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Beverley - 06 Aug 2004 02:12 GMT
Yep I'm in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I've figured out that
working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don't know
why. It's really not a high stress job - other than it is a job and one I'm
pretty sick of doing. So every day this week I've been hoping to get the
director, who happens to be a good friend and tell her I need to cut back my
hours. I figured I'd give her until Sept to find someone to replace me with
the hopes that when the new school year begins I'd only have to work a few
hours a month. No such luck.

I did have her the other day for a few minutes but she was so busy telling
me all about her plans for her big anniversary bash (50 years) that I didn't
get a chance to say anything. And I know she's not been feeling real well
this week. Well, she called this morning asking if I could come to work
early today and I said yes, after I get back from an appointment. Well,
after my appointment I got there and she was gone. She'd gone to the
doctor's office. That was no shock. When she did reappear it was with tears
in her eyes as she told me she has an intestinal blockage. (Her mom died of
colon cancer.) Anyway she was home only long enough to set a few thing in
motion and I guess pack a bag. She's having some sort of emergency surgery
in the morning. Guess that means I'm working 45 hours weeks for who knows
how long.

And I have a nasty painful earache!!!! I'm due back to the doctor's office I
think on Monday.
Bev
Cindy Mathes - 06 Aug 2004 14:24 GMT
Bev,
Will it never end sweetie...
You know that you have to take care of you..
Maybe after she recovers from her surgery, you can tell her and offer to
help her find someone to help..
And what did you say about this not being a high stress job...You work with
children....Okay...I know some people are made for that...I love my
grandchildren...
but I worked in a daycare when I was young...OH MY GOODNESS...
Very high stress. They keep you at a level of loving to be there with them
at one moment to Oh how I wish that were my child so that I could do bodily
harm the next.
Not that I ever would, but these are the emotions that you deal with
everyday...
Not to mention the parents of all these perfect children that never do
anything wrong...

I feel like after saying this I need to defend myself...
But I do love children, but when you get a group of children that learn to
push your buttons...Hmmm

Did I say how much I admire teachers. and those that do care for our
future(children)? Well I do. I have the upmost respect for them.

Hugs Bev
> Yep I'm in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I've figured out that
> working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don't know
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> think on Monday.
> Bev
Beverley - 07 Aug 2004 02:33 GMT
LOL You got it!!!! Yep I have two little partners in crime. Both are not
quite 3 YO and what one doesn't think of the other does. Then I have a
wanderer, got to keep a close eye on him all the time. Plus I have no clue
what he is saying. He comes up and tells me a whole stream of stuff and I
might be able to pick out one word. Two brand new 2 YO's and they have no
clue what is going on at any time. Then there is the 5 YO tattle-telling
whiner, he whines over everything. Oh, the list goes on and on.

Actually I don't get as caught up in what they do as I would have my own
children. I don't worry if the ketchup is down the front of them. I would
have died to think my child had been bathing in ketchup. LOL So when they do
things that would have driven me up a wall if they had been mine it just
doesn't have the same effect. I'm not saying I don't care about them but I
don't have the same sort of "personal stake" in them.

But my patience is worn thin by the time I've dealt with them all day and
often I come home to a grandchild to whom I will flat out tell not to bother
me as I have had enough kids for one day. So she's learned to leave me alone
for a while and not step on my nerves. Guess that is not being fair to the
kids all day long or the grandchild.

But at least these kids are little and you don't get what some of the school
age children have learned. I'm not dealing with a 12 YO with a foul mouth. I
don't know how teachers manage with some of the older kids. I've been hit
and bit but at least these kids can be picked up and put in time out. I
don't take a bunch of crap and they know it.

Mostly my job is to just love them and to protect them from themselves. Lots
of hugs, lots of cheers and high fives for jobs well done. I've got one
little guy almost tying his shoes by himself. Getting that one bunny ear to
go though the hole is the hardest part.

But the physical end of it is just too much. I went from a good paying job
as head gardener to this. This just fouls up my time. I need to spend it in
my house. I only have so much energy and I need to spend it in my house.

Ok, I'm whining!!
Bev

> Bev,
> Will it never end sweetie...
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> > think on Monday.
> > Bev
CP - 08 Aug 2004 16:06 GMT
<snip>

> But at least these kids are little and you don't get what some of the school
> age children have learned. I'm not dealing with a 12 YO with a foul mouth. I
> don't know how teachers manage with some of the older kids. I've been hit
> and bit but at least these kids can be picked up and put in time out. I
> don't take a bunch of crap and they know it.

