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Diane Fblooms - 16 Mar 2005 16:06 GMT
I just got a massage ball, I have many things to massage, like those
rollers with handles on them and I use racket balls that work well but I
just bought something that works better than what I had.  With the
racket balls I some times had to lay on the floor to roll out something
that really hurt.  This you hold in the hand and it is in a holder so
you don't need to lay on the floor for it to roll.  Here is what I got,
it is called the Omni massage roller:
http://www.omnimassage.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=OM&Cate
gory_Code=OM


I have one area, my left shoulder that always give me trouble that I can
never work out completely to the point that I get neck pain and
headaches because of this. This ball is working the best so far.  I
haven't tried any electric massage on this so I don't know if they are
more helpful in any way.  If you use electric massages to work out pain
let me know, maybe I should get one of those too.

Diane

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Diane Fblooms - 26 Mar 2005 13:53 GMT
Just wanted to bring this to the top again because I just bought this
and it helped me get a knot out that has been causing headaches and neck
and shoulder pain for so long, even was causing numbness in my left arm
and hand.  I checked this morning and it feels almost normal in that
area after working on it for about a week.  just want others to know
about this roller.  I have others but this is the one that is the best
I've come across.

I still want to know if using an electric massager is helpful to any of
you.

Diane

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herbwormwood - 27 Mar 2005 10:19 GMT
> Just wanted to bring this to the top again because I just bought this
> and it helped me get a knot out that has been causing headaches and neck
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>
> Diane

Hi Diane,
I have a little hand held one called magic touch. It has a round pad for
massaging and is battery operated. A friend gave me it and I think it is
probably a bit cheap, it is plastic. It is battery operated. I find that
holding it gives me too much vibration in  my hand. Also it is difficult to
reach my back with it and thats where my neuralgia is. It is not a TENS
machine, they are used here for physiotherapy on our National Health Service
(UK free health care scheme).

I prefer ordinary massage with hands. Have you tried Olbas Oil? It is a
blend of oils which are a popular cold remedy. It is cooling and warming at
the same time.
You can buy it at http://www.springvalleyherbs.com/catalog.php?brand=000088
Diane Fblooms - 27 Mar 2005 11:35 GMT
No, I have not tried that oil, I'm careful about oils because I become
allergic to them one by one whether I eat them or apply them to my skin.
Oils are not my friends for sure.

Diane

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herbwormwood - 27 Mar 2005 14:49 GMT
> No, I have not tried that oil, I'm careful about oils because I become
> allergic to them one by one whether I eat them or apply them to my skin.
> Oils are not my friends for sure.
>
> Diane

Olbas Oil is potent stuff.  It is a mixture of cajuput, clove, eucalyptus,
juniper berry, menthol, mint, and wintergreen oils. What a shame you can't
use oils. I am using it at the moment for my cold. I put it in the bathwater
and in an aromatherapy burner so I can inhale it. My friend inhales it neat
out the bottle when he has sinus trouble. I have been using it since the mid
1980s. The friend who used homeopathy introduced it to me.
Diane Fblooms - 27 Mar 2005 15:47 GMT
Anything like blueice I can't put on my skin, it burns instead of cools.  

I can use oils if they are new to me but with the understanding that I
may not be able to use them for very long.  I think of oils as something
I may soon become allergic too.  I can't go near olive or soy oil to eat
them.  Soy is in everything packaged or canned just abouts.

Diane

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Andy - 27 Mar 2005 16:51 GMT
>Anything like blueice I can't put on my skin, it burns instead of cools.
>
>I can use oils if they are new to me but with the understanding that I
>may not be able to use them for very long.  I think of oils as something
>I may soon become allergic too.

Is it the special stuff in the oil, or the carrier oil itself? There
aren't all that many oils, so you may soon run out of options!

>I can't go near olive or soy oil to eat
>them.  Soy is in everything packaged or canned just abouts.

And in almost all meat substitutes, cheaper mince (=ground in USA),
Asian food etc etc.
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Diane Fblooms - 27 Mar 2005 20:09 GMT
One reason oils bother is my GP, we don't digest fats well.  Why I have
problems with it on my skin I'm not sure except I become allergic to
anything put on my skin over and over.  I can't wear contacts because I
became allergic to the cleaning solutions one by one.  Just a highly
allergic person to everything just abouts.

The olive oil I had a reaction to was the Purest type of olive oil.  I
don't know if that answers your question or not because I don't know
what carrier oil means.  The other oils I became allergic too were pure
oils too.  I am having problems right now with milk and butter as well.
The reaction to soy was from soy sauce in one product and the oil in
another.

Diane

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Andy - 27 Mar 2005 21:21 GMT
>One reason oils bother is my GP, we don't digest fats well.  Why I have
>problems with it on my skin I'm not sure except I become allergic to
>anything put on my skin over and over.  I can't wear contacts because I
>became allergic to the cleaning solutions one by one.

Could be the preservative - several people have that trouble with eye
drops.

> Just a highly
>allergic person to everything just abouts.
>
>The olive oil I had a reaction to was the Purest type of olive oil.  I
>don't know if that answers your question or not because I don't know
>what carrier oil means.

What I was meaning is that "essential oils" such as distilled deadly
nightshade or essence of skunk are extremely concentrated and also
extremely expensive. To get 0.1ml of that spread evenly over your skin
it has to be diluted in some other oil (or emulsified with whatever into
water). The other oil is going to be olive, rapeseed, sunflower or
similar - and there aren't all that many. So if you became allergic to
sunflower oil, say, you'd react to anything which has been bulked out
with it.

>The other oils I became allergic too were pure
>oils too.  I am having problems right now with milk and butter as well.
>The reaction to soy was from soy sauce in one product and the oil in
>another.

Hecky thump!
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herbwormwood - 28 Mar 2005 09:36 GMT
> One reason oils bother is my GP, we don't digest fats well.  Why I have
> problems with it on my skin I'm not sure except I become allergic to
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> don't know if that answers your question or not because I don't know
> what carrier oil means.  The other oils I became allergic too were pure

A carrier oil is a bland oil without medicinal or aromatherapy properties.
Such as almond oil.  They are relatively cheap and used as carriers due to
their inoffensive nature and they help the potent oils absorb into your body.
They "carry" the treatment oil into you.
The strong medicinal oils  oils are concentrated from the plant and usually
are smelly, for example menthol or rose. They have  many properties,
documented in herbal lore, and many have been used for thousands of years.
Just a few drops are added to the carrier oil. Adding too much can be
dangerous. They can also be quite expensive.
The aromatherapy oils usually come in 10 ml bottles. Carrier oils come in
larger bottles.
A good aromatherapist /herbalist will take a medical history from a person
wanting treatment and screen out oils which could cause problems, and not use
them.  
Oils vary in quality widely. Unfortunately the better ones tend to be much
more expensive. There is a choice between certified organic and non organic
too. Unfortunately In the US many crops including soya are genetically
modified, soya in particular. Organic standards regulate the presence of
genetically modified ingredients in the product. But that could be a whole
new discussion!

> oils too.  I am having problems right now with milk and butter as well.
> The reaction to soy was from soy sauce in one product and the oil in
> another.
>  
> Diane
 
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