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Andrea Twitty - 22 Sep 2004 22:44 GMT
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My name is Andrea Twitty and I live in Jacksonville, Florida.  I have not
been in here for awhile.  I guess I am still in denial about me having
lupus. Yes, I am still in denial after 8 years.  The last 3 years have been
plagued with health problems.  I got a taste of reality yesterday when I had
to be rush to the emergency room due to lupus complications.  I guess I am
having a hard time with understanding how my life is different and not
wanting to accept that.  I am trying.  I have joined the local LEA chapter
and I start posting more in here.  I feel that everytime I start to do
better-something happens and I am knock back 50 steps.  I just started back
working and now I have to pull back again.  When does your life becomes your
own?  I am trying so hard, but it feels like it is in vain sometimes.  I'm
sorry I know this is supposed to be an uplifting place, but I just needed to
vent.  I want to keep fighting, but I am starting to run out of ways to
fight.  I just want a normal life -- Does this ever end?
BJ - 22 Sep 2004 23:20 GMT
Hi Andrea,
It is hard to get used to the idea that lupus is a fact of life. It affects
all of us differently. Some have it in a milder form, so things continue
along with only a few rough spots. For others it is not that simple. Perhaps
our idea of what is normal changes somewhat. I still have trouble being
satisfied with the changes that I have had to make, and the loss of
abilities. I think I have learned to enjoy the good times more and not take
them for granted. I am glad that you have decided to post. Don't worry about
venting here. That is something we all do. Talking about our tough times
helps as well. I am sorry that I don't have more to offer in the way of
advice. I haven't really found the answers myself.
BJ-Sk. Canada
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> vent.  I want to keep fighting, but I am starting to run out of ways to
> fight.  I just want a normal life -- Does this ever end?
Shelagh - 23 Sep 2004 03:56 GMT
Hi Andrea
yes, it is hard to keep on going while fighting this disease lupus.
Not one of us has found an answer and so we have this online support
news-group to turn to for some assistance from each other.
I do think you have the right idea in joining your local support group and I
know the research backs me up when I say that those patients who learn about
their illness and participate in their care with their doctors, as well as
in joining other patients in a support group situation, do much better with
regards to prognosis and longevity than do those who lie down and give up.

So just keep up the good fight, even when you are tired girl; and know that
you can rant and rave all you like right here... that we all do from time to
time!!
Be aware of your own body and all the twists and turns of the illness so you
can be prepared when a flare may be coming on... you will eventually be able
to 'predict' the small flares and to get to your doctor for treatment, with
any big ones before they get out of hand if you listen to your 'self' and
learn to 'read' your illness.
We are all individual in this illness and so none of us are exactly as the
other.
The best we can do for each other is to listen, empathize, sympathize and to
let each other know that we do care.
So I will leave you with that and hope that you will come and speak to us
again when you are not sure if you are heading in the right direction...
there is no wrong direction but sometimes just knowing someone else is in
your boat can make the way seem clearer.
Good luck!
hugs from Shelagh

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Deb - 23 Sep 2004 11:28 GMT
Hi there, I was only diagnosed in January, but looking back have probably
had Lupus for up to 10 years. I've learnt to live day by day, take the good
with the bad. I'm in the middle of a nursing degree at the moment ( just
been given a 6 month leave of absence c/o joint probs). I've dropped one day
at work which has helped; colleagues at work treat me 'normally' when I'm
well, and panic when I'm not. I work in a small hospice in the UK, very
supportive. I feel really crap at the moment, but will be at work this
afternoon cos you don't like to let people down- hands on stuff will be out,
but there will be plenty of paper-work to catch up with, always is in
nursing. Went and had my hair done yesterday to get rid of the grey, looks
much better but unfortunately I've reacted to the dye, can't win!
Still waiting for rheumatology appointment, but occupational health
department are onto it.
Sorry, I was aiming to give you a boost, and now seem to have winged on a
bit,
DEBI
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> vent.  I want to keep fighting, but I am starting to run out of ways to
> fight.  I just want a normal life -- Does this ever end?
Andrea Twitty - 23 Sep 2004 21:22 GMT
Thank you all for writing in.  I feel better knowing that I am not alone in
feeling helpless sometimes.  Today, I feel better (mentally) than I did
yesterday.  One day at a time, right.  I am learning.  Your words have been
inspirational to me and I will keep fighting the "good" fight.  Thanks for
your support....I really needed it.
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> fight.  I just want a normal life -- Does this ever end?
BJ - 23 Sep 2004 22:44 GMT
Hi Andrea,
I am glad that your day is going a little better. Stick around. We all need
each other and someone can always listen on those bad days.
BJ-Sk. Canada
> Thank you all for writing in.  I feel better knowing that I am not alone in
> feeling helpless sometimes.  Today, I feel better (mentally) than I did
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> > vent.  I want to keep fighting, but I am starting to run out of ways to
> > fight.  I just want a normal life -- Does this ever end?
KCat - 23 Sep 2004 22:52 GMT
> Opps.. Posted in the in the wrong spot..

Hi Andrea.  Bless your heart - i hope ya'll don't get hit with Jeanne...
doesn't look good.  Ivan has doubled back (as you probably well know) and is
now taking aim at my area.  But i imagine it will just be some heavy rains
here. <fingers crossed>

> My name is Andrea Twitty and I live in Jacksonville, Florida.  I have not
> been in here for awhile.  I guess I am still in denial about me having
> lupus. Yes, I am still in denial after 8 years.

