able to open my > curtains? that might be a landmark day....
> Are they good windows? Do they really help? To what degree? What do y'all > think?
> Thanks in advance,
> Mary Hi Mair,
Those look like quality windows. Linda and I put in similar last summer. We leave the drapes open more than we did prior to the upgrade. Lind isn't super sensitive to the UV so I won't say how much it will help. It will help some. If It were me I wouldn't sit in the direct sunlight for long periods of time. Still I'd open up those curtains now and then. Enjoy.
Yeah, it sounds like the new landlord is a good thing.
Timothy
Cynthia Ward - 28 Jan 2006 12:26 GMT I am happy your new landlord is so nice. make's all the difference. We will have the keys to our new place on the first I can't wait. The man is so nice said do what you need we wanted to put a cat door in and he is fine with that. And there is a closet in living room with no door so we want to put shelves so looks like a book case he loved that idea. John is going to build me a ramp because it is about 5 feet off the ground and steps are hard. So it is nice to have someone that is so agreeable. Good luck with the windows. We are putting the solar screens all around the windows are good the screens will just add that extra help. Still can't believe he didn't want pet deposit. We will get there just before the Herons start nesting. I love that. He said there were 28 pairs just on the 2 streets where the house is the whole island is a bird sanctuary. I love that. And if you cut a tree it has to be a dead tree and you have to plant a new one right away. Anyway enjoy your new landlord some can be difficult. I would move Wed. if physically able but can't and of course sunday is Super bowl sunday plus today we are moving my sister in law who thinks moving means the people moving you do the packing and moving no one likes moving her. So we hate asking our nephew's to move us a week or 2 weeks later plus all ours has to go up stairs )0: John has a friend at work that will help but not till the week after Super bowl
>...not to be confused with the computer software... > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > Beverley - 28 Jan 2006 13:54 GMT Oh, are those windows going to make a big difference! Wish we could put them in this old house. (Historic commission will not allow them.)
I don't think I'd sit in the sunlight streaming through but to be able to allow the light in would be wonderful.
If my memory serves me correctly and it probably doesn't there are two harmful lights, UV and UB? This is only going to eliminate one of them but does the other automatically become reduced as it passes through glass?
Maybe J will jump in here and straighten us out. She so good at this stuff. Bev
> ...not to be confused with the computer software... > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Mary William R Thompson - 28 Jan 2006 14:21 GMT > If my memory serves me correctly and it probably doesn't there are two > harmful lights, UV and UB? This is only going to eliminate one of them but > does the other automatically become reduced as it passes through glass? UV-A, UV-B and UV-C (also know as EUV, for Extreme Ultra-Violet).
When you look at a rainbow, you're looking at the visible part of the electromagnetic spectrum. If I could do anything fancy with text, I'd lay out the colors, but the spectrum looks like this:
(radio waves)(microwaves)(infrared)(red)(orange)(yellow)(green)(blue)(indigo)(violet)(UVA)(UVB)(UVC)(X-rays)(gamma rays)
<--- (least amount of energy at this end)--*--(more energy at this end)--->
If your eyes could see infrared and UV, a rainbow would look wider than normal.
UV-A is the least energetic, longest wavelength of UV light. It's the next "color" of the spectrum, just beyond violet. It passes through glass.
UV-B is a more energetic part of the UV spectrum. Glass blocks it, but it will pass through quartz (as in "quartz-halogen lamps".)
UV-C is the most energetic form of UV light; the next step beyond them is soft X-rays. UV-C is part of sunlight, but it's blocked by the atmosphere. It's only a problem if you're in outer space and aren't inside a space ship or wearing a space suit--in which case you have bigger problems than light.
--Bill Thompson
Mary Rawle - 28 Jan 2006 15:32 GMT Hey, you're up on your physics! Are those C-rays going to be a problem with our depleting ozone layer? or is that something else?
And thanks, what you said just clarifies what the window brochure demonstrates in pictures. Also it shows light going through the glass and heat bouncing off... that seems like an engery efficient mechanism, but isn't that "greenhouse effect" as well?
Thanks in Advance
Mary Rawle
>> If my memory serves me correctly and it probably doesn't there are two >> harmful lights, UV and UB? This is only going to eliminate one of them [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > --Bill Thompson J - 28 Jan 2006 17:13 GMT http://www.energy.state.md.us/energysources/energyefficiency/residential/windows.htm ENERGY EFFICIENCY for RESIDENTIAL Windows
Expensive new windows have a limited potential for reducing your energy bill. Even if you replaced single-pane wood windows with the smartest windows tested, you would see only a modest drop in heating and cooling costs. But you may need new windows because you have remodeled or because the old windows are past their prime. Then it makes sense to choose durable windows that keep out wind and water and that offer high thermal performance.
