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JQ - 24 Aug 2005 17:12 GMT
Hi all,
I just received this article, drinking diet pop with Lupus could have
devastating effects!

Please read this:

Aspartame Poisoning

 In October of 2001, my sister started getting very sick. She  had
stomach spasms and she was having a hard time getting around. Walking
was  a  major chore. It took everything she had just to get out of bed;
she  was in  so much pain. By March 2002, she had undergone several
tissue  and muscle biopsies and was on 24 various prescription
medications. The  doctors  could  not determine what was wrong with
her. She was in so much  pain,  and  so sick...she just knew she was
dying. She put her house, bank  accounts,  life insurance, etc., in her
oldest daughters name, and made sure that  her  younger children were
to be taken care of. She also wanted  her  last  hooray,! so she
planned a trip to FL (basically in a wheelchair) for  March  22nd.

On March 19th I called her to ask how her most recent tests  went,
and she said they didn't find anything on the test, but they believe
she  had  MS. I recalled an article a friend of mine E-mailed to me and
I asked  my  sister if she drank diet pop? She told me that she did. As
a matter  of  fact, she was getting ready to crack one open that
moment...  I  told  her not to open it, and to stop drinking the diet
pop!!! I E-mailed  her  the  article my friend, a lawyer, had sent. My
sister called me within 32  hours  after our phone conversation and
told me she had stopped drinking the  diet pop AND she could walk!!!!
The muscle spasms went away. She said she didn't feel 100% but  she
sure  felt a lot better.She told me she was going to her doctor with
this  article  and would call me when she got home. Well, she called
me, and said her  doctor was amazed! He is going to call all of his MS
patients to  find  out if they consumed artificial sweeteners of any
kind... In a  nutshell  she  was being poisoned by the Aspartame in the
diet soda... and literally dying  a slow  and miserable death. When she
got to FL March 22nd, all she had to take was one  pill,  and that was
a pill for the Aspartame poisoning! She is well on her way to  a
complete recovery... and she is walking!!! No wheelchair!!! This
article saved her life.

If it says "SUGAR FREE" on the  label,  DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!
I have spent several days lecturing at the  WORLD ENVIRONMENTAL
CONFERENCE on ASPARTAME marketed as 'NutraSweet,'  'Equal', and
'Spoonful. In the keynote address by the EPA, it was  announced that in
the United States 2001 there is an epidemic of  multiple sclerosis and
systemic lupus. It was difficult to determine exactly  what toxin was
causing this to be rampant.  I stood up and said that I was there to
lecture on exactly  that  subject. I will explain why Aspartame is so
dangerous: When the  temperature  of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees
F, the wood alcohol in ASPARTAME  converts to formaldehyde and then to
formic acid, which in turn causes  metabolic acidosis. Formic acid is
the poison found in the sting of  fire  ants. The methanol toxicity
mimics, among other conditions, multiple  sclerosis and systemic lupus.
Many people were being diagnosed in  error  Although multiple sclerosis
is not a death sentence... methanol  toxicity  is!  Systemic lupus has
become almost as rampant as multiple  sclerosis,  especially with Diet
Coke and Diet Pepsi drinkers. The victim usually does  not know that
the Aspartame is the culprit. He or she continues its use; irritating
the lupus to such a degree that it may become a  life-threatening
condition. We have seen patients with systemic lupus become
asymptotic, once  taken off diet sodas. In cases of those diagnosed
with Multiple Sclerosis,  (when in reality, the disease is methanol
toxicity), most of the  symptoms  disappear.  We've seen many cases
where vision loss returned and hearing  loss improved markedly.  This
also applies to cases of tinnitus and fibromyalgia.  During a  lecture,
I said, "If you are using ASPARTAME(NutraSweet, Equal,  Spoonful,
etc.) and you suffer from fibromyalgia symptoms, spasms, shooting
pains,  numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches,
tinnitus,  joint pain, unexplainable depression, anxiety attacks,
slurred speech,  blurred vision, or memory loss...you probably have
ASPARTAME poisoning!"  People were jumping up during the lecture
saying, "I have  some of  these symptoms. Is it reversible?" Yes!Yes!
Yes! STOP drinking diet  sodas  and be alert for Aspartame food labels!
Many products are fortified with  it!!!   This is a serious problem.
Dr. Esparto (one of my speakers)  remarked that so many people seem to
be symptomatic for MS and during  his  recent visit to a hospice; a
nurse stated that six of her friends, who were  heavy  Diet Coke
addicts, had all been diagnosed with MS. This is  beyond  coincidence!
Diet soda is NOT a diet product! It is a chemically altered,  multiple
SODIUM (salt) and ASPARTAME containing product that actually  makes you
crave carbohydrates. It is far more likely to make you GAIN  weight!
These products also contain formaldehyde, which stores in the  fat
cells, particularly in the hips and thighs. Formaldehyde is an
absolute  toxin and is used primarily to preserve "tissue specimens."
Many  products  we use every day contain this chemical but we SHOULD
NOT store it IN our  body!!!  Dr. H.J. Roberts stated in his lectures
that once free of the  "diet  products" and with no significant
increase in exercise; his patients  lost  an  average of 19 pounds over
a trial period.  Aspartame is especially dangerous for diabetics. We
found that some  physicians, who believed that they had a patient with
retinopathy, in fact,  had symptoms caused by Aspartame. The Aspartame
drives the blood  sugar  out  of control. Thus diabetics may suffer
acute memory loss due to the  fact  that aspartic acid and
phenylalanine are NEUROTOXIC when taken without  the  other amino acids
necessary for a good balance. Treating diabetes is all  about BALANCE.
Especially with diabetics, the Aspartame passes the  blood/brain
barrier and it then deteriorates the neurons of the brain;  causing
various levels of brain damage, seizures, depression, manic
depression, panic attacks, uncontrollable anger and rage.