High School teacher reporting in:
The younguns require physical energy.  The older teens require mental
energy!!  If one can ignore the verbal spouting and recognize the
stresses these kids are dealing with, they can be quite fun!  (Me, I
have a lot of respect for the Middle School teachers.  Middle schoolers
are at a confusing turning point in their lives.)

It's not the kids but the constant stress from the way our program is
run that wears me out!  Good teachers make the job look "easy" (because,
hey, we do spend all of our "free" time at home planning) so there seems
to be a mentality of "give them more work!"  Believe me, teaching ain't
easy!!  But it definitely has its rewards.

cp
Bruce - 06 Aug 2004 16:13 GMT
(((( BEV))))

ok , As me sees it here!
Looking after a gaggle of little ones is high stress as they are demanding
little creatures by nature.
Your b/p is your personal stress indicater , bottom number over 100 , you
are heading for stroke city , tis that simple.
Your friend the director , does she own the school or will she have a
replacement?
She must at this time stop and look after medical needs , like right now ,
with her family history. This she is doing as all the signs and symtems say
she must.
Bev , friendship aside you must do the same , your bod is showing you it's
signs , do not ignor them. Tis the same as Woman intuition , a built in
safety from our ancesters that to many modern women ignor     " gee nice
jogging at night by myself , but what is that weird feeling "   DUH !!

Bev I know you always think of others first , I guess this is why I sound so
blunt , sorry , I say it as I feel it ,if not I would be a bad freind to you
and me .

Bruce On. " my ex wife called me last Monday , she was at her mothers. When
I got there one look and I knew her mother was having mini TIA's . Even
being 5min. away and hyperventalating the O2 level to a high saturation , to
much damage done . We have to as of today start loking for a N/H for her. "

> Yep I'm in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I've figured out that
> working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don't know
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> think on Monday.
> Bev
BJ - 06 Aug 2004 16:20 GMT
Hi Bev,
Bruce has said it so well, as always. I know it is hard when it is a friend,
but I think you have to consider your own health. High b/p is nothing to
ignore. There are a lot of people who really care about you. Don't put your
own problems aside.
BJ-Sk. Canada
> (((( BEV))))
>
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> > think on Monday.
> > Bev
Cindy Mathes - 06 Aug 2004 20:07 GMT
Bruce,
Sounds like you could use a few prayers and good thoughts also...
Hugs Cindy
> (((( BEV))))
>
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> > think on Monday.
> > Bev
Shelagh - 06 Aug 2004 20:14 GMT
"Bruce" <rothnie2003@hotmail.com> wrote in message
<snip>
Bruce On. " my ex wife called me last Monday , she was at her
mothers. When
> I got there one look and I knew her mother was having mini TIA's . Even
> being 5min. away and hyperventalating the O2 level to a high saturation , to
> much damage done . We have to as of today start loking for a N/H for her. "
</snip>

Bruce I am sending good luck and well wishes to you, your wife
and your MIL.... what a terrible thing to have to deal with! I
know we all will have a decision like that at some time in our
life but I feel so bad for you and Marcia that it had to happen
in such a way!
Good luck with the NH and take care of yourselves!
Hugs from Shelagh
http://continue.to/lupus
Beverley - 07 Aug 2004 02:48 GMT
I know, I know!!!

I've got to quit or almost quit. It's one thing to work a few hours when
there is a true need but I don't need to be working the way I am.

My friend owns the school!!

OM, your ex-MIL, that is a shame. I know that is putting you in a difficult
position.
Bev

> (((( BEV))))
>
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> > think on Monday.
> > Bev
Sherry - 06 Aug 2004 21:50 GMT
Bev,
Your first consideration should be you!
Your second should be George
Your third and fourth your daughters
your 5th your grandkids

All of the above considerations deserve to have YOU think of yourself and
your health first!!!!!!

So, my suggestion would be to tell your friend that you will do what you can
do but it will not be extra hours.  You may need to cut back even tho she is
in hospital having surgery and then a replacement needs to be found for
you!!!!!  ASAP

Your boss/ friend has been added to my prayers and thoughts.