An old window, such as a pane of glass in a wood frame, lets heat escape through the glass itself and through gaps and cracks in the frame. A double-glazed (insulated glass) window with a frame of vinyl or wood clad in aluminum or vinyl is a smart window. The new frame and the extra pane of glass cut heat loss. Smarter still is the window made with special glass panes coated to optimize your home's heat in winter: double glass with inert gas between the panes, or a heat-blocking film sandwiched between the glass. You also can make a dumb window smarter with weather-stripping and caulking, or add a storm window--either a permanent one or a temporary one. But what if you need to replace the window because the frame has deteriorated or because you are remodeling?
Here are some tips:
Window-shopping: Frame
The frame has a significant effect on a window's thermal performance, price, and upkeep. Wood frames, plain or clad in vinyl or aluminum, tend to be more expensive than all vinyl. Plain wood, of course, needs to be painted. Clad wood requires minimal maintenance.
Aluminum is a good heat conductor. Even an aluminum-framed window that is "thermally broken," with insulation between the interior and exterior parts, conducts more heat than does vinyl-framed or wood-framed windows. In cold weather, heat inside the house travels readily through the frame to the outdoors making the indoor side of the window feel cold to the touch. In a temperate climate, an aluminum frame may be a practical choice, but it won't offer the best thermal protection in cold winters.
Better quality vinyl windows have welded corners. Other windows may have corners that are screwed together. These are best avoided since they are less likely to be airtight and watertight, and the corners may start to pull apart after being exposed to heat and cold. Window Shopping: Glass
The glass you choose affects a window's price and performance:
Single-pane
In cold climates and hot ones, single-pane windows are best reserved for garages and other spaces that don't require heating or cooling. However, single-panes may be adequate in areas with brief heating and air-conditioning seasons. Double-pane
Most new homes have this type. It consists of two sealed panes, usually separated by an aluminum spacer that includes a desiccant to keep moisture from condensing between the panes. Once moisture does condense between the panes, the only way to get rid of it is to replace the glass. Argon-filled
In a regular double-glazed window, air fills the gap between the panes. A step up in thermal performance and price are windows filled with an inert gas, usually argon. Argon-filled glazing achieves its optimum performance with a half-inch space between panes. Air-filled windows perform best with a space of one-half to one inch.
Low-e glass
Low-e, shorthand for low-emissivity, refers to a coating that alters the way the glass transmits visible and invisible light. Much of the sun's radiant energy passes through ordinary glass and warms the objects in a room. In the winter, a warm room re-radiates energy back through the window to the outdoors as long-wave infrared radiation. Some experts say that such long-wave infrared accounts for as much as 60 percent of the heat lost through a window. A low-e coating helps reduce heat loss in the winter and heat gain in the summer by blocking nearly all the long-wave infrared. Some low-e coatings, designed for hot climates or southern exposures, reduce the buildup of heat from the sun. Other low-e coatings meant for cold climates allow more of the sun's warmth into the house.
Triple-pane
Triple-pane windows provide better insulating ability than a plain double-pane, but few manufacturers offer them because they are heavy and costly. Suspended-film
These are used by some window manufacturers and are a variation of the triple-pane. It sandwiches a polyester film between two pieces of glass. The film, which has a low-e coating, provides extra insulation without adding significantly to the double-pane window's weight and thickness. Window-shopping: Numbers Thermal Performance
Most manufacturers use the term "U-value" as a measure of insulating ability. We've used the more familiar R-value (the U-value divided into the number 1). Some manufacturers quote numbers that are supposed to tell you how well a window retains heat. The makers have different ways to test windows or report the results, so the numbers are difficult to compare. Only California now requires windows to be certified according to a standard test method developed by the National Fenestration Rating Council.
Durability
Glass makers participating in a program run by the Insulated Glass Certification Council subject insulated glass to tests that expose the glazing and its seals to heat, cold, and water. Glazing that passes three test segments earns a "CBA" mark which is etched on a corner of the glass or stamped on the edge of the spacer. Models with a "CB" have passed two identical tests; and models marked "C" have passed one test.
Shading Coefficient
Literature for some windows lists a shading coefficient--a measure of the window's ability to control the amount of sunlight that passes through. Low numbers provide more shade; higher numbers, less shade. Floridians, whose cooling bills are taxed by the summer sun, should look for a low shading coefficient. Northerners, who want to make the most of the sun's warmth in winter, should look for a high shading coefficient.
Daylight Transmission
Low-e coatings and similar treatments can affect the amount of light entering a room. Some manufacturers provide a "visible light" or "daylight transmission" number to help you compare different types of glazing. Untreated double-pane windows typically admit about 82 percent of visible light; low-e glass emit no more than 79 percent. But numbers like those may be hard to relate to real life.
If you think new windows might block too much sunlight, ask the retailer whether you can take a sample of the glass home.
William R Thompson - 29 Jan 2006 09:17 GMT > Hey, you're up on your physics! Are those C-rays going to be a problem > with our depleting ozone layer? or is that something else? UV-C is absorbed by regular oxygen as well as by ozone, so ozone depletion shouldn't be a problem there.