Consumption  of Aspartame causes these same symptoms in non-diabetics,
as  well.Documentation and observation also reveal that thousands of
children  diagnosed with ADD and AHD have had complete turnarounds in
their  behavior when these chemicals have been removed from their
diet.  So called "behavior modification prescription drugs" (Ritalin
and  others) are no longer needed. Truth be told, they were never
NEEDED in  the  first place! Most of these children were being
"poisoned" on a daily  basis  with the very foods that were "better for
them than sugar."

It is also suspected that the Aspartame in thousands of pallets  of
diet Coke and diet Pepsi consumed by men and women fighting in  the
Gulf  War, may be partially to blame for the well-know Gulf War
Syndrome.  Dr. Roberts warns that it can cause birth defects, i.e.
mental  retardation, if taken at the time of conception and during
early  pregnancy.  Children are especially at risk for neurological
disorders  and  should NEVER be given artificial sweeteners. There are
many  different case  histories to relate of children suffering grand
mal seizures  and  other  neurological disturbances due to the use of
NutraSweet.

Unfortunately, it is not always easy to convince people that
Aspartame is to blame for their child's illness. Stevia,  which is a
sweet  herb, NOT A MANUFACTURED ADDITIVE, helps in the metabolism of
sugar,  which  would be ideal for diabetics. It has now been approved
as a  dietary  supplement by the FDA. It is known that for many years
the  FDA  outlawed  this "true sweet food," due to their loyalty to
MONSANTO Chemical  Company.
Books on this subject are available: EXCI TOTOXINS: THE TASTE  THAT
KILLS written by Dr. Russell Blayblock (Health Press 1-800-643-2665)
AND:  DEFENSE AGAINST ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE -written by DR H. J.
Roberts,
William R  Thompson - 24 Aug 2005 17:36 GMT
> Hi all,
> I just received this article, drinking diet pop with Lupus could have
> devastating effects!

Or not.  This item has been floating around for years.  See:

http://www.snopes.com/toxins/aspartame.asp

--Bill Thompson
KCat - 24 Aug 2005 19:16 GMT
hi... j.

as William Pointed out, this has been circulating for many years and there
is very little real, peer reviewed evidence that this is a problem.  I think
some people are sensitive to these sweeteners but not in the way the article
claims.  Some folks get headaches from them supposedly.  I don't drink the
stuff.  I prefer sugar (which also gives me headaches sometimes!)

so - i approach this one the way i would approach any dietary issue -
moderation and monitoring.  don't overdo it, and do monitor your reaction to
foods and additives.

btb, my husband has been drinking diet sodas at a rate of probably 4 litres
a day (no kidding) since I've known him and he's healthy as a horse.  there
are two things common in the chronic illness world - scare tactics and
miracle cures.  Both are rarely supported by science.

best,
kcat
JQ - 24 Aug 2005 19:25 GMT
Yes you're probably right. I too used to drink so much soda. But i have
stopped since June and I have noticed a huge difference in my health
already in many ways. I suppose everyone does react differently of
course. Just good info I thought I'd forward along to take into
consideration.
All the best, JQ
William R  Thompson - 25 Aug 2005 06:33 GMT
> hi... j.

> as William pointed out, this has been circulating for many years and there
> is very little real, peer reviewed evidence that this is a problem.  I
> think
> some people are sensitive to these sweeteners but not in the way the
> article
> claims.  Some folks get headaches from them supposedly.

Phenylketonuria can also be a problem with aspartame.  There's more
about this matter at

http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/aspartame/aspartameh.html

This page deals with aspartame issues, including the methanol question
raised in JQ's post.  It's pointed out that methanol (also known as methyl
alcohol and wood alcohol) is a common trace chemical in other foods.
Volume for volume, tomato juice and grape juice contain more
methanol than a soft drink with aspartame.  It's pointed out that
methanol is toxic only in large amounts, at least ten grams.  You'd
have to drink about four hundred cans at one sitting to get that much
methanol.  That's about 40 US gallons or 150 liters, and if you
drink that much of anything at one time, you've got more serious problems
than wood-alcohol poisoning.