I understand denial.  There are pros and cons to denial.  One shouldn't
"give in" to the disease and let it control their life.  But to ignore the
boundaries our bodies set is another matter altogether.  I've seen the ill
effects of both extremes and so I try to meet this monster somewhere in the
middle.

> wanting to accept that.  I am trying.

I have found that I can give up certain things that others have trouble
giving up but I have replaced them with things I can do.  Examples: I can't
get out on a bright sunny day.  My freckles are almost gone after 35+ years
of 'em.  And I miss 'em.  I can't walk the mall with my daughter and I have
to sleep more than the average person.  But... I can go out at night and use
a telescope and look at the stars (no UV exposure there) and I can have fun
with my hobbies (stitching, calligraphy, pen & ink) and so on.  Try to look
for things that bring you joy that will help you cope with the things that
might make you sick.

I'm a big advocate of  watching UV exposure.  I think because many patients
don't see the immediate effects of it (it can take a few days for the flare
to set in after excessive exposure) they don't connect their activities with
the pain.  Not all lupies have UV sensitivity but it's a very high
percentage.

>When does your life becomes your
> own?

To be honest, I don't think it ever is or was.  But that's a philisophical
discussion rather than medical. :)

> sorry I know this is supposed to be an uplifting place, but I just needed to
> vent.  I want to keep fighting, but I am starting to run out of ways to
> fight.  I just want a normal life -- Does this ever end?

well - this is a place of support.  And that means that whatever *you* need
is what we want to provide.  If you need to vent, then feel free to do so.
Everyone here understands that completely!

Normal life.  heh... when I married my second husband he asked me what I
wanted and I said "a normal life" - at the time I was dealing with the
aftermath of a nasty divorce from a drunken, bipolar jerk.  (his bipolar
disorder is not what made him a jerk) and though I had a lot of pain I put
it off to stress and the fact that I have scoliosis.  hubby said he had
every intention of providing that normal life. then i got sick.

someone entirely well-meaning once told me that Lupus is a "character
building" disease.  I don't want no stinkin' character!  But.. the truth is
that I have gained a great deal of understanding and tolerance for others as
a result of what I've gone through.  But I still think I could have gained
that a better way. :-)

if you haven't read the FAQ yet, please do.  There's a section in there re:
the things we can do to reduce the effects of flares and of course learning
our own boundaries and living by them within reason is important.  Don't
curl up in the dark and hide from life - but don't spit in the face of the
disease either.  You said you've started working again - what do you do and
what is the physical environment like?  Do  you know if you are
photosensitive and if so is it possible your work environment is
contributing to the problem?  There are steps employers can take if so (such
as providing covers for fluorescent lights) and steps you can take to reduce
your reactions (using sunblock at all times.)  These are just questions and
since I don't know you I could be way off-base about your particular case.

Welcome to ASL and never feel that you can't express yourself here.  The
site is not here to be uplifting - we are here to uplift each other and be
uplifted when we need it.

blessed be,
kcat
Andy - 24 Sep 2004 11:02 GMT
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>I'm a big advocate of  watching UV exposure.  I think because many patients
>don't see the immediate effects of it (it can take a few days for the flare
>to set in after excessive exposure) they don't connect their activities with
>the pain.  Not all lupies have UV sensitivity but it's a very high
>percentage.

Oddly, that is *precisely* what a dermatologist who spoke to our group
said!

Incidentally, I asked him about the "Wallmart effect" and he said he
didn't know of any medical evidence for it. Does anyone else? Or is it
"merely" anecdotal?
Signature

Andy Taylor [Chair, N E Lupus Group]
See http://www.northeastlupus.org.uk for more!

J - 24 Sep 2004 13:17 GMT
> []
> >I'm a big advocate of  watching UV exposure.  I think because many patients
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> didn't know of any medical evidence for it. Does anyone else? Or is it
> "merely" anecdotal?

I wonder if these folks might? http://www.jan.wvu.edu/soar/lupus/lupusex.html
There's a number for those in the US to call to ask more information.
Maybe Bev or Janers (when they feel well enough) could look into it?

http://ard.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/abstract/53/6/396

http://www.lupusmn.org/Education/Articles/ManagingtheWorkDay.htm
Light sensitivity causes problems both indoors (where light to those who are
sensitive to fluorescent light or ultraviolet light through windows) and outdoors
(where light can cause skin rashes and fatigue to the point of disease activity).
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J
Shelagh - 25 Sep 2004 01:34 GMT
"Andy" <andy@kitzbuhel.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> Oddly, that is *precisely* what a dermatologist who spoke to our group
> said!
> Incidentally, I asked him about the "Wallmart effect" and he said he
> didn't know of any medical evidence for it. Does anyone else? Or is it
> "merely" anecdotal?

If you are discussing the uv lighting presence in most big dept. stores, eg:
walmart, I am here to testify that YES indeed they do affect my lupus very
adversely re photosensitivity, and I will flare within 2 minutes of being in
their stores under their lights, exhibiting a malar rash on my face as well
as discoid rashes on my neck/arms/hands and any other exposed areas (bare
feet in the summer <g>) ... Also I get a systemic weakness and possible
headache both of which can last for a couple of days... medical evidence?
for me I don't need a doctor to tell me yes or no about the stores... I go
on past experiences LOL.
I honestly feel as if I should cover up totally with a hat and sunglasses
even for a 5 minute 'run' in and out.... the stores are my 'enemy', and I
treat them as such... keeping them at a distance and only going near when an
emergency arises... thank god for retired husbands!!
~Shelagh~
 
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