Hugs,
Sherry
Beverley - 06 Aug 2004 23:43 GMT
BP when I get in tonight was 140/92 not exactly good but could have been
worse.

I have my granddaughter who was supposed to be picked up by her dad but he's
decided to come tomorrow for her. She doesn't want to go with him so I'm not
forcing that issue. But I wasn't prepared for dinner to have her. She found
a can of soup she wanted, New England Clam Chowder. So that is what she is
eating. Her mom had made plans for this weekend and asked if I'd keep her
until her dad picked her up about 5 PM. "Sure, no problem!" LOL When will I
learn????

My DH is eating the rest of the Clam Chowder and fish sticks.

So now I'm fixing my dinner two pieces of beef strip - tough little buggers
and some salad. I wound up eating what the kids had for lunch so I am way
off for salt intake for today. I'll make bets I had 700mg of salt in one
meal!!

I hate fixing everybody something different!!
Bev

> Yep I'm in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I've figured out that
> working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP. I don't know
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> think on Monday.
> Bev
Sherry - 07 Aug 2004 02:17 GMT
Dinner at my house is fin for yourself and whatever you can find to either
cook or re-heat.  <g>  They are used to that tho!!

New England Clam Chowder sounds yummy to me.

But you still ignored everyones comments.  LOL

Hugs,
Sherry

> BP when I get in tonight was 140/92 not exactly good but could have been
> worse.
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> > think on Monday.
> > Bev
Beverley - 07 Aug 2004 02:52 GMT
No, I'm not ignoring comments. I plan to put together a very nice letter
this weekend stating that I really cannot work these long hours. And that
she need to find someplace to replace me. Obviously I am not going to give
it to her while she is in the hospital. But she's got to find someone else.
It's too much for me and obviously if I'm not up to par then the children
are not getting from me what they need from an adult.
Bev

> Dinner at my house is fin for yourself and whatever you can find to either
> cook or re-heat.  <g>  They are used to that tho!!
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> > > think on Monday.
> > > Bev
Bruce - 07 Aug 2004 15:34 GMT
> No, I'm not ignoring comments. I plan to put together a very nice letter
> this weekend stating that I really cannot work these long hours. And that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> are not getting from me what they need from an adult.
> Bev

((( BEV)))

ok , Sherry , Now that we have Bev on a letter mission  , can we get her to
deliver it ????
Bruce On. " east coast chowder , MMMMM , loved it when down there "
Beverley - 08 Aug 2004 01:49 GMT
Gee when do I give her the letter???
Let's see, I went to the hospital today to see her. She's got
diverticulitis(SP?) (caught just as it was abscessing), pneumonia, UTI, and
kidney infection. They are supposed to let her out of the hospital if all
goes well on Monday.
Bev

> > No, I'm not ignoring comments. I plan to put together a very nice letter
> > this weekend stating that I really cannot work these long hours. And that
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> deliver it ????
> Bruce On. " east coast chowder , MMMMM , loved it when down there "
janers - 08 Aug 2004 03:43 GMT
Hi Bev, sorry I am slow on this one LOL.   Haven't had time so just checked
in.

I would give her the note in a few days after she is home.  Don't want to
shock her too much.

Just go slow and it will all work out.  IF she asks why, then tell her the
truth.

HOW is the BP?

I got more pics of baby, let me know ok?
hugs
janers
Sherry - 09 Aug 2004 01:04 GMT
I sure hope so Bruce!  Our health isn't anything to play around with.
Especially when we have family that we love and care about and that love and
care about us!

Big hearts sometimes get in our way!

Hugs,
Sherry

> ok , Sherry , Now that we have Bev on a letter mission  , can we get her to
> deliver it ????
> Bruce On. " east coast chowder , MMMMM , loved it when down there "
J - 22 Aug 2004 21:59 GMT
> Yep I'm in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I've figured out that
> working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP.

Bev, are you taking a brand name (instead of generic ) BP med?
I just saw a post on the fibro newsgroup, where a poster claims it's been
documented that the generic raises her BP.
J
Beverley - 23 Aug 2004 05:19 GMT
No I'm taking the brand name stuff.

My BP skyrocketed tonight. Don't know why - maybe because I drank a couple
of cups of real coffee today instead of the decaf? Hubby took it again about
15 minutes later and it had dropped considerably. It was 150/110 and fell to
130/90. Yes, I know it was that high because my daughter walked through the
door and I had her re-take it. She left and when my husband re-took it it
had fallen. Hmmmm.