> And thanks, what you said just clarifies what the window brochure > demonstrates in pictures. Also it shows light going through the glass and > heat bouncing off... that seems like an energy efficient mechanism, but > isn't that "greenhouse effect" as well? Yes; that's how greenhouses work. Window glass reflects most infrared light, which is radiated heat.
--Bill Thompson
J - 28 Jan 2006 16:06 GMT William R Thompson wrote:
> > If my memory serves me correctly and it probably doesn't there are two > > harmful lights, UV and UB? This is only going to eliminate one of them but [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > aren't inside a space ship or wearing a space suit--in which case you > have bigger problems than light. 1) What do you know about these plastic shiedls, Bill?
2) Could you please post all this PDF (under new topic "Skin (Cutaneous) Lupus)" ? Include the source , please. J
http://www.milupus.org/pdf/Cutaneous%20handout.pdf What are the environmental triggers? Photosensitivity (sensitivity to light and other forms of radiation) is a major factor in the induction of most skin lupus. It is extremely important to recognize this and realize that this means an adjustment in lifestyle, not just the use of sunscreen. Photosensitivity may occur 365 days a year, on cloudy as well as sunny days. Ultraviolet radiation that affects lupus is divided into UVA and UVB. The UVB rays are those that we normally associate with sunburn and tans. The UVA rays penetrate more deeply into the skin and do not cause redness or burn. Therefore, they are more insidious and less likely to be noted by you as the trigger for your lupus.
Furthermore, UVA rays are present winter and summer, from dusk until dawn. It is imperative to reduce your exposure to these rays by limiting unnecessary outdoor activity, wearing double layers of clothing, wide brimmed hats, or special sun protective clothing, wearing a broad-spectrum UVA-UVB protective sunscreen every day all year round, preferably SPF 30, and reapply frequently. UVA rays penetrate through window glass, are generated by halogen and fluorescent bulbs, and are emitted from CRT computer screens. Make sure your windows have plastic shields in them (most thermal windows do), use fluorescent and halogen fixtures that are plastic encased, and use a polarizing screen over your computer's CRT. If you are on any medications such as diuretics (water pills), antibiotics, anti-inflammatory pills, hormones (including birth control pills) that may increase photosensitivity, alert your doctor and be especially careful.
Smoking has recently been shown to be a factor in skin lupus and smoke cessation should be undertaken with the help of your doctor to ensure that it is successful. Secondary smoke should also be avoided. Eating a healthy, balanced diet is also very important. Alternative medicines and supplements should be discussed with your doctor. Beware of the many unsupported claims on the internet. They can be dangerous if interpreted without the advice of your doctor.
ANDREW G. FRANKS, JR., M.D., F.A.C.P. Clinical Professor of Dermatology Attending in Rheumatology Chief, Connective Tissue Disease Clinic New York University School of Medicine
William R Thompson - 29 Jan 2006 09:10 GMT > William R Thompson wrote:
>> UV-C is part of sunlight, but it's blocked by >> the atmosphere. It's only a problem if you're in outer space and >> aren't inside a space ship or wearing a space suit--in which case you >> have bigger problems than light. And it turns out that there are UV-C generators that are used to sterilize water, processed foods and surfaces. See
http://www.lenntech.com/will1.htm
That would make me careful around any sterilizing gizmo that uses UV light. Okay, it would make me run for cover.
> 1) What do you know about these plastic shields, Bill? Not much. They're supposed to be highly efficient at reducing UV levels. If I did the math right, they reduce sunlight's UV levels to the equivalent of what you'd get from those forty-watt fluorescent tubes. A friend in Australia told me he had a problem with them. Plastic degrades under sunlight, and after a year or so the plastic had lost a lot of its efficiency. It may last longer under less-intense sunlight, but I'd want to check its reliability every so often. I haven't seen a window-film site that mentions this degradation.
--Bill Thompson
J - 28 Jan 2006 16:14 GMT > Maybe J will jump in here and straighten us out. She so good at this stuff. I wish BJ was here. They renovated an area of their home and replaced windows so she would be safe. I don't know windows enough to say really. But thanks for asking. Hugs J
Wende - 29 Jan 2006 02:07 GMT we recently replaced our windows with double paned glass that is Low E, and does't allow the uv rays in the house. Multipaned,"lights" are in between the two panes Which makes them look like they have multipanes. They also have some kind of gas in the middle of them. They are very well sealed, and insulated. No more wind seeping around the windows. They are tinted, you cannot see into the house in the daytime. You can see some light from the outside at night but you cannot see into the house. I like them very much. They tilt in for cleaning, which is a nice feature. They double lock. Locks at the middle of the window, and the bottom. Also a nice safety feature. They are pricey, but worth the expense for us. We have no curtains on any of our windows. Just the plantation shutters, which we open in the daytime to let the natural light in the house. I hope you enjoy your new windows. Wende
> ...not to be confused with the computer software... > [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Mary
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