> btb, my husband has been drinking diet sodas at a rate of probably 4
> litres
> a day (no kidding) since I've known him and he's healthy as a horse.

Four liters/day is . . . multiply by a variable constant . . . check the
finagle
factor . . . divide by furlongs per fortnight . . . take the natural
logarithm . . .
equal to drinking about four big bottles per day, or ten twelve-ounce cans.

> there
> are two things common in the chronic illness world - scare tactics and
> miracle cures.  Both are rarely supported by science.

Excellent point!

--Bill Thompson
KCat - 25 Aug 2005 17:54 GMT
> > hi... j.
>
> Four liters/day is . . . multiply by a variable constant . . . check the
> finagle > factor . . . divide by furlongs per fortnight . . . take the
natural
> logarithm . . .> equal to drinking about four big bottles per day, or ten
twelve-ounce > cans.

Let's see, we buy at least 10 2-litre bottles a week.  I think it's more
like 12.  He goes to the store 2X a week and I put away at least 6 bottles
in the pantry each time.  I drink none of it.  And then we have to factor in
the 16 oz bottle on the way to work, the 16 oz bottle at lunch, and the 16
oz bottle on the way home from work (1.25 hour drive).  So I'm guessing that
in a *good* week it's slightly less than 4 litres total per day.  On
weekends he drinks even more.  I could be slightly high with the estimate -
but not much.  And on the days he mows the lawn - the number goes up again
because he has to "replenish lost fluids" and won't drink water.  It's all
he drinks btb.  no tea, coffee, very little plain water, no milk, no
juices...

don't know how he does it.  fortunately he splits it between the caffeinated
and non-caffeinated.
Beverley - 26 Aug 2005 02:46 GMT
My sister and her daughter cannot drink or use anything with artificial
sweeteners in them. My niece has the biggest problem it makes her very
sleepy. Her doctors have said don't drink it as she might find herself not
waking up one day. Her problem is not singular and she has a true
allergy-like response to it. Thank goodness I don't have that problem as I
live on diet colas, sweet n low in my coffee, etc..
Bev

> hi... j.
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> best,
> kcat
dropbear1@gmail.com - 25 Aug 2005 02:35 GMT
If artificial sweeteners caused disease, virtually every American,
European, and other person living in an industrialized country would be
sick. And the lawyers would still be rich.

As somebody who does research, I hate it when people draw conclusions
from limited data, experience, or single examples. A correlation does
not mean there is a connection or cause and effect relationship.
Andy - 25 Aug 2005 10:03 GMT
>If artificial sweeteners caused disease, virtually every American,
>European, and other person living in an industrialized country would be
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>from limited data, experience, or single examples. A correlation does
>not mean there is a connection or cause and effect relationship.

It has been conclusively proved by many experiments in all parts of the
world that the beating of drums restores the sun after an eclipse...
Signature

Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group]
See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

Ruth Tay - 29 Aug 2005 03:17 GMT
> >If artificial sweeteners caused disease, virtually every American,
> >European, and other person living in an industrialized country would be
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> It has been conclusively proved by many experiments in all parts of the
> world that the beating of drums restores the sun after an eclipse...

For conclusive proof that chemical sweeteners are not good for you---
My dog will not drink any of my diet drinks.  Iced tea is fine in a
glass   not diet drinks.  My dog is the expert      ruth
KCat - 29 Aug 2005 17:12 GMT
> For conclusive proof that chemical sweeteners are not good for you---
> My dog will not drink any of my diet drinks.  Iced tea is fine in a
> glass   not diet drinks.  My dog is the expert      ruth

will she drink other soft drinks?

Could be she just doesn't like the tickly bubbles.  i know I don't.  which
is why I rarely drink them.
Andy - 29 Aug 2005 18:58 GMT
>> For conclusive proof that chemical sweeteners are not good for you---
>> My dog will not drink any of my diet drinks.  Iced tea is fine in a
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Could be she just doesn't like the tickly bubbles.  i know I don't.  which
>is why I rarely drink them.

"She gets no kick from champagne"...
Signature

Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group]
See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

KCat - 25 Aug 2005 17:55 GMT
> If artificial sweeteners caused disease, virtually every American,
> European, and other person living in an industrialized country would be
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> from limited data, experience, or single examples. A correlation does
> not mean there is a connection or cause and effect relationship.

heh... "lies, damn lies, and statistics"  - yeah - i was in immunology
research for a while (officially).  amazing to see how numbers are tweaked
to get to the numbers you want with only a few data points.
 
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