Janers keeps telling me to stop obsessing over it. Sorry, Janers, when it
goes down and stays where it belongs I'll quit obsessing. LOL

The nutritionist told me I can add a little more salt to my diet and still
be considered way below normal salt intake. It's hard to keep the salt out
of the diet. It's hiding in everything!!
Bev

> > Yep I'm in deep trouble. No rest for the weary. I've figured out that
> > working more than just a few hours a day seems to raise my BP.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> documented that the generic raises her BP.
> J
J - 23 Aug 2004 07:51 GMT
> No I'm taking the brand name stuff.

thanks

> My BP skyrocketed tonight. Don't know why - maybe because I drank a couple
> of cups of real coffee today instead of the decaf? Hubby took it again about
> 15 minutes later and it had dropped considerably. It was 150/110 and fell to
> 130/90. Yes, I know it was that high because my daughter walked through the
> door and I had her re-take it. She left and when my husband re-took it it
> had fallen. Hmmmm.

try being "laid back"
Blood pressure may rise temporarily due to exercise, excitement, anger or
anxiety making your heart beat faster.
Any one reading can be affected by temporary anxiety or excitement.
Yes, so put that BP measurer away and learn, nay, force yourself  to "wind
yourself down"
J
Beverley - 24 Aug 2004 03:21 GMT
Tonight I was helping my granddaughter move her room around. She wants a big
girl room and wanted a change. Well, where we thought we'd place the
furniture it didn't fit - I mis-calculated by about 3 inches. Big huge old
bed and big old wardrobe, etc.!!! Grrrrr!!!!!

Then I had asked my granddaughter to pull the laundry from the dryer and
hang what needed hanging, etc. But when I came down to put her sheets in the
dryer the stuff was piled on top of the dryer falling off down the back of
the machine. GRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!

Then my (at that moment not) darling hubby had something else to say about
something  and another GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And it was time to take my BP!!!!!!!!!! Oh, sure let's take it now. Is there
anything else that can go not exactly right??? Does anyone else have
anything negative they like to tell me ??? So I go sit down for my nightly
ritual of BP and "darling" hubby has something else to say. So naturally I
snap back at him while he's pumping up the darn cuff. Oh, sure let's see
what my BP is when I'm this PO'd. Why not I have a headache, I have an ear
ache, I have a tooth ache, my left shoulder is killing me, my right arm
aches because I've been painting today on a ladder with a brush high above
my head, every mosquito for miles found me today, I worked for 2.5 hours
which does nothing but mess up my day, the arches on my feet hurt and my
legs feel extra weak all probably from standing on the ladder, my back is
killing me form moving furniture, so I feel like crap and I've got a
granddaughter who seems to want without giving, a husband who has been so
tied up with a project at work that he seems to not notice anything in the
house and when he does it is to make a nasty comment???? And guess who ate
"low salt" Rice A Roni tonight with her chicken for dinner? Sure take that
BP!!!!!!!!!!!

BP was 120 over 78.  How did that happen??? I give up!!!
Bev

> > No I'm taking the brand name stuff.
>
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> yourself down"
> J
Shelagh - 24 Aug 2004 16:39 GMT
LOL Bev.... too funny?... NOT.!
But I do suggest you keep on eating that low salt rice a roni!!
;-)
Hugs from Shelagh
btw:   hope your day is tons better today! <G> couldn't be much
worse I think?!

> Tonight I was helping my granddaughter move her room around.
> She wants a big
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>> yourself down"
>> J
Beverley - 24 Aug 2004 23:20 GMT
Low salt Rice a Roni is still way too high in salt for what I am allowed.
:-(
Bev

> LOL Bev.... too funny?... NOT.!
> But I do suggest you keep on eating that low salt rice a roni!!
[quoted text clipped - 91 lines]
> >> yourself down"
> >> J
Andy - 27 Aug 2004 21:23 GMT
[
>Janers keeps telling me to stop obsessing over it. Sorry, Janers, when it
>goes down and stays where it belongs I'll quit obsessing. LOL

Don't forget the "white coat effect" - the act of taking blood pressure
(especially by a doctor in a white coat) can cause stress which raises
it